#arpnetworks 2015-09-15,Tue

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up_the_ironsconsidering replacing my HTC One m7 (original Google Play edition) with either a Samsung Note 4, or 5, or the Galaxy S6. Anyone swear by (or hate) either of these? [02:23]
plettup_the_irons: I'm waiting to see what the specs and cost Nexus 5X are going to be. The rumours say that it will be announced in about two weeks time. [02:29]
up_the_ironsplett: ah interesting [02:30]
plettI've currently got a Nexus 4 from 2012 but it's starting to be a bit flaky, and rumours are that Android M will only be backported to the Nexus 5, leaving the Nexus 4 stranded on it's current software [02:34]
up_the_ironsah [02:35]
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mnathaniup_the_irons: The Notes are pretty larget phones, phablets I think they call them. The S6 is more usable in my opinion [13:29]
brycecbrycec dislikes Samsung phones, specifically their version of Android and how locked-down things are. [13:33]
up_the_ironsi just root them [13:40]
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brycecI was under the uninformed impression that most Samsungs don't root or don't stock ROM or both [14:03]
m0undsi have a note5, it's fine, but i don't expect to ever be able to root it
only root thing i did on my oneplus one was to tune multitasking using an app called recently
camera is pretty decent on the note, white balance blows in lower light but it's good otherwis
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up_the_ironsI was liking the Note 5 at the store
my brother roots everything. he has 3 phones. he's been able to root every Samsung device he cared to own.
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m0undsare you on at&t or vzw?
if not, you might be able to manage it - on at&t and vzw due to payment stuff, if you trip knox on it it will render it unbootable
allegedly
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up_the_ironsm0unds: neither, I'm on pTel (t-mobile underneath) [15:37]
m0undsah, ok - tmo device though? or do they have their own branded version? [15:38]
up_the_ironsm0unds: no, i've gone with Google Edition phones for like the last 5 years. So they're all unlocked, pure android, no carrier crap. [15:42]
m0undsright, but i'm talking about the note thing
because there is no google edition note
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up_the_ironsoh right, but there's factory unlocked onmes
*ones
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mercutioit's a bit annoying how samsung don't do updates for new androids much. [15:57]
m0undsright, but they're only SIM unlocked
nah, they do
i've gotten two OTAs in three weeks
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mercutiowith notes you have less rom choice becuase of stylus
you kind of want samsung's bloatware, but with a fast recent note you should be fine.
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up_the_ironsm0unds: ah ok [15:57]
m0undsbut new nexuseseses later this year - one LG and one Huawei [15:57]
up_the_ironsm0unds: i was going to say, i'd probably stay with stock samsung for the note [15:58]
m0undsah, ok
i used to despise samsung's ui stuff, but it's really not too bad on the 5
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up_the_ironsthat's what i've been hearing, same on the s6 [15:58]
m0undsi like stock android a lot better, just because i think the UX is more polished and snazzier [15:58]
up_the_ironsyeah [15:58]
m0undsbut touchwiz isn't as awful as it used to be
and you can theme it, so i have a free material design dark theme on mine
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mercutioi haven't rooted either my phone or tablet.
i always used to root
even with bloatware things tend to be a bit better these days
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m0undsi only did it w/my opo because the task management in lollipop was annoying - i really didn't need to see tasks from the last 5 days [15:59]
mercutioit is annoying actually [16:00]
m0undsso i used an app called "recently" that let you adjust how much stuff showed up, how many search instances, etc
but it required root
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mercutioi like that i can use flashlight easilywith android 5, really the only great benefit i've had [16:00]
m0undsi'm finding that the note5 doesn't seem to hang on to as many recent tasks though, so it's not as annoying [16:00]
mercutiohow's note5 better than note4? [16:00]
m0undsincrementally better hardware, significantly better build
better display
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mercutioi was considering getting a note 4, but it was cheaper to get note 10.1 2014 and normal phone [16:01]
m0undsin terms of color accuracy and stuff
aesthetically, it's a lot nicer (but i don't see mine because it's in a big-ass otterbox case)
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mercutioahh, i found the note4's sceren looked great [16:01]
m0undsthe camera is really, really good aside from flaky white balance in low light (which you can fix using pro mode) [16:01]
up_the_ironsMakes me wanna get the 5 now... One thing that kinda threw me off was no SD card slot or replaceable battery. *Now*, I don't have those things in my current HTC One _either_, but still, seems kinda nice to have. I have hit my 32GB storage barrier once. [16:03]
mercutiosd card readers are cheap [16:04]
m0undshttps://goo.gl/photos/1jXD3pimCi1PQVY2A [16:04]
BryceBothttps://goo.gl/photos/1jXD3pimCi1PQVY2A -> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMmlZsGBOix51A_ZS1oVApTJwDntYIvJmzirSZfsRtYsgIdOMHJ4Y_GD1U0NBCtVA?key=QlAyTmZoUklibFdLV3F4aV9QVTU0N0doNGxjWHpR [16:04]
mercutiooh microsd :) [16:04]
up_the_ironsmercutio: yeah but who wants to have to carry one? [16:04]
m0undsi bit the bullet and went 64GB on mine, since i had 64GB in the opo [16:04]
mercutioup_the_irons: i dunno, i don't want tos tore stuff on my phone at all
but it has sdcard in it
because it was easy/cheap
i use less than 8gb on all my devices pretty much
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up_the_ironsmercutio: i have lots of videos and podcasts. maybe i should delete some... [16:05]
mercutioup_the_irons: just store them somewhere else?
actually if you have lots of old videos and podcasts you can always stick them on a 2.5" external hard-disk
with a usb otg adapter
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m0undsi've got a month's worth of joe rogan and bill burr and a couple others [16:06]
mercutiothen you can plugin to laptop/phone/etc as you like [16:06]
m0undsi had to make my podcast app purge older ones because i kept forgetting to [16:06]
up_the_ironsotg adapter? [16:06]
m0undsoh yeah, forgot about those
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-5in-Micro-Host-Adapter/dp/B00B4GGW5Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1442358297&sr=8-2&keywords=usb+otg
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BryceBotAmazon: "StarTech.com 5in Micro USB to USB OTG Host Adapter - Micro USB Male to USB A Female On-The-GO Host Cable Adapter" [16:07]
mercutioup_the_irons: means you can plug normal usb devices into phone
they're like $2 on ebay
my phone takes ages to read in my 2.5" hard-disk
but it does work
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up_the_ironsah cool [16:09]
mercutioit doesn't work on all devices
but they're cheap enough you can just try it
like my phone works with standard os, with mouse and keyboard, and hard-disk
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brycecAnd remember that they draw from the phone's battery ;) [16:11]
mercutioyeah
i have one cable that lets you plugin charger at the asme time
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brycecnice! [16:12]
up_the_ironsman that seems like a lot of stuff to carry around ;) [16:12]
mercutioheh
having a mechanical 10keyless keyboard on phone with utg was fun
terminal worked a lot easier :)
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m0undshaha [16:14]
mercutioyeah it looked funny
but it worked ok
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mnathaniSorry, the last notification we sent listed the incorrect reverse DNS address. Please note that all hard-coded references to *.reverse.softlayer.com will need to be updated to *.sl-reverse.com or a custom URL scheme of your own. We apologize for the confusion. The rest of the information from the previous email is still relevant: [17:54]
up_the_ironsman, took them a while... [17:59]
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mercutiodid someone register it? [18:12]
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m0undsthe "corrected" domain registration predated their notification, so i just assume they screwed up [19:25]
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m0undscan't get over how good the sound is in forza 6 [20:54]
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