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   grody: i just got the oddest, spam email ever
   <br> dont normally boter with them, but it had a .zip
   <br> inside the zip is an sqlite flat, with a HUGE list of user/pass and IP addresses
   <br> most of the IPs look like VPS/Dedi space on Amazon/OVH/Demonware etc
   <br> and alas, the senders email isn't valid
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   twobithacker: meh, it's only the FBI. It's not like the NSA is watching.
   grody: haha
   <br> my bot is called FBI too :o
   <br> tbh though, anyone who has downloaded tor is already on the NSA watchlist
   <br> aight, emailed some of these hosting companies about this email i got and one has already got back to me
   <br> sounding VERY worried
   -: grody bets it's a skiddies shell hunting expo
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   brycec: The channel bot at work is "NSA_Monitoring_Station" :D
   <br> (It replaced "FBI_Surveillance_Van")
   twobithacker: heh, NSA Monitoring Station used to be the SSID on my open guest AP
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   gooddesignusa: Hey everyone, I was thinking of getting 2 VPS's from arpnetworks and was curious if bandwidth is counted when they talk to each other since they are on the same network?
   brycec: <u>gooddesignusa</u>: Nope that would not count against bandwidth.
   <br> Bandwidth is measured at the upstream router, so only traffic to/from the Internet would count.
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   gooddesignusa: great, thanks for the quick response
   <br> I was thinking of settig up a VPS to run pfsense
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   mercutio: <u>grody</u>: i tihnk everyone is on the NSA watchlist
   <br> they watch everyone :)
   mike-burns: Only people within four hops of a suspected terrorist, as I understand it.
   brycec: ping/traceroute hops?
   <br> Because that would be a pretty wide net ;p
   mrsaint: rather NSA watching everyone even if you want to or not.
   <br> :)
   pjs: are there any internal networking issues that you all know of?
   <br> I seem to be getting lots of failures between 2 servers (comm failures) between nginx (proxy) and uwsgi (app server)
   <br> and I've never really had this happen in the past
   mercutio: comms failures?
   pjs: Sorry, like dropped connections
   <br> It could be app issues but it's across many apps so it's odd
   mercutio: you could put a ticket in
   <br> but not aware of anything breaking connections or such
   mnathani_: how do folks deal with rotating backups? For instance, I hav a cronjob that backs up all databases off to a remote server. It does this every week. I usually dont care to keep backups older than 15 weeks if I have not needed them for so long - chances are I am never going to need them. At this point I find myself deleting old backups manually every couple of months.
   pjs: mnathani_, I use this https://bitbucket.org/petersanchez/webutils/src/22c1314f5206cc309e191007d84f86199bf9f278/webutils/cleanup/?at=default
   <br> basically I create db backups every 4 hours (usually), store them on local disk and on S3.. I run that cronjob nightly to remove backups (locally and in S3) older than 7 days..
   <br> it's not a gorgeous piece of code but I wrote it years ago and it still works just fine so... *shrugs*
   <br> and I use tarsnap for system backups.. that manages everything for me
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   mnathani_: thanks pjs, had heard about tarsnap before but looking into it now again. The deduplication feature sounds really handy
   <br> what benefit would someone get by running pfsense in a VPS?
   <br> I thought it was primarily a firewall
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   mnathani_: when you tarsnap say a directory with a bunch of files in it, can you retrieve say a single file or a bunch of files, or do you have to retreive the entire tarball ?