[01:25] <mnathani_> how do I set an executable to always run as root? I vaguely remember something to do with setuid [01:49] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:51] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [06:28] <mercutio> chmod u+s [07:29] *** toeshred has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1) [07:39] *** toeshred has joined #arpnetworks [09:23] <JC_Denton> so in a ZFS vol, is raid z2 really worth it for a 4 disk array (3 TB disks)? [10:19] *** mrsaint has joined #arpnetworks [10:19] <mrsaint> ehlo [10:20] <mrsaint> I did an order this morning and no responce yet? shops closed today ? :) [10:30] *** mrsaint has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [10:31] *** mrsaint has joined #arpnetworks [10:55] <brycec> JC_Denton: really depends on how valuable that data is to you. :p I wouldn't say it's not worth it though. [10:59] <JC_Denton> brycec: why's that? [11:00] <brycec> "how valuable" == risk of losing data in this case [11:00] <brycec> If the data is rather important, sure raidz2 is worth the reduction in capacity [11:01] <brycec> There's also the zfs property "copies" which can in a sortof way mimic that duplication for certain specific data sets [11:03] <JC_Denton> i wish there were human parseable stats of how often another disk fails during resilvering [11:51] *** DaCa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:03] *** dne is now known as dne_ [12:18] *** DaCa has joined #arpnetworks [13:24] <brycec> "More often than you'd like." :P [13:25] <brycec> Personally, it's happened to me at least twice. [13:25] <brycec> And that's not counting the time that I had both disks in a RAID1 fail at the same time. [13:34] <JC_Denton> that sucks [13:35] <JC_Denton> went and restructured with a z2 [13:35] <JC_Denton> makes me feel a little better [14:26] <mercutio> you can also slice up a disk if you have some important data that isn't big, and just raid mirror across all 4 disks. [14:27] <mercutio> there doesn't seem to be much in the way of published disk failures [14:30] <mercutio> oh 3tb disks increases the number of failures, i do know that much [14:46] <JC_Denton> heh [14:46] <JC_Denton> what about 6 tb disks :P [15:18] <mrsaint> still waiting for my order. :( [15:25] <mrsaint> any op around? [15:28] <mercutio> mrsaint: orders usually happen during early evening [15:28] <mercutio> JC_Denton: 6tb are usually archive drives afaik [15:28] <mrsaint> mercutio: I order this at 1.49 PM CEST this morning and no responce other then autogenerated email :( [15:29] <JC_Denton> wd reds just released 6 tbs [15:29] <JC_Denton> huge :P [15:29] <mrsaint> Would not mind completed order soo I can fix stuff. [15:29] <mrsaint> I run hosting my self :) major one. [15:31] <mercutio> well it is weekend too [15:31] <mercutio> but i suspect it will be soon [15:31] <mercutio> JC_Denton: i am wondering what those are like [15:31] <mercutio> they did look interesting [15:31] <mercutio> i got one 5tb drive to try [15:32] <mercutio> and it was really fast but really noisy [15:32] <mercutio> (toshiba) [15:34] <mrsaint> weekend or not still its an order :) [15:35] <mrsaint> should be completed when ever possible. [15:35] <mrsaint> I hope :) [15:35] <mrsaint> want my +1 anycast node up :) [15:38] <JC_Denton> mercutio: ever try the reds? [15:39] <JC_Denton> iX systems seems to use them exclusively in their freenas systems and the red pros in their truenas systems [15:39] <mrsaint> any arpnetworks ppl around at all or just customers? [15:40] <JC_Denton> mrsaint: patience [15:41] <mrsaint> just wondering :) [15:41] <mrsaint> thinking of supporting this network with servers :) [15:41] <mrsaint> :) [15:41] <mrsaint> like I do with ircnet efnet and linknet :) [15:53] <mercutio> JC_Denton: nope [15:53] <mercutio> mrsaint: anycast can take a bit longer btw [15:53] <mercutio> well bgp can [15:54] <mrsaint> well