kellytk: I made the purchase, so I'll share my experience in a month or so when I've got some use out of it
mnathani_: kellytk: how much was it and was it a wildcard cert?
be sure to test your site once the cert has been installed: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html
kellytk: It was ~$3 for the first year. Thank you for the link mnathani_
Would it be appropriate to use DNS for pointing foo.net to foo.com?
The alternative is an HTTP redirect
mercutio: kellytk: try h2o web server
it's got http/2 support
kellytk: I'm familiar with nginx, however h20 is quite interesting. I read your discussion about it the other night. Have you tried it yet mercutio?
mercutio: yes.
kellytk: Initial impressions?
mercutio: http/2 isn't really any faster than http
slightly slower even :/
but it's http performance is nice, and http/2 is fine speed
kellytk: That didn't surprise me unfortunately
mercutio: i don't use ssl normally.
but usually https is a bit slower than http
kellytk: It'll be interesting to find out if this CA offers h2o support
mercutio: CA?
kellytk: PositiveSSL
mercutio: you just use your normal cert
they're all the same :/
kellytk: I was looking at the set up page, and it offered a drop down with various webservers in it. Do you know what was being communicated with that?
mercutio: yeah it's just whether it has separate file for chain etc
just stick the chain file in the same file as the cert, and stick the key in separate file and you're sweet
there's no ubuntu package yet though :(
kellytk: http://www.freshports.org/www/h2o/
What's most attractive to me about h2o is that it's suitable as a static library, which will come in handy even if I don't run it on the server
mercutio: http://www.it-wars.com/web-performance-H2O-vs-nginx/
It's too bad there isn't a freenode channel for it
& https://calomel.org/h2o.html
Built-in support for libressl which I like
mercutio: Are you familiar with http://cherokee-project.com/ and https://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/?
mercutio: nope
kellytk: Interesting as well
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grody: 5.0.x is poor for battery, 5.1.x is considerably better - but kitkat had the best life on the same device
i still prefer my gingerbread phone.. it's the only one that doesn't bugger up all of the time
4 days battery life, a week if i dont get too many calls or texts
zte blade ii - the nokia 1100 of smartphones
mercutio: there's nokia 3310s on ebay for $25 US incl shipping
free intl shipping
they're from china
grody: only problem i have with this zte in fact, it's wireless is bg
and i disabled legacy a while ago - had to run a seperate AP for it (use it as a VoIP phone)
5 years ive had that thing.. not a single bloody issue (other than now very few google apps run on it)
Keyyo still works thank goodness
3310s, they the ones with the zapper on the top?
ahh no, the next one up from the 5110
those things could manage a 10 min call when the battery has been bleeping feed me for hours
mercutio: my phone got down to 11% charge today
i think i'm more concerned about my battery running flat than i used to be, and it's easier for it to get flast
i kind of wish they'd just shift to two batteries
so you can charge one battery and use the other
and have hot swappable or something
grody: carry a battery pack with you
i play Ingress an awful lot and can get about 3/4 hours of constant use before charge
phone will normally live about 2 days from normal use
well, a day and a half at a push to be totally honest
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12000mAh-Portable-External-Power-Bank-USB-Pack-Battery-Charger-For-IPhone-Mobile-/191306698835?hash=item2c8ac49053
missus and i got one of they each
benefit of 1A and 2A output
kellytk: Can anyone recommend a good quality small UPS to keep a Mac mini running for long enough to gracefully shut down?
-: grody uses a small 150W inverter and 15A/hr lead acid battery
grody: but i do have a couple of APC BE400's that are good for low power/gracefuls
quite cheap too
plett: grody: I have an Orange San Francisco branded ZTE Blade (not a II). It's my backup phone now and gets good battery life: https://www.flickr.com/photos/plett/8397524721/
grody: plett, yea, you can softmod them to the gen2
one i have :)
ahh, blade I gen1 and gen2 sorry, not blade ii
plett: Ahh, yes. Mine is already a gen2 blade I
grody: (it /slightly/ improves wifi reliability)
plett: With the OLED screen
grody: nice
i also have the zte kis3 - nice also, but those blades are pure awesome
gotta ♥ these budget consumer companies - for the price you sure get your moneys worth
oh ffs - im starting to hate my card company now
yet again blocking overseas transactions
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mercutio: Netsplits for all.
