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| mnathani_ | how do I set an executable to always run as root? I vaguely remember something to do with setuid | [01:25] |
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| mercutio | chmod u+s | [06:28] |
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| JC_Denton | so in a ZFS vol, is raid z2 really worth it for a 4 disk array (3 TB disks)? | [09:23] |
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| mrsaint | ehlo
I did an order this morning and no responce yet? shops closed today ? :) | [10:19] |
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| brycec | JC_Denton: really depends on how valuable that data is to you. :p I wouldn't say it's not worth it though. | [10:55] |
| JC_Denton | brycec: why's that? | [10:59] |
| brycec | "how valuable" == risk of losing data in this case
If the data is rather important, sure raidz2 is worth the reduction in capacity There's also the zfs property "copies" which can in a sortof way mimic that duplication for certain specific data sets | [11:00] |
| JC_Denton | i wish there were human parseable stats of how often another disk fails during resilvering | [11:03] |
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| brycec | "More often than you'd like." :P
Personally, it's happened to me at least twice. And that's not counting the time that I had both disks in a RAID1 fail at the same time. | [13:24] |
| JC_Denton | that sucks
went and restructured with a z2 makes me feel a little better | [13:34] |
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| mercutio | you can also slice up a disk if you have some important data that isn't big, and just raid mirror across all 4 disks.
there doesn't seem to be much in the way of published disk failures oh 3tb disks increases the number of failures, i do know that much | [14:26] |
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| JC_Denton | heh
what about 6 tb disks :P | [14:46] |
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| mrsaint | still waiting for my order. :( | [15:18] |
| any op around? | [15:25] | |
| mercutio | mrsaint: orders usually happen during early evening
JC_Denton: 6tb are usually archive drives afaik | [15:28] |
| mrsaint | mercutio: I order this at 1.49 PM CEST this morning and no responce other then autogenerated email :( | [15:28] |
| JC_Denton | wd reds just released 6 tbs
huge :P | [15:29] |
| mrsaint | Would not mind completed order soo I can fix stuff.
I run hosting my self :) major one. | [15:29] |
| mercutio | well it is weekend too
but i suspect it will be soon JC_Denton: i am wondering what those are like they did look interesting i got one 5tb drive to try and it was really fast but really noisy (toshiba) | [15:31] |
| mrsaint | weekend or not still its an order :)
should be completed when ever possible. I hope :) want my +1 anycast node up :) | [15:34] |
| JC_Denton | mercutio: ever try the reds?
iX systems seems to use them exclusively in their freenas systems and the red pros in their truenas systems | [15:38] |
| mrsaint | any arpnetworks ppl around at all or just customers? | [15:39] |
| JC_Denton | mrsaint: patience | [15:40] |
| mrsaint | just wondering :)
thinking of supporting this network with servers :) :) like I do with ircnet efnet and linknet :) | [15:41] |
| mercutio | JC_Denton: nope
mrsaint: anycast can take a bit longer btw well bgp can | [15:53] |
| mrsaint | well its just bgp :) | [15:54] |
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| mrsaint | But I wouldnt mind just get the vps up. I can prepare and fix my puppet stuff..
anycasting in this way just a bgp session and my asn announce same /24 everywhere. :) | [15:54] |
| mercutio | there's not many providers offering bgp | [15:55] |
| mrsaint | I know sucks. I doo since 10 years offer that. :)
was google like crazy today until a friend told me arpnetworks allow him to announce his /24 for his anycast stuff. | [15:55] |
| mercutio | heh | [15:56] |
| mrsaint | But I was expecting faster responce :( | [15:56] |
| mercutio | heh
yeh i've done a bit research on the same and one place didn't even list pricing and e-mail them, slow response, /and/ expensive | [15:56] |
| mrsaint | I got vmware host on colo in chicago but colo provider not allow me to do bgp :( | [15:57] |
| mercutio | steadfast will do bgp in chicago
at least they were doing such but they have cogent :/ | [15:57] |
| mrsaint | I actually asked one provider today. They have 21 locations globally but minimum order was 5k/usd a month. and I thought that was abit to much just to get my 1500 doomains in a dns at a few more places. | [15:57] |
| mercutio | yeh | [15:58] |
| mrsaint | cogent is cheapass : ) I got dual bgp 1gb with cogent for backup. but I have my dual 10G connections for default transit :) | [15:58] |
| mercutio | yeh but having any cogent active reduces network quality | [15:59] |
| mrsaint | not so sure about that. It works. and it works good. But its good and cheap to have as just "backup". | [15:59] |
| mercutio | well i suppose you could normally advertise to cogent with community to only export to customers | [15:59] |
| mrsaint | better paths then alot of providers in eu/us. | [15:59] |
| mercutio | yah reckon? | [16:00] |
| mrsaint | Nah I prepend my ASN Soo I dont get any traffic via them at all :) | [16:00] |
| mercutio | really? | [16:00] |
| mrsaint | if not my other 3 transit connections die. | [16:00] |
| mercutio | there used to be strange local preferencing and so on going on
with the whole netflix drama | [16:00] |
| mrsaint | I have no commit I have 1 gig fiber connection and pay 0.5 euro megabit :) | [16:00] |
| mercutio | i think at&t were forcing traffic down cogent?
