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kellytk | Can anyone recommend PositiveSSL? | [00:22] |
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I made the purchase, so I'll share my experience in a month or so when I've got some use out of it | [00:59] | |
mnathani_ | kellytk: how much was it and was it a wildcard cert?
be sure to test your site once the cert has been installed: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html | [01:13] |
kellytk | It was ~$3 for the first year. Thank you for the link mnathani_ | [01:16] |
Would it be appropriate to use DNS for pointing foo.net to foo.com?
The alternative is an HTTP redirect | [01:26] | |
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mercutio | kellytk: try h2o web server
it's got http/2 support | [02:00] |
kellytk | I'm familiar with nginx, however h20 is quite interesting. I read your discussion about it the other night. Have you tried it yet mercutio? | [02:01] |
mercutio | yes. | [02:04] |
kellytk | Initial impressions? | [02:04] |
mercutio | http/2 isn't really any faster than http
slightly slower even :/ but it's http performance is nice, and http/2 is fine speed | [02:04] |
kellytk | That didn't surprise me unfortunately | [02:04] |
mercutio | i don't use ssl normally.
but usually https is a bit slower than http | [02:04] |
kellytk | It'll be interesting to find out if this CA offers h2o support | [02:05] |
mercutio | CA? | [02:05] |
kellytk | PositiveSSL | [02:05] |
mercutio | you just use your normal cert
they're all the same :/ | [02:05] |
kellytk | I was looking at the set up page, and it offered a drop down with various webservers in it. Do you know what was being communicated with that? | [02:05] |
mercutio | yeah it's just whether it has separate file for chain etc
just stick the chain file in the same file as the cert, and stick the key in separate file and you're sweet there's no ubuntu package yet though :( | [02:06] |
kellytk | http://www.freshports.org/www/h2o/
What's most attractive to me about h2o is that it's suitable as a static library, which will come in handy even if I don't run it on the server | [02:08] |
mercutio: http://www.it-wars.com/web-performance-H2O-vs-nginx/
It's too bad there isn't a freenode channel for it & https://calomel.org/h2o.html Built-in support for libressl which I like mercutio: Are you familiar with http://cherokee-project.com/ and https://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/? | [02:13] | |
mercutio | nope | [02:20] |
kellytk | Interesting as well | [02:23] |
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grody | 5.0.x is poor for battery, 5.1.x is considerably better - but kitkat had the best life on the same device
i still prefer my gingerbread phone.. it's the only one that doesn't bugger up all of the time 4 days battery life, a week if i dont get too many calls or texts zte blade ii - the nokia 1100 of smartphones | [02:34] |
mercutio | there's nokia 3310s on ebay for $25 US incl shipping
free intl shipping they're from china | [02:38] |
grody | only problem i have with this zte in fact, it's wireless is bg
and i disabled legacy a while ago - had to run a seperate AP for it (use it as a VoIP phone) 5 years ive had that thing.. not a single bloody issue (other than now very few google apps run on it) Keyyo still works thank goodness 3310s, they the ones with the zapper on the top? ahh no, the next one up from the 5110 those things could manage a 10 min call when the battery has been bleeping feed me for hours | [02:40] |
mercutio | my phone got down to 11% charge today
i think i'm more concerned about my battery running flat than i used to be, and it's easier for it to get flast i kind of wish they'd just shift to two batteries so you can charge one battery and use the other and have hot swappable or something | [02:47] |
