mercutio, i suspect thats what it is
less loss / jitter
have a clean, straight route to ARP
I used to care about that stuff a lot more.
It gets OCD'ish though.
Now I've widened my tolerance.
it only niggled me as i wanted to play some old irc buddies on tekken
grody: do you ssh remotely?
yea
like a long distance
try out my ssh in-band latency test :)
https://weallsee.net/cl
hmm
oh and cloudflare's performance is starting to erk me :)
or cl.c for source
that's 64 bit linux binary
longest SSH is me to here, here to Aus
thats painful
do it on a medium one :)
Yeah, UK from NZ can be painful
And Australia is slightly further away than NZ from UK
like being on ssh on 28k
and im torrenting too
28.8k i lower latency.
is
do you have a close box to ssh to
you can do dbclient user@host1,user@host2
helps a lot
so if you have loss between host1 and you it can resend over closer hop
or loss between host1/host2
oh wow
well worth trying to AU
it does a tcp port bounce
dynamic ssh pipes
so it's secure
ie you don't have to ssh from host1, and expose your key
i think ssh -A is insecure (slightly)
i'm not sure
i want to figure that out
i wonder if in 50 years, lag will be a thing of the past
nope
speed of light and all that
especially if quantum entanglement shows up promise
UK <-> NZ is always going to suck
but
there are ways to make lag not so bad.
aye, but we could send data directly through earth, instead of up, down, up down, across
which is what i'm interested in in a way
that's very very complicated
atm
i don't think it's likely to happen anytime soon
there's also microwave to reduce latency too
which is likely to start happening in parallel more i suspect
i'd like inner city latency to decrease myself
err  i mean i wnat pings of < 1 msec instead of < 2 msec to neighbours etc.
UKs inter-links to each other are most of the time pretty good
i don't think local peering is good
it's a complicated problem though
usually connections are terminated far away
and even on gpon connections latency is often 1 msec
so 1 msec + 1 msec for neighbour, plus if they're on different isp
then the link between the two
within the same city you may get 2.5 msec
well.. i had a home @ office link on the same FTTC cab, however, they both had to go uptoward london and back before seeing each other
BT do allow a GEA access, where peering can be done on the same cab
yeah that's what i mean
it doesn't necessarily peer locally
so if my office and home were on the sae cab, they could peer directly via the cab and not over the internet
people are stil;l used to aggregating circuits remotely etc
but again latency mitigation makes it matter much less
mm
cifs sucks with latency
like even 20 msec latency can hurt quite bad
and 20 msec is what 1500 miles?
maybe 3000 miles
i dunno
anyway
atm if you can keep latency under 20 msec things are pretty good
but really 60 msec should be able to work good too
my friend down the road who i lan party with sometimes, we get 19-25 ms to each other
down the road and 19-25msec?
but with 16ms auto added from PPP - thats pretty impressive
see that's not ideal
yeah it's more like 10 msec here
5 msec latency with vdsl
8 for me :(
yeah
but i usually get 9/10 to 8.8.8.8 etc
but the US latency hurts more
i get 4.6 msec to dns
but google is in diff country
so it's like 30 msec
well, you have more people and more space to cover
29.3 to 8.8.8.8
ouch
it's not that bad really
that's 2155 km
or someting
this is why i hate 3G - latency is almost always 60ms+
(auckland to sydney)
HSPA/4G/LTE, i've seen them as low as 15 mind
8.8.8.8 in sydney gives terrible performance though
DNS lookups on latency really kills a browsing experience
yeah 3g latency sucks
yeh i used proxy when i did it regularly
and did initcwnd
with the 10 packets
helped a lot
but 3g sucks for other reasons too
liek if you're downloading your latency will go sky high
and the connection becomes useless for anything else
hah yea
but as long as you don't download it's ok
think i use an L2TP from my HSPA access point
http://imgur.com/fV972aK  thats a mixed graph for an example - first chunk is good signal, but transferring (downlading arch via torrent), middle is idle whilst walking around town and latter is idle with strong signal
been using my ISPs wonderful graphing to prove to my mobile carrier their data network is shot to sh1t
(those graphs are excellent examples of how it /should/ be)
they probably don't care :)
i dunno why arch encourages torrents
i reckon http with close mirrors is good
lol they don't - but i've had 3 months free service and had them taken to their ombudsman, got another month free (by their request) and £35 compo
i like torrents *shrug*
 wow
least if the download breaks, it automatically resumes when network is back
that so wouldn't happen here
same with wget -c
:P
UK is very strict on how companies must treat their customers and have to live up to standards
fail, they have to pay
i was honestly hoping for a recinded contract - but will wait for the free months to end and drop the priceplan to bare minimum, they buy out
go back to a better network
awwyeah
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/jeb-bush-crypto-makes-it-harder-for-the-american-government-to-do-its-job/
Ars Technica: "Jeb Bush wants “a new arrangement with Silicon Valley” to ease crypto"
I really can't see that working out well :)