brycec: Well, not all. Just 4 people it looks like
0 in another 100+ user channel for that matter :P
mercutio: yaeh actually some of these were more than once
it was a "whole page" to me
brycec: it's a big wall of text, but it spans 11 hours. Just been a quiet day in #arpnetworks
m0unds: SHHHH
brycec: m0unds: MERCUTIO STARTED IT
m0unds: DON'T MAKE ME SIT YOU IN A CORNER, brycec
brycec: but... I'm already sitting in a corner
m0unds: GOOD
still smoky up there?
brycec: Yup, though it just looks white/hazy.
mercutio: i'm only just starting to realise how bad china's air pollution is
i thought it was just "pretty bad"
but it sounds like it's really really really extreme
like significant amounts of death from it etc
m0unds: yeah, it can kill people
brycec: It's mind boggling
mercutio: and there i go being irate when the neighbours fireplace makes outside smell smokey.
m0unds: haha
mercutio: at least you won't get smoke year around i suppose
my last city was more polluted, and i notice the difference here.
but to really notice you have to leave the source... for contrast.
brycec: https://www.facebook.com/KXLY4News/photos/a.239235182765429.59897.237861902902757/976811552341118/?type=1
mercutio: if you're in it, it'll just seem normal
-: brycec coughs a bit
brycec: Having lived in Phoenix, Arizona, and been to Los Angeles many times, the smog is very noticeable.'
m0unds: yuck
yeah, LA's is pretty wacky
mercutio: LA is worse?
m0unds: LA has lots more vehicles and people
mercutio: ahh
here winter's way way worse than summer
a lot of pollution comes from fire places...
m0unds: according to der wikipedia, LA metro has 13 million people and PHX has 4.4m
mercutio: and so LA having warm weather i figure that wouldn't be the case.
m0unds: isn't LA metro area huge though?
m0unds: sure is
mercutio: still 13 million people is a lot
and high amount of car ownership
actually yeah, main roads can have more pollution too
m0unds: i kind of wonder what they're considering the phx metro
mercutio: it depends how far it goes.
m0unds: because it says the city itself is 1341.48km2
brycec: mercutio: LA is nowhere near as bad as what I've seen from China. But it is pretty bad.
m0unds: but they say the metro is 37,725km2
mercutio: averages can be hard to get realistic pollution numbers from too
m0unds: i know it sprawls a bit, but that seems goofy
haha
brycec: m0unds: I know what they're saying is metro, but I can't really put it into words :P But there are maps.
mercutio: like industrial areas tend to have higher pollution, but as long as you don't live by them..
brycec: PHX is *big*
m0unds: yeah, i know
been there lots, it's sprawly as hell
-: brycec lived there lots, agrees and confirms
mercutio: hmm urban area here is only 559.2 km2
37,725km2 seems a hell of al ot
they don't list metro area
they do list metro polution, but i live within urban boundaries anyway.
m0unds: lol, okay i see why it's so big
just found a breakdown of what constitutes the metro
oh, can't forget top-of-the-world, arizona
mercutio: hmm phoenix doesn't list urban area
brycec: m0unds: link for the class?
mercutio: but even the city area is bigger than urban area here by far :/
m0unds: ah crap, hang on
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=phoenix%2C+az+metro+area guess it helps if i hit enter
the "cities" part includes 51 distinct towns and cities that make up the metro area
mercutio: wikipedia suggested that phoenix was made up of heaps of mini village / towns
m0unds: it's including stuff 75mi away within the metro, which seems odd
yeah, it is
mercutio: well you both know the place and i don't
but does it have a central city type area too?
brycec: it's all city
just mile after mile of it
mercutio: oh
brycec: Like LA.