its just bgp :) [15:54] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:54] <mrsaint> But I wouldnt mind just get the vps up. I can prepare and fix my puppet stuff.. [15:55] <mrsaint> anycasting in this way just a bgp session and my asn announce same /24 everywhere. :) [15:55] <mercutio> there's not many providers offering bgp [15:55] <mrsaint> I know sucks. I doo since 10 years offer that. :) [15:56] <mrsaint> was google like crazy today until a friend told me arpnetworks allow him to announce his /24 for his anycast stuff. [15:56] <mercutio> heh [15:56] <mrsaint> But I was expecting faster responce :( [15:56] <mercutio> heh [15:56] <mercutio> yeh i've done a bit research on the same [15:56] <mercutio> and one place didn't even list pricing [15:57] <mercutio> and e-mail them, slow response, /and/ expensive [15:57] <mrsaint> I got vmware host on colo in chicago but colo provider not allow me to do bgp :( [15:57] <mercutio> steadfast will do bgp in chicago [15:57] <mercutio> at least they were doing such [15:57] <mercutio> but they have cogent :/ [15:57] <mrsaint> I actually asked one provider today. They have 21 locations globally but minimum order was 5k/usd a month. and I thought that was abit to much just to get my 1500 doomains in a dns at a few more places. [15:58] <mercutio> yeh [15:58] <mrsaint> cogent is cheapass : ) I got dual bgp 1gb with cogent for backup. but I have my dual 10G connections for default transit :) [15:59] <mercutio> yeh but having any cogent active reduces network quality [15:59] <mrsaint> not so sure about that. It works. and it works good. But its good and cheap to have as just "backup". [15:59] <mercutio> well i suppose you could normally advertise to cogent with community to only export to customers [15:59] <mrsaint> better paths then alot of providers in eu/us. [16:00] <mercutio> yah reckon? [16:00] <mrsaint> Nah I prepend my ASN Soo I dont get any traffic via them at all :) [16:00] <mercutio> really? [16:00] <mrsaint> if not my other 3 transit connections die. [16:00] <mercutio> there used to be strange local preferencing and so on going on [16:00] <mercutio> with the whole netflix drama [16:00] <mrsaint> I have no commit I have 1 gig fiber connection and pay 0.5 euro megabit :) [16:01] <mercutio> i think at&t were forcing traffic down cogent? [16:01] <mercutio> cool [16:01] <mrsaint> at&t sucks my big hairy balls for all I care. :) [16:01] <mrsaint> I work with volvo IT and At&t sucks. [16:01] <mrsaint> :( [16:02] <mercutio> well at&t don't peer etc [16:02] <mrsaint> takes me 4 weeks to get them to allow us announce one more prefix :) something that takes any other operator less then 24h to fix. [16:02] <mrsaint> in filters. if any. [16:02] <mercutio> do they require LOA? [16:03] <mrsaint> whats that? They require change management and 3.5 week delivery :9 [16:04] <mercutio> it's some validation thing that you have authority to advertise the IP [16:04] <mercutio> most providers don't do it [16:04] <mrsaint> yeah sure. I dont care. its a good thing like eu has ripe and RIR. [16:05] <mrsaint> but still. You dont allow normally a customer to announce to your own network anything else then what belong to that customer. :) In some way you can have a lookup done and decide. [16:05] <mercutio> yeh [16:05] <mercutio> a lot of people just do casual checking [16:05] <mrsaint> thats just stupid. :) [16:05] <mrsaint> but I dislike US. [16:05] <mrsaint> :) Im sorry but way behind eu in fiber and connectivity [16:06] <mercutio> RPKI has made close to zero progress etc. [16:06] <mercutio> i'm not in EU or US myself. [16:07] <mercutio> i'm not quite sure how we sit for connectivity [16:07] <mercutio> probably worse than US or EU :) [16:07] <mrsaint> hehe :) if u need any vps in eu let me know :) [16:08] <mrsaint> I got hosting in london amsterdam frankfurt and stockholm x 2 :) [16:08] <mrsaint> vps takes me 