grody | carry a battery pack with you
i play Ingress an awful lot and can get about 3/4 hours of constant use before charge phone will normally live about 2 days from normal use well, a day and a half at a push to be totally honest http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12000mAh-Portable-External-Power-Bank-USB-Pack-Battery-Charger-For-IPhone-Mobile-/191306698835?hash=item2c8ac49053 missus and i got one of they each benefit of 1A and 2A output | [02:49] |
kellytk | Can anyone recommend a good quality small UPS to keep a Mac mini running for long enough to gracefully shut down? | [02:52] |
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grody | grody uses a small 150W inverter and 15A/hr lead acid battery
but i do have a couple of APC BE400's that are good for low power/gracefuls quite cheap too | [03:44] |
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plett | grody: I have an Orange San Francisco branded ZTE Blade (not a II). It's my backup phone now and gets good battery life: https://www.flickr.com/photos/plett/8397524721/ | [04:14] |
grody | plett, yea, you can softmod them to the gen2
one i have :) ahh, blade I gen1 and gen2 sorry, not blade ii | [04:18] |
plett | Ahh, yes. Mine is already a gen2 blade I | [04:18] |
grody | (it /slightly/ improves wifi reliability) | [04:19] |
plett | With the OLED screen | [04:19] |
grody | nice
i also have the zte kis3 - nice also, but those blades are pure awesome gotta ♥ these budget consumer companies - for the price you sure get your moneys worth | [04:19] |
oh ffs - im starting to hate my card company now
yet again blocking overseas transactions | [04:25] | |
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mercutio | Netsplits for all. | [15:50] |
brycec | Well, not all. Just 4 people it looks like
0 in another 100+ user channel for that matter :P | [15:58] |
mercutio | yaeh actually some of these were more than once
it was a "whole page" to me | [15:59] |
brycec | it's a big wall of text, but it spans 11 hours. Just been a quiet day in #arpnetworks | [16:05] |
m0unds | SHHHH | [16:09] |
brycec | m0unds: MERCUTIO STARTED IT | [16:12] |
m0unds | DON'T MAKE ME SIT YOU IN A CORNER, brycec | [16:13] |
brycec | but... I'm already sitting in a corner | [16:13] |
m0unds | GOOD
still smoky up there? | [16:13] |
brycec | Yup, though it just looks white/hazy. | [16:14] |
mercutio | i'm only just starting to realise how bad china's air pollution is
i thought it was just "pretty bad" but it sounds like it's really really really extreme like significant amounts of death from it etc | [16:14] |
m0unds | yeah, it can kill people | [16:15] |
brycec | It's mind boggling | [16:15] |
mercutio | and there i go being irate when the neighbours fireplace makes outside smell smokey. | [16:15] |
m0unds | haha | [16:16] |
mercutio | at least you won't get smoke year around i suppose
my last city was more polluted, and i notice the difference here. but to really notice you have to leave the source... for contrast. | [16:16] |
brycec | https://www.facebook.com/KXLY4News/photos/a.239235182765429.59897.237861902902757/976811552341118/?type=1 | [16:17] |
mercutio | if you're in it, it'll just seem normal | [16:17] |
brycec | brycec coughs a bit
Having lived in Phoenix, Arizona, and been to Los Angeles many times, the smog is very noticeable.' | [16:17] |
m0unds | yuck
yeah, LA's is pretty wacky | [16:17] |
mercutio | LA is worse? | [16:18] |
m0unds | LA has lots more vehicles and people | [16:18] |
mercutio | ahh
here winter's way way worse than summer a lot of pollution comes from fire places... | [16:18] |
m0unds | according to der wikipedia, LA metro has 13 million people and PHX has 4.4m | [16:19] |
mercutio | and so LA having warm weather i figure that wouldn't be the case.