cool | [16:01] |
| mrsaint | at&t sucks my big hairy balls for all I care. :)
I work with volvo IT and At&t sucks. :( | [16:01] |
| mercutio | well at&t don't peer etc | [16:02] |
| mrsaint | takes me 4 weeks to get them to allow us announce one more prefix :) something that takes any other operator less then 24h to fix.
in filters. if any. | [16:02] |
| mercutio | do they require LOA? | [16:02] |
| mrsaint | whats that? They require change management and 3.5 week delivery :9 | [16:03] |
| mercutio | it's some validation thing that you have authority to advertise the IP
most providers don't do it | [16:04] |
| mrsaint | yeah sure. I dont care. its a good thing like eu has ripe and RIR.
but still. You dont allow normally a customer to announce to your own network anything else then what belong to that customer. :) In some way you can have a lookup done and decide. | [16:04] |
| mercutio | yeh
a lot of people just do casual checking | [16:05] |
| mrsaint | thats just stupid. :)
but I dislike US. :) Im sorry but way behind eu in fiber and connectivity | [16:05] |
| mercutio | RPKI has made close to zero progress etc.
i'm not in EU or US myself. i'm not quite sure how we sit for connectivity probably worse than US or EU :) | [16:06] |
| mrsaint | hehe :) if u need any vps in eu let me know :)
I got hosting in london amsterdam frankfurt and stockholm x 2 :) vps takes me 10min to get up :) | [16:07] |
| mercutio | i wouldn't mind a vps in EU actually
i have bad vps's in EU :/ i have a bad one in london is your london hosting on linx? | [16:10] |
| mrsaint | I have good connection
mercutio: in lon whatever you want Im on vmware :) 8xgig connection to box :) in lon ams fra :) 10g in sto x 2 | [16:12] |
| mercutio | haha
why do you have 8x1? is it to different providers? i just run smokeping from different locations for measuring | [16:16] |
| mrsaint | why not :) | [16:17] |
| mercutio | but UK host keeps having downtime, it's own issues etc. | [16:17] |
| mrsaint | I dont like 10g nics that dont fit :)
I havent had one 1 hour of downtime last 5 years. | [16:17] |
| mercutio | i've got a friend who used to live in the UK, and they had terrible internet there.
like adsl 1 :/ | [16:17] |
| mrsaint | I do consult for a company with services that has 99.99998% SLA on uptime. I try to keep the same my self.
ive been on irc since 93 but never thought about having a supportchannel somewhere. Maybe its time. Even if the crew does seem to be offline here atm :) a msg on irc pings in my mobile currently soo :) im always around. | [16:17] |
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| mrsaint | skid barnes noooz gocart + bowla fre 25e då?
bokar event med 4 man gocart 18 på fre 25e | [16:53] |
| m0unds | heh | [16:58] |
| mrsaint | såå bpåååkat
såå skid o barnes har inge att smita från de måste köra gocart på fredag :) nån mer som e sugen o rejsa mot skid säg till. :) Han behöver nå utmanare annars vinner han? rasm? | [16:59] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [17:00] |
| mrsaint | sorry wrong chan :) | [17:01] |
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| no ops yet? | [17:52] | |
| RandalSchwartz | you expect *what* on a weekend? :) | [18:00] |
| mrsaint | If I get an order I answer when I check mails Usually every hour :) | [18:00] |
| RandalSchwartz | my experience is that it's more of an 18 to 24 hour cycle here.
since we're mostly supposed to be self-sufficient. | [18:01] |
| mrsaint | yeah sure we in eu do expect more :) | [18:02] |
| RandalSchwartz | Uh - there are ISPs that charge more and you get faster service
if you want that, the door is that way --> | [18:02] |
| mrsaint | yeah but i want my door to be this way
<--- | [18:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | so ... be prepared to wait.