mercutio: yeh i never been there
it's always around one wilshire on tv :/
i just noticed it one day haha
but it always seems to be that general area
brycec: This is what I'd consider to be the Phoenix area http://www.phxazpools.com/wp-content/uploads/phoenix-az-pools-about-us-page-phoenix-metro-service-area.jpg sadly, no scale on that
Maybe http://85251scottsdale.com/images/Scottsdale%20metroMap.jpg is helpful
m0unds: yeah, that's what i would have thought - they're including stuff way off in each direction per census.gov stuff
it's strange
brycec: http://northphoenixazhomes.com/images/phoenix-metro-zipcode-zones-map-small.jpg is a bit cluttered but that's basically the metro area, and has a tiny scale
-: brycec stops wasting time
m0unds: http://www.maps4u.com/
brycec: 4me?
m0unds: lol
i saw it said "wide world of maps" on that northphxazhomes thing
that was the first link when i searched for it, haha
-: brycec is actually familiar with that map shop
m0unds: dat SEO
brycec: They did all the maps for Pizza Huts in AZ
m0unds: their old site with only partial functionality is referenced before their store stie
site
brycec: For the delivery drivers, there's a big map on the wall showing the delivery area, streets, etc
m0unds: ah
worked at pizza hut for 3 months in high school
guessi should go finish up in the garage
brycec: Yes you should. Soon enough, Phoenix will be knocking at your door!
http://www.arizona-leisure.com/gfx/maps/valley-sun-map-760.gif is the best map I've seen for the metro area, showing cities and scales.
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m0unds: phoenix can have gallup and grants, nm if they want it
mercutio: google are doing a new router with gentoo linux
wtf
OnHub often updates its router software with newly released features without interrupting your connection.
so the google stack probably sucks. but the hardware should be able to be repurposed
it has 6x2.4ghz + 6x5ghz attennas, plus an aux
err antenna
m0unds: hw oem is tp-link
mercutio: that's fine by me
tp-links mostly have software issues these days
they use cheap power supplies, but you can always find replacements
it's atheros switch chip
so probably atheros wireless
which seems fine
(says qca, but that's qualcomm atheros, i still consider it atheros, with some branding stuck on top)
m0unds: right
mercutio: will have to see if you can root them when they come out i suppose
brycec: Ew, nobody wants Gallup. 16:59:07 m0unds | phoenix can have gallup and grants, nm if they want it
fwiw, I haven't found an authoritative source on their use of Gentoo
Just some Phoronix post without any references.
mercutio: ahh yeh phoronix was my source
brycec: Consider everything you've ever said now discredited :P
mercutio: well at least it has nand
brycec: And NOR.
:P
As a side note, OnHub is using the same SOC as the Netgear R7500.
mercutio: ahh is the 7500 good?
i'd like faster cpus in routers
so that they can do gigabit easily with tcp interception
brycec: (I have no idea, already closed the tab :P)
gizmoguy: 802.15.4 in a home router. me want
mercutio: hardware nat shouldn't be necessary for gigabit
brycec: gizmoguy: there are already home routers with Zigbee in them :P
gizmoguy: but why not
brycec: go on?
brycec: @google Almond+
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brycec: ^ My 802.11AC AP
gizmoguy: that's more expensive than the OnHub
brycec: On the other hand, it exists :P
gizmoguy: true
brycec: And has for a little while now
gizmoguy: really I should probably just add an 802.15.4 radio to my rasp pi
brycec: (Though I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for most.)
@google raspbee
gizmoguy: but linux 802.15.4 support isn't flash :(
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brycec: :D
gizmoguy: at work we're using TI CC2538s
with a custom stack on top for doing low power 802.15.4
m0unds: brycec: damn it. i was hopeful maybe people from AZ were unaware of how bad it is
brycec: m0unds: Driven through it ;)
m0unds: hahah
that's all it takes
brycec: Exactly.
m0unds: at least grants has caves and lava tubes
brycec: FYI, $1 (first year) .xyz domains https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/gtld/xyz.aspx
mercutio: abc.xyz is taken already though
no good domain names left
brycec: As is uvw.xyz
I grabbed brycec.xyz
because why nto
*not
And because I already have brycec.ninja (for $1)
m0unds: yer a ninja
mercutio: do you guys remember whwen there was that "rock star sysadmin" thing going around
as if people working IT didn't generally have big egos
gizmoguy: i am a rock*. plz pay me
m0unds: no
brycec: Hm. Haven't had slow DNS propagation in aaages...
mercutio: maybe it was rock star programmers.
gizmoguy: brogrammers
mercutio: haha
i still find it weird when you have some programmer that's really hard to work with in programming, but fine socially
brycec: (That took like 20 minutes! #FirstWorldProblems)
mercutio: programming brings out so many quirks/ideologies
brycec: yeh i usually only see slow dns if shifting authorative name servers
some people still set dns records to 86400 for domain names
but most people seem to go with 3600/10800
brycec: I know I do. but if I'm moving, I'll drop it all to 300 or similar a week before :P
mercutio: and non-significant amounts go for shorter.
gizmoguy: set ur ttls to 0
mercutio: brycec: if i'm shifting i'll set it to 30 or 60 :)
gizmoguy: what does that do?
gizmoguy: that's what a rockstar sysadmin would do
no caching
mercutio: i doubt it'd do no caching
might make some things cache it forever :)
gizmoguy: shall we try it
brycec: mercutio: depends if I have to work through someone's GUI :P (what the minimum TTL I can set is)
mercutio: brycec: yeah cloudflare don't go lower than 1800 i think
m0unds: cloudflare doesn't let you set ttls do they?
mercutio: oh
brycec: But this is specifically registration of a domain, not moving. So I have/had to way for *.nic.xyz to receive brycec.xyz
m0unds: i thought they defaulted to 5 mins or something
mercutio: maybe auto sets it to 180
err 1800
m0unds: 5 minutes sounds preferable :)
that's 30 minutes
gizmoguy: dig notcached.wand.nz +short
mercutio: it looks up in 0 msec
err 4 msec
gizmoguy: i'm awtching tcpdump to see how many queries I get
this is difficult
mercutio: i'll tcpdump my out
yip nothing going out
so dnsmasq is caching it
oh hangon
i was missing a d
gizmoguy: unbound seems to cache it too
mercutio: i get 5 minute ttl
linode
tut tut
ns2.wand.net.nz is on linode
ok cloudflare lets you set 2 minutes for ttl
gizmoguy: tut tut?
mercutio: well it's at fremont he.net
which is kind of unstable
m0unds: oh, only if you don't use their cdn
if you're just using them for dns you can configure ttl
mercutio: m0unds: i'm using their cdn i just have other records too
i have test.weallsee.net
m0unds: right, i meant per-record
if i try to set the ttl for a record on the cdn, it says it's managed by them
mercutio: oh right yeeah
m0unds: if i set it on a record that isn't on cdn (mx or whatever) it lets me
mercutio: i see 5 minutes normally
cloudflare's ui has changed
m0unds: yea, that's what i got when i queried
gizmoguy: mercutio: it's just a linode VM
mercutio: gizmoguy: did that sdn switch get enough funding?
gizmoguy: yip
i've got one on the way
mercutio: sweet
m0unds: which one was it?
mercutio: m0unds: 100 megabit
m0unds: which sdn switch, sorry
mfgr or project or whatever
mercutio: some cheap one, gizmo probably has link around
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/northboundnetworks/zodiac-fx-the-worlds-smallest-openflow-sdn-switch
was it this one?
google found it
wow it was close
it's the 100 megabit thing that irks me most
m0unds: neat
mercutio: but with successful 100 megabit maybe they'll do gigabit
gizmoguy: he has plans for a gig model
brycec: Yep, it's covered by the FAQ. tl;dr keeping it cheap.
mercutio: i wonder if this 2.5 gigabit ethernet has made any progress yet
1.9 gbit 802.11ac is probably close to gigabit's limit
can probably max out gigabit ethernet actually if it's decent
damnit, 1.9 is hard to search for with will all these broadcom routers that do 600 megabit 2.4
up_the_irons: anyone have experience with these data centers in Frankfurt: Telehouse, Zenium, Interxion
mercutio: woot :)
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1160068
maybe information on there
although people seem to be recommending hetzner on there
and one guy suggests first-colo