[01:52] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [01:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [14:49] *** gizmoguy_ is now known as gizmoguy [17:37] * grody needs a new job [17:37] again [17:38] mercutio, sorry - got caught up with stuff and cant scroll back enough.. last i see is you're still being curious about the dedi question [17:38] i think he found something in the end [17:38] cool [17:39] i didn't realise just how many bad options there were :) [17:40] he moved out to Aus and wanted something reliable [17:40] ahh [17:41] why do some employers assume because you can master their billing/order system, you must be a guru [17:41] australia has better data centre selection than new zealand [17:41] aye, i think cost was an issue too :P [17:42] that brings down cost. [17:42] colo prices are high here [17:42] even before bandwidth etc. [17:43] hardware is a bit expensive too [17:43] but it's the colo prices that make everything kind of insane [17:43] oh wait, Auckland [17:43] not Aus [17:43] yeah i'm in auckland not australia [17:43] did you think i was in australia [17:43] nah i knew you were NZ [17:43] why i asked [17:43] yeah [17:44] rendrag may do dedicated in australia [17:44] if the guy is still looking [17:46] think he found something eventually [17:47] appears to be routing via vocus [17:47] i suspect thats Aus though [17:49] vocus eww :/ [17:50] is it via japan for you? [17:50] *** nesta has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:50] *** nesta has joined #arpnetworks [17:50] serversaustralia do vocus i think [17:50] *** rendrag has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:51] NYC, ASH, LAX, lax.ca, sydney [17:51] heh tracing to rendrag's domain routes via vocus [17:51] yea, it terminates in Aus [17:51] hah [17:51] *** neish has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:51] it's like 320 msec via US both directions, and 360+ routing via asia [17:52] lax.ca & sjc.ca [17:52] 305 for me [17:52] yeh the other direction may go via asia if it's high ping [17:52] *** jbergstroem has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:52] yeah that's probably US direct. [17:52] and the cheaper cables. [17:52] *** plett has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:52] somehow i'm getting 255 msec ping to uk now [17:52] i bet it's not that bad from ARP.. [17:52] was doing it from UK [17:53] yeah cut 160 off it probably [17:53] maybe 140 [17:53] *** KDE_Perry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:53] *** plett has joined #arpnetworks [17:54] crap.. jail isn't allowing raw sockets, or bloody --udp [17:54] what the hell! [17:54] heh [17:54] security? [17:54] udp is curious though [17:54] default setting [17:54] ping is kind of insecure [17:55] aye, wont allow creating non TCP/UDP (even icmp as 'root' [17:55] i can change it, thought i had [17:55] yea, ICMP is kinda funny for trojans etc. [17:56] *** jbergstroem has joined #arpnetworks [17:56] always makes me paranoid, especially since i generally allow inbound pings [17:56] well it's more that every process has to listen for icmp at once [17:57] so you get everyone elses responses and decide which ones you want [17:57] *** KDE_Perry has joined #arpnetworks [17:58] *** neish has joined #arpnetworks [18:03] hmm serversaustralia isn't cheap either [18:25] under my desk is free if you want to colo stuff near AU [18:25] got pretty good Vocus peering [18:25] Wow, so generous! [18:26] yeah and I only cost a beer a week! [18:27] I thought you said "free" ;P [18:55] heh [18:55] an ipa beer a week? [18:55] so how big is your desk gizmo :) [18:56] it's quite large [18:56] well so large I have 2 desks in my office [18:56] heh [18:56] http://bulletin.brynmawr.edu/files/2011/05/682px-VAX-11-750.jpg [18:57] send him something like taht :/ [19:00] i can't find anything large on trademe :/ [19:01] did find this cheap though http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/servers/servers/auction-943118844.htm [19:04] I have two super-ancient Compaq blade chassis I could haul in here and host a VPS service on [19:04] p3 800mhz CPUs [19:04] 12 blades per machine [19:04] haha [19:04] any buyers? [19:04] your poor ears [19:05] WHAAAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU, mercutio [19:06] I have headphones [19:06] heh [19:07] do you have gigabit internet? [19:07] yip [19:07] maybe you should start hosting then :) [19:07] I have 10gig too [19:07] cool [19:08] can you do 10 gigabit to the US? [19:08] for selected routes [19:08] internet2 routes? [19:08] yeah [19:08] How's powe? [19:08] *power? [19:09] probably better than power at my home :/ [19:09] * mercutio had a power cut last month [19:09] runs straight to a substation [19:09] they're what go wrong! [19:09] I was getting at backup battery/generator, not amount of power available [19:09] we've had a few micro-blips recently though [19:09] car smashed into a powerpole which took out 4 streets [19:10] that's pretty impressive [19:10] and that meant the substation dropped a few cycles for whatever reason [19:10] here it'd take out multiple suburbs :) [19:10] WEL networks have a pretty good setup [19:10] I don't understand their setup but it works [19:10] the 4 streets weren't next to each other [19:10] yeah it's kind of disturbing when you realise the substation is 10+km away [19:10] and that everywhere between you and there is out [19:11] not that i ever had high expectations for auckland power :) [19:13] with led lights you can't see blips right? [19:14] Depends. But LED lights are already blipping because they're driven by PWM [19:14] (well, they're modulated by PWM) [19:14] ahh i haven't noticed [19:14] Exactly [19:14] some monitors pwm is quite noticable [19:14] You're not supposed to notice ;P [19:15] especially when you dim then [19:15] them [19:47] *** rendrag has joined #arpnetworks [21:28] *** X-Scale has joined #arpnetworks [21:29] *** X-Scale has left [21:32] *** fluter has joined #arpnetworks [21:32] hello [21:32] Hello [21:33] hello [21:33] my name is too long :( [21:33] gizmoguy: You just need a better IRC client - weechat lines up all messages (rather than by nick) [21:34] :O [21:34] I have been considering switching away from irssi for a while now... [21:34] No better reason than "it makes you look fat" :) [21:41] did you register gizmoguy yet? [21:42] I think I did [21:42] cool [21:42] i wonder how many less ddos's efnet would have had if they had services