it's how they keep the costs down | [18:03] |
| mkb | you realize it's the weekend too
you're probably not getting anything until monday | [18:03] |
| mrsaint | cant wait I got time now for fix. not tomorrow :) Im oncall I need to work :) | [18:04] |
| RandalSchwartz | again - you are choosing the wrong ISP then
if you want a machine in 55 seconds, go to digitalocean.com | [18:04] |
| mrsaint | hmm email say within 24h soo I wait until 1pm and I will nag :) | [18:04] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah, as I said, typically 18-24 hours. | [18:05] |
| mrsaint | I dont want to buy from digitalocean I did consulting for them :) | [18:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | nagging never helps, by the way.
what did you do for them? | [18:05] |
| mrsaint | firrwalls :) | [18:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | if only they provided a ZFS-on-root solution for FreeBSD, I might recommend them higher.
fur-walls? | [18:06] |
| mrsaint | fbsd is old :) | [18:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | indeed. and therefore proven. | [18:07] |
| mrsaint | but I like it and i do have couple 1000s fbsd vpses. | [18:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | I have a DO box to do poudriere builds for my ARP box.
builds a lot faster on SSD> | [18:07] |
| mrsaint | can have fbsd ssd disk box at my place np :)
I have a couple gaming sites run their servers at me and its fun :) but they run behind my cdn to make it faster :) | [18:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm so amazed at how poudriere has made my life simpler
no more "portmaster build hell" where I get halfway through and then it fails because of incompatible switches. | [18:09] |
| mrsaint | hihi | [18:10] |
| RandalSchwartz | and then many of my services are broken until I sort that out
usually 2-3 hours later if poudriere can build it, they can all get installed together. | [18:11] |
| mrsaint | if you want vps anywhere in Eu. London amsterdam frankfurt or stockholm it takes me 5 min to fix
Welcome to DigitalOcean! Before we take your payment information, we’d like to verify we have the correct email address for your account. We’ve sent you an email with instructions. fuckers dont send the email :) | [18:15] |
| mercutio | heh | [18:18] |
| mrsaint | how difficult can it be to get an VPS in United states of americas :) | [18:18] |
| mercutio | peoplei find using DO usually compare it to amazon | [18:18] |
| mrsaint | amazon sucks great hairy balls :) | [18:19] |
| mercutio | yeh the "cheap" amazon has very restrictive iops limits or something
it throttles hard | [18:19] |
| mrsaint | yeah I need to setup 2500 servers in amazon by end of this year :) Sucks. | [18:19] |
| mercutio | why not just run your own cluster with that number?
i can understand when you want to run a few servers wanting to use external parties | [18:20] |
| mrsaint | coz volvo whould not buy from a consultant :) | [18:20] |
| mercutio | oh right | [18:20] |
| mrsaint | they want to buy from a global tier 1 op | [18:21] |
| mercutio | microsoft? | [18:21] |
| mrsaint | amazon in this case. but we put winblows in MS cloud :) | [18:21] |
| mercutio | i just thought microsoft may be better than amazon
for someone huge and expensive and slow | [18:22] |
| mrsaint | hhaha they want me to add credit card before i can do shit. Brbr | [18:22] |
| RandalSchwartz | "they" | [18:32] |
| mrsaint | I create server with my ssh key not work on root.
hmm Password Reset is processing... i wonder what the password will be :) as the sshkey defrault that I add doesnt tel what login its added to : COuld be root | [18:34] |
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| mrsaint | hurms
anyone know digitalocean default login user ? if not root ? | [18:43] |
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| RandalSchwartz | depends on the image type
for freebsd, it's not root. something like freebsduser ahh... FreeBSD no... lowercase so you need to login ssh freebsd@YouRBoxName Luckily, that user has password-less sudo | [19:03] |
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| mrsaint | i chooose centos 6.7 | [19:35] |
| RandalSchwartz | not my OS. No idea.
you and your pretend-unix OS! | [19:37] |
| mrsaint | I add sshkey but still never say what to login with | [19:37] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm sure it said... maybe you ignored that. | [19:38] |
| mrsaint | mikael@atlantis:~$ ssh root@45.55.231.143
Last login: Sat Sep 19 22:43:20 2015 from atlantis.glassbilen.net [root@dns-anycast-1 ~]# sucess :) more vodka for me :) | [19:47] |
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| mrsaint | not even ptr records :) | [19:53] |
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