10min to get up :) [16:10] <mercutio> i wouldn't mind a vps in EU actually [16:11] <mercutio> i have bad vps's in EU :/ [16:11] <mercutio> i have a bad one in london [16:11] <mercutio> is your london hosting on linx? [16:12] <mrsaint> I have good connection [16:12] <mrsaint> mercutio: in lon whatever you want Im on vmware :) [16:13] <mrsaint> 8xgig connection to box :) [16:14] <mrsaint> in lon ams fra :) [16:14] <mrsaint> 10g in sto x 2 [16:16] <mercutio> haha [16:16] <mercutio> why do you have 8x1? [16:16] <mercutio> is it to different providers? [16:16] <mercutio> i just run smokeping from different locations for measuring [16:17] <mrsaint> why not :) [16:17] <mercutio> but UK host keeps having downtime, it's own issues etc. [16:17] <mrsaint> I dont like 10g nics that dont fit :) [16:17] <mrsaint> I havent had one 1 hour of downtime last 5 years. [16:17] <mercutio> i've got a friend who used to live in the UK, and they had terrible internet there. [16:17] <mercutio> like adsl 1 :/ [16:17] <mrsaint> I do consult for a company with services that has 99.99998% SLA on uptime. I try to keep the same my self. [16:19] <mrsaint> ive been on irc since 93 but never thought about having a supportchannel somewhere. Maybe its time. [16:20] <mrsaint> Even if the crew does seem to be offline here atm [16:20] <mrsaint> :) [16:20] <mrsaint> a msg on irc pings in my mobile currently soo :) im always around. [16:25] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [16:25] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [16:25] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [16:53] <mrsaint> skid barnes noooz gocart + bowla fre 25e då? [16:54] <mrsaint> bokar event med 4 man gocart 18 på fre 25e [16:58] <m0unds> heh [16:59] <mrsaint> såå bpåååkat [17:00] <mrsaint> såå skid o barnes har inge att smita från de måste köra gocart på fredag :) [17:00] <mrsaint> nån mer som e sugen o rejsa mot skid säg till. :) Han behöver nå utmanare annars vinner han? rasm? [17:00] <BryceBot> That's what she said!! [17:01] <mrsaint> sorry wrong chan :) [17:52] <mrsaint> no ops yet? [18:00] <RandalSchwartz> you expect *what* on a weekend? :) [18:00] <mrsaint> If I get an order I answer when I check mails Usually every hour :) [18:01] <RandalSchwartz> my experience is that it's more of an 18 to 24 hour cycle here. [18:01] <RandalSchwartz> since we're mostly supposed to be self-sufficient. [18:02] <mrsaint> yeah sure we in eu do expect more :) [18:02] <RandalSchwartz> Uh - there are ISPs that charge more and you get faster service [18:02] <RandalSchwartz> if you want that, the door is that way --> [18:03] <mrsaint> yeah but i want my door to be this way [18:03] <mrsaint> <--- [18:03] <RandalSchwartz> so ... be prepared to wait. [18:03] <RandalSchwartz> it's how they keep the costs down [18:03] <mkb> you realize it's the weekend too [18:04] <mkb> you're probably not getting anything until monday [18:04] <mrsaint> cant wait I got time now for fix. not tomorrow :) Im oncall I need to work :) [18:04] <RandalSchwartz> again - you are choosing the wrong ISP then [18:04] <RandalSchwartz> if you want a machine in 55 seconds, go to digitalocean.com [18:04] <mrsaint> hmm email say within 24h soo I wait until 1pm and I will nag :) [18:05] <RandalSchwartz> yeah, as I said, typically 18-24 hours. [18:05] <mrsaint> I dont want to buy from digitalocean I did consulting for them :) [18:05] <RandalSchwartz> nagging never helps, by the way. [18:05] <RandalSchwartz> what did you do for them? [18:06] <mrsaint> firrwalls :) [18:06] <RandalSchwartz> if only they provided a ZFS-on-root solution for FreeBSD, I might recommend them higher. [18:06] <RandalSchwartz> fur-walls? [18:06] <mrsaint> fbsd is old :) [18:07] <RandalSchwartz> indeed. and therefore proven. [18:07] <mrsaint> but I like it and i do have couple 1000s fbsd vpses. [18:07] <RandalSchwartz> I have a DO box to do poudriere