#arpnetworks 2015-09-08,Tue

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grodygrody needs a new job
again
mercutio, sorry - got caught up with stuff and cant scroll back enough.. last i see is you're still being curious about the dedi question
i think he found something in the end
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mercutiocool
i didn't realise just how many bad options there were :)
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grodyhe moved out to Aus and wanted something reliable [17:40]
mercutioahh [17:40]
grodywhy do some employers assume because you can master their billing/order system, you must be a guru [17:41]
mercutioaustralia has better data centre selection than new zealand [17:41]
grodyaye, i think cost was an issue too :P [17:41]
mercutiothat brings down cost.
colo prices are high here
even before bandwidth etc.
hardware is a bit expensive too
but it's the colo prices that make everything kind of insane
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grodyoh wait, Auckland
not Aus
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mercutioyeah i'm in auckland not australia
did you think i was in australia
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grodynah i knew you were NZ
why i asked
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mercutioyeah
rendrag may do dedicated in australia
if the guy is still looking
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grodythink he found something eventually
appears to be routing via vocus
i suspect thats Aus though
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mercutiovocus eww :/
is it via japan for you?
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mercutioserversaustralia do vocus i think [17:50]
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grodyNYC, ASH, LAX, lax.ca, sydney [17:51]
mercutioheh tracing to rendrag's domain routes via vocus [17:51]
grodyyea, it terminates in Aus
hah
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mercutioit's like 320 msec via US both directions, and 360+ routing via asia [17:51]
grodylax.ca & sjc.ca
305 for me
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mercutioyeh the other direction may go via asia if it's high ping [17:52]
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mercutioyeah that's probably US direct.
and the cheaper cables.
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mercutiosomehow i'm getting 255 msec ping to uk now [17:52]
grodyi bet it's not that bad from ARP..
was doing it from UK
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mercutioyeah cut 160 off it probably
maybe 140
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grodycrap.. jail isn't allowing raw sockets, or bloody --udp
what the hell!
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mercutioheh
security?
udp is curious though
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grodydefault setting [17:54]
mercutioping is kind of insecure [17:54]
grodyaye, wont allow creating non TCP/UDP (even icmp as 'root'
i can change it, thought i had
yea, ICMP is kinda funny for trojans etc.
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grodyalways makes me paranoid, especially since i generally allow inbound pings [17:56]
mercutiowell it's more that every process has to listen for icmp at once
so you get everyone elses responses and decide which ones you want
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mercutiohmm serversaustralia isn't cheap either [18:03]
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gizmoguyunder my desk is free if you want to colo stuff near AU
got pretty good Vocus peering
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brycecWow, so generous! [18:25]
gizmoguyyeah and I only cost a beer a week! [18:26]
brycecI thought you said "free" ;P [18:27]
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mercutioheh
an ipa beer a week?
so how big is your desk gizmo :)
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gizmoguyit's quite large
well so large I have 2 desks in my office
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mercutioheh
http://bulletin.brynmawr.edu/files/2011/05/682px-VAX-11-750.jpg
send him something like taht :/
i can't find anything large on trademe :/
did find this cheap though http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/servers/servers/auction-943118844.htm
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gizmoguyI have two super-ancient Compaq blade chassis I could haul in here and host a VPS service on
p3 800mhz CPUs
12 blades per machine
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mercutiohaha [19:04]
gizmoguyany buyers? [19:04]
mercutioyour poor ears [19:04]
brycecWHAAAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU, mercutio [19:05]
gizmoguyI have headphones [19:06]
mercutioheh
do you have gigabit internet?
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gizmoguyyip [19:07]
mercutiomaybe you should start hosting then :) [19:07]
gizmoguyI have 10gig too [19:07]
mercutiocool
can you do 10 gigabit to the US?
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gizmoguyfor selected routes [19:08]
mercutiointernet2 routes? [19:08]
gizmoguyyeah [19:08]
brycecHow's powe?
*power?
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mercutioprobably better than power at my home :/
mercutio had a power cut last month
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gizmoguyruns straight to a substation [19:09]
mercutiothey're what go wrong! [19:09]
brycecI was getting at backup battery/generator, not amount of power available [19:09]
gizmoguywe've had a few micro-blips recently though
car smashed into a powerpole which took out 4 streets
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mercutiothat's pretty impressive [19:10]
gizmoguyand that meant the substation dropped a few cycles for whatever reason [19:10]
mercutiohere it'd take out multiple suburbs :) [19:10]
gizmoguyWEL networks have a pretty good setup
I don't understand their setup but it works
the 4 streets weren't next to each other
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mercutioyeah it's kind of disturbing when you realise the substation is 10+km away
and that everywhere between you and there is out
not that i ever had high expectations for auckland power :)
with led lights you can't see blips right?
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brycecDepends. But LED lights are already blipping because they're driven by PWM
(well, they're modulated by PWM)
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mercutioahh i haven't noticed [19:14]
brycecExactly [19:14]
mercutiosome monitors pwm is quite noticable [19:14]
brycecYou're not supposed to notice ;P [19:14]
mercutioespecially when you dim then
them
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fluterhello [21:32]
brycecHello [21:32]
gizmoguyhello
my name is too long :(
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brycecgizmoguy: You just need a better IRC client - weechat lines up all messages (rather than by nick) [21:33]
gizmoguy:O
I have been considering switching away from irssi for a while now...
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brycecNo better reason than "it makes you look fat" :) [21:34]
mercutiodid you register gizmoguy yet? [21:41]
gizmoguyI think I did [21:42]
mercutiocool
i wonder how many less ddos's efnet would have had if they had services
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