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-: grody needs a new job
grody: again
mercutio, sorry - got caught up with stuff and cant scroll back enough.. last i see is you're still being curious about the dedi question
i think he found something in the end
mercutio: cool
i didn't realise just how many bad options there were :)
grody: he moved out to Aus and wanted something reliable
mercutio: ahh
grody: why do some employers assume because you can master their billing/order system, you must be a guru
mercutio: australia has better data centre selection than new zealand
grody: aye, i think cost was an issue too :P
mercutio: that brings down cost.
colo prices are high here
even before bandwidth etc.
hardware is a bit expensive too
but it's the colo prices that make everything kind of insane
grody: oh wait, Auckland
not Aus
mercutio: yeah i'm in auckland not australia
did you think i was in australia
grody: nah i knew you were NZ
why i asked
mercutio: yeah
rendrag may do dedicated in australia
if the guy is still looking
grody: think he found something eventually
appears to be routing via vocus
i suspect thats Aus though
mercutio: vocus eww :/
is it via japan for you?
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mercutio: serversaustralia do vocus i think
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grody: NYC, ASH, LAX, lax.ca, sydney
mercutio: heh tracing to rendrag's domain routes via vocus
grody: yea, it terminates in Aus
hah
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mercutio: it's like 320 msec via US both directions, and 360+ routing via asia
grody: lax.ca & sjc.ca
305 for me
mercutio: yeh the other direction may go via asia if it's high ping
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mercutio: yeah that's probably US direct.
and the cheaper cables.
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mercutio: somehow i'm getting 255 msec ping to uk now
grody: i bet it's not that bad from ARP..
was doing it from UK
mercutio: yeah cut 160 off it probably
maybe 140
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grody: crap.. jail isn't allowing raw sockets, or bloody --udp
what the hell!
mercutio: heh
security?
udp is curious though
grody: default setting
mercutio: ping is kind of insecure
grody: aye, wont allow creating non TCP/UDP (even icmp as 'root'
i can change it, thought i had
yea, ICMP is kinda funny for trojans etc.
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grody: always makes me paranoid, especially since i generally allow inbound pings
mercutio: well it's more that every process has to listen for icmp at once
so you get everyone elses responses and decide which ones you want
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mercutio: hmm serversaustralia isn't cheap either
gizmoguy: under my desk is free if you want to colo stuff near AU
got pretty good Vocus peering
brycec: Wow, so generous!
gizmoguy: yeah and I only cost a beer a week!
brycec: I thought you said "free" ;P
mercutio: heh
an ipa beer a week?
so how big is your desk gizmo :)
gizmoguy: it's quite large
well so large I have 2 desks in my office
mercutio: heh
http://bulletin.brynmawr.edu/files/2011/05/682px-VAX-11-750.jpg
send him something like taht :/
i can't find anything large on trademe :/
did find this cheap though http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/servers/servers/auction-943118844.htm
gizmoguy: I have two super-ancient Compaq blade chassis I could haul in here and host a VPS service on
p3 800mhz CPUs
12 blades per machine
mercutio: haha
gizmoguy: any buyers?
mercutio: your poor ears
brycec: WHAAAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU, mercutio
gizmoguy: I have headphones
mercutio: heh
do you have gigabit internet?
gizmoguy: yip
mercutio: maybe you should start hosting then :)
gizmoguy: I have 10gig too
mercutio: cool
can you do 10 gigabit to the US?
gizmoguy: for selected routes
mercutio: internet2 routes?
gizmoguy: yeah
brycec: How's powe?
*power?
mercutio: probably better than power at my home :/
-: mercutio had a power cut last month
gizmoguy: runs straight to a substation
mercutio: they're what go wrong!
brycec: I was getting at backup battery/generator, not amount of power available
gizmoguy: we've had a few micro-blips recently though
car smashed into a powerpole which took out 4 streets
mercutio: that's pretty impressive
gizmoguy: and that meant the substation dropped a few cycles for whatever reason
mercutio: here it'd take out multiple suburbs :)
gizmoguy: WEL networks have a pretty good setup
I don't understand their setup but it works
the 4 streets weren't next to each other
mercutio: yeah it's kind of disturbing when you realise the substation is 10+km away
and that everywhere between you and there is out
not that i ever had high expectations for auckland power :)
with led lights you can't see blips right?
brycec: Depends. But LED lights are already blipping because they're driven by PWM
(well, they're modulated by PWM)
mercutio: ahh i haven't noticed
brycec: Exactly
mercutio: some monitors pwm is quite noticable
brycec: You're not supposed to notice ;P
mercutio: especially when you dim then
them
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fluter: hello
brycec: Hello
gizmoguy: hello
my name is too long :(
brycec: gizmoguy: You just need a better IRC client - weechat lines up all messages (rather than by nick)
gizmoguy: :O
I have been considering switching away from irssi for a while now...
brycec: No better reason than "it makes you look fat" :)
mercutio: did you register gizmoguy yet?
gizmoguy: I think I did
mercutio: cool
i wonder how many less ddos's efnet would have had if they had services