builds for my ARP box. [18:08] <RandalSchwartz> builds a lot faster on SSD> [18:08] <mrsaint> can have fbsd ssd disk box at my place np :) [18:08] <mrsaint> I have a couple gaming sites run their servers at me and its fun :) [18:09] <mrsaint> but they run behind my cdn to make it faster :) [18:09] <RandalSchwartz> I'm so amazed at how poudriere has made my life simpler [18:10] <RandalSchwartz> no more "portmaster build hell" where I get halfway through and then it fails because of incompatible switches. [18:10] <mrsaint> hihi [18:11] <RandalSchwartz> and then many of my services are broken until I sort that out [18:11] <RandalSchwartz> usually 2-3 hours later [18:11] <RandalSchwartz> if poudriere can build it, they can all get installed together. [18:15] <mrsaint> if you want vps anywhere in Eu. London amsterdam frankfurt or stockholm it takes me 5 min to fix [18:17] <mrsaint> Welcome to DigitalOcean! [18:17] <mrsaint> Before we take your payment information, we’d like to verify we have the correct email address for your account. We’ve sent you an email with instructions. [18:17] <mrsaint> fuckers dont send the email :) [18:18] <mercutio> heh [18:18] <mrsaint> how difficult can it be to get an VPS in United states of americas :) [18:18] <mercutio> peoplei find using DO usually compare it to amazon [18:19] <mrsaint> amazon sucks great hairy balls :) [18:19] <mercutio> yeh the "cheap" amazon has very restrictive iops limits or something [18:19] <mercutio> it throttles hard [18:19] <mrsaint> yeah I need to setup 2500 servers in amazon by end of this year :) Sucks. [18:20] <mercutio> why not just run your own cluster with that number? [18:20] <mercutio> i can understand when you want to run a few servers wanting to use external parties [18:20] <mrsaint> coz volvo whould not buy from a consultant :) [18:20] <mercutio> oh right [18:21] <mrsaint> they want to buy from a global tier 1 op [18:21] <mercutio> microsoft? [18:21] <mrsaint> amazon in this case. but we put winblows in MS cloud :) [18:22] <mercutio> i just thought microsoft may be better than amazon [18:22] <mercutio> for someone huge and expensive and slow [18:22] <mrsaint> hhaha they want me to add credit card before i can do shit. Brbr [18:32] <RandalSchwartz> "they" [18:34] <mrsaint> I create server with my ssh key not work on root. [18:34] <mrsaint> hmm [18:37] <mrsaint> Password Reset is processing... [18:37] <mrsaint> i wonder what the password will be [18:37] <mrsaint> :) [18:38] <mrsaint> as the sshkey defrault that I add doesnt tel what login its added to : COuld be root [18:40] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:43] <mrsaint> hurms [18:47] <mrsaint> anyone know digitalocean default login user ? if not root ? [19:03] <RandalSchwartz> depends on the image type [19:03] <RandalSchwartz> for freebsd, it's not root. [19:03] <RandalSchwartz> something like freebsduser [19:04] <RandalSchwartz> ahh... FreeBSD [19:04] <RandalSchwartz> no... lowercase [19:04] <RandalSchwartz> so you need to login ssh freebsd@YouRBoxName [19:05] <RandalSchwartz> Luckily, that user has password-less sudo [19:35] <mrsaint> i chooose centos 6.7 [19:37] <RandalSchwartz> not my OS. No idea. [19:37] <RandalSchwartz> you and your pretend-unix OS! [19:37] <mrsaint> I add sshkey but still never say what to login with [19:38] <RandalSchwartz> I'm sure it said... maybe you ignored that. [19:47] <mrsaint> mikael@atlantis:~$ ssh root@45.55.231.143 [19:47] <mrsaint> Last login: Sat Sep 19 22:43:20 2015 from atlantis.glassbilen.net [19:47] <mrsaint> [root@dns-anycast-1 ~]# [19:47] <mrsaint> sucess [19:47] <mrsaint> :) [19:47] <mrsaint> more vodka for me :) [19:49] *** mrsaint_ has joined #arpnetworks [19:49] *** mrsaint_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:51] *** mikael has joined #arpnetworks [19:53] <mrsaint> not even ptr records :) [19:55] *** mikael has quit IRC (Client Quit)