m0unds: isn't LA metro area huge though? | [16:19] |
m0unds | sure is | [16:19] |
mercutio | still 13 million people is a lot
and high amount of car ownership actually yeah, main roads can have more pollution too | [16:19] |
m0unds | i kind of wonder what they're considering the phx metro | [16:20] |
mercutio | it depends how far it goes. | [16:20] |
m0unds | because it says the city itself is 1341.48km2 | [16:21] |
brycec | mercutio: LA is nowhere near as bad as what I've seen from China. But it is pretty bad. | [16:21] |
m0unds | but they say the metro is 37,725km2 | [16:21] |
mercutio | averages can be hard to get realistic pollution numbers from too | [16:21] |
m0unds | i know it sprawls a bit, but that seems goofy
haha | [16:21] |
brycec | m0unds: I know what they're saying is metro, but I can't really put it into words :P But there are maps. | [16:21] |
mercutio | like industrial areas tend to have higher pollution, but as long as you don't live by them.. | [16:21] |
brycec | PHX is *big* | [16:21] |
m0unds | yeah, i know
been there lots, it's sprawly as hell | [16:21] |
brycec | brycec lived there lots, agrees and confirms | [16:22] |
mercutio | hmm urban area here is only 559.2 km2
37,725km2 seems a hell of al ot they don't list metro area they do list metro polution, but i live within urban boundaries anyway. | [16:23] |
m0unds | lol, okay i see why it's so big
just found a breakdown of what constitutes the metro oh, can't forget top-of-the-world, arizona | [16:23] |
mercutio | hmm phoenix doesn't list urban area | [16:24] |
brycec | m0unds: link for the class? | [16:25] |
mercutio | but even the city area is bigger than urban area here by far :/ | [16:25] |
m0unds | ah crap, hang on | [16:25] |
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=phoenix%2C+az+metro+area guess it helps if i hit enter
the "cities" part includes 51 distinct towns and cities that make up the metro area | [16:30] | |
mercutio | wikipedia suggested that phoenix was made up of heaps of mini village / towns | [16:31] |
m0unds | it's including stuff 75mi away within the metro, which seems odd
yeah, it is | [16:31] |
mercutio | well you both know the place and i don't
but does it have a central city type area too? | [16:32] |
brycec | it's all city
just mile after mile of it | [16:32] |
mercutio | oh | [16:32] |
brycec | Like LA. | [16:32] |
mercutio | yeh i never been there
it's always around one wilshire on tv :/ i just noticed it one day haha but it always seems to be that general area | [16:33] |
brycec | This is what I'd consider to be the Phoenix area http://www.phxazpools.com/wp-content/uploads/phoenix-az-pools-about-us-page-phoenix-metro-service-area.jpg sadly, no scale on that
Maybe http://85251scottsdale.com/images/Scottsdale%20metroMap.jpg is helpful | [16:34] |
m0unds | yeah, that's what i would have thought - they're including stuff way off in each direction per census.gov stuff
it's strange | [16:36] |
brycec | http://northphoenixazhomes.com/images/phoenix-metro-zipcode-zones-map-small.jpg is a bit cluttered but that's basically the metro area, and has a tiny scale
brycec stops wasting time | [16:36] |
m0unds | http://www.maps4u.com/ | [16:37] |
brycec | 4me? | [16:37] |
m0unds | lol
i saw it said "wide world of maps" on that northphxazhomes thing that was the first link when i searched for it, haha | [16:37] |
brycec | brycec is actually familiar with that map shop | [16:38] |
m0unds | dat SEO | [16:38] |
brycec | They did all the maps for Pizza Huts in AZ | [16:38] |
m0unds | their old site with only partial functionality is referenced before their store stie
site | [16:38] |
brycec | For the delivery drivers, there's a big map on the wall showing the delivery area, streets, etc | [16:38] |
m0unds | ah
worked at pizza hut for 3 months in high school guessi should go finish up in the garage | [16:38] |
brycec | Yes you should. Soon enough, Phoenix will be knocking at your door!
http://www.arizona-leisure.com/gfx/maps/valley-sun-map-760.gif is the best map I've seen for the metro area, showing cities and scales. | [16:41] |
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m0unds | phoenix can have gallup and grants, nm if they want it | [17:01] |
mercutio | google are doing a new router with gentoo linux
wtf OnHub often updates its router software with newly released features without interrupting your connection. so the google stack probably sucks. but the hardware should be able to be repurposed it has 6x2.4ghz + 6x5ghz attennas, plus an aux err antenna | [17:15] |
m0unds | hw oem is tp-link | [17:23] |
mercutio | that's fine by me
tp-links mostly have software issues these days they use cheap power supplies, but you can always find replacements it's atheros switch chip so probably atheros wireless which seems fine (says qca, but that's qualcomm atheros, i still consider it atheros, with some branding stuck on top) | [17:31] |
m0unds | right | [17:33] |
mercutio | will have to see if you can root them when they come out i suppose | [17:34] |
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brycec | Ew, nobody wants Gallup. 16:59:07 m0unds | phoenix can have gallup and grants, nm if they want it
fwiw, I haven't found an authoritative source on their use of Gentoo Just some Phoronix post without any references. | [18:11] |
mercutio | ahh yeh phoronix was my source | [18:20] |
brycec | Consider everything you've ever said now discredited :P | [18:22] |
mercutio | well at least it has nand | [18:22] |
brycec | And NOR.
:P As a side note, OnHub is using the same SOC as the Netgear R7500. | [18:24] |
mercutio | ahh is the 7500 good?
i'd like faster cpus in routers so that they can do gigabit easily with tcp interception | [18:27] |
brycec | (I have no idea, already closed the tab :P) | [18:27] |
gizmoguy | 802.15.4 in a home router. me want | [18:27] |
mercutio | hardware nat shouldn't be necessary for gigabit | [18:28] |
brycec | gizmoguy: there are already home routers with Zigbee in them :P | [18:28] |
gizmoguy | but why not
brycec: go on? | [18:28] |
brycec | @google Almond+ | [18:28] |
BryceBot | 4,110 total results returned for 'Almond+', here's 3
Almond+ (http://www.securifi.com/almondplus) It is more than a router. It's a communication hub, which is great for a connected home. Techcrunch. Almond+ lets you control things like security alerts, heating ... Amazon.com: Securifi Almond+ : (3 Minute Setup) Long Range ... (http://www.amazon.com/Securifi-Almond-Touchscreen-Wireless-Automation/dp/B00R0C2U5E) Amazon.com: Securifi Almond+ : (3 Minute Setup) Long Range Touchscreen Wireless AC Router / Range Extender + Home Automation Hub: Computers ... Almond+ (http://forum.securifi.com/index.php?board=4.0) Almond+ cannot communicate with sensors after power failure. Started by Eduard. 5 Replies 196 Views, Last post August 11, 2015, 07:49:59 PM by Ashok. | [18:28] |
brycec | ^ My 802.11AC AP | [18:29] |
gizmoguy | that's more expensive than the OnHub | [18:29] |
brycec | On the other hand, it exists :P | [18:29] |
gizmoguy | true | [18:29] |
brycec | And has for a little while now | [18:29] |
gizmoguy | really I should probably just add an 802.15.4 radio to my rasp pi | [18:30] |
brycec | (Though I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for most.)
@google raspbee | [18:30] |
gizmoguy | but linux 802.15.4 support isn't flash :( | [18:30] |
BryceBot | 712 total results returned for 'raspbee', here's 3
RaspBee (https://www.dresden-elektronik.de/funktechnik/solutions/wireless-light-control/raspbee/) RaspBee. Erweitert den Raspberry Pi um ZigBee-Funktionalität. Das Aufsatzmodul ermöglicht die direkte Kommunikation mit ZigBee PRO-Geräten wie ... RaspBee premium (https://shop.dresden-elektronik.de/raspbee.html?___store=english) RaspBee premium. SKU: BN-600052. €48.14 excl. Sales Tax and shipping. - prices for higher quantities on request -. Buy 5 pieces for €46.99 each excl. RaspBee (https://www.dresden-elektronik.de/funktechnik/products/boards-and-kits/development-boards/raspbee/?L=1) RaspBee. With RaspBee dresden elektronik is bringing an add-on for the popular Raspberry Pi Single Board Computer onto the market. This add-on module ... | [18:30] |
brycec | :D | [18:30] |
gizmoguy | at work we're using TI CC2538s
with a custom stack on top for doing low power 802.15.4 | [18:31] |
m0unds | brycec: damn it. i was hopeful maybe people from AZ were unaware of how bad it is | [18:33] |
brycec | m0unds: Driven through it ;) | [18:33] |
m0unds | hahah
that's all it takes | [18:33] |
brycec | Exactly. | [18:33] |
m0unds | at least grants has caves and lava tubes | [18:34] |
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brycec | FYI, $1 (first year) .xyz domains https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/gtld/xyz.aspx | [19:05] |
mercutio | abc.xyz is taken already though
no good domain names left | [19:05] |
brycec | As is uvw.xyz
I grabbed brycec.xyz because why nto *not And because I already have brycec.ninja (for $1) | [19:05] |
m0unds | yer a ninja | [19:07] |
mercutio | do you guys remember whwen there was that "rock star sysadmin" thing going around
as if people working IT didn't generally have big egos | [19:08] |
gizmoguy | i am a rock*. plz pay me | [19:09] |
m0unds | no | [19:09] |
brycec | Hm. Haven't had slow DNS propagation in aaages... | [19:10] |
mercutio | maybe it was rock star programmers. | [19:10] |
gizmoguy | brogrammers | [19:10] |
mercutio | haha
i still find it weird when you have some programmer that's really hard to work with in programming, but fine socially | [19:10] |
brycec | (That took like 20 minutes! #FirstWorldProblems) | [19:11] |
mercutio | programming brings out so many quirks/ideologies
brycec: yeh i usually only see slow dns if shifting authorative name servers some people still set dns records to 86400 for domain names but most people seem to go with 3600/10800 | [19:11] |
brycec | I know I do. but if I'm moving, I'll drop it all to 300 or similar a week before :P | [19:12] |
mercutio | and non-significant amounts go for shorter. | [19:12] |
gizmoguy | set ur ttls to 0 | [19:13] |
mercutio | brycec: if i'm shifting i'll set it to 30 or 60 :)
gizmoguy: what does that do? | [19:13] |
gizmoguy | that's what a rockstar sysadmin would do
no caching | [19:13] |
mercutio | i doubt it'd do no caching
might make some things cache it forever :) | [19:13] |
gizmoguy | shall we try it | [19:13] |
brycec | mercutio: depends if I have to work through someone's GUI :P (what the minimum TTL I can set is) | [19:13] |
mercutio | brycec: yeah cloudflare don't go lower than 1800 i think | [19:14] |
m0unds | cloudflare doesn't let you set ttls do they? | [19:14] |
mercutio | oh | [19:14] |
brycec | But this is specifically registration of a domain, not moving. So I have/had to way for *.nic.xyz to receive brycec.xyz | [19:14] |
m0unds | i thought they defaulted to 5 mins or something | [19:14] |
mercutio | maybe auto sets it to 180
err 1800 m0unds: 5 minutes sounds preferable :) that's 30 minutes | [19:14] |
gizmoguy | dig notcached.wand.nz +short | [19:14] |
mercutio | it looks up in 0 msec
err 4 msec | [19:15] |
gizmoguy | i'm awtching tcpdump to see how many queries I get
this is difficult | [19:15] |
mercutio | i'll tcpdump my out
yip nothing going out so dnsmasq is caching it oh hangon i was missing a d | [19:15] |
gizmoguy | unbound seems to cache it too | [19:17] |
mercutio | i get 5 minute ttl
linode tut tut ns2.wand.net.nz is on linode ok cloudflare lets you set 2 minutes for ttl | [19:17] |
gizmoguy | tut tut? | [19:20] |
mercutio | well it's at fremont he.net
which is kind of unstable | [19:20] |
m0unds | oh, only if you don't use their cdn
if you're just using them for dns you can configure ttl | [19:20] |
mercutio | m0unds: i'm using their cdn i just have other records too
i have test.weallsee.net | [19:21] |
m0unds | right, i meant per-record
if i try to set the ttl for a record on the cdn, it says it's managed by them | [19:21] |
mercutio | oh right yeeah | [19:21] |
m0unds | if i set it on a record that isn't on cdn (mx or whatever) it lets me | [19:21] |
mercutio | i see 5 minutes normally
cloudflare's ui has changed | [19:22] |
m0unds | yea, that's what i got when i queried | [19:22] |
gizmoguy | mercutio: it's just a linode VM | [19:22] |
mercutio | gizmoguy: did that sdn switch get enough funding? | [19:25] |
gizmoguy | yip
i've got one on the way | [19:26] |
mercutio | sweet | [19:26] |
m0unds | which one was it? | [19:26] |
mercutio | m0unds: 100 megabit | [19:26] |
m0unds | which sdn switch, sorry
mfgr or project or whatever | [19:27] |
mercutio | some cheap one, gizmo probably has link around
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/northboundnetworks/zodiac-fx-the-worlds-smallest-openflow-sdn-switch was it this one? google found it wow it was close it's the 100 megabit thing that irks me most | [19:27] |
m0unds | neat | [19:28] |
mercutio | but with successful 100 megabit maybe they'll do gigabit | [19:32] |
gizmoguy | he has plans for a gig model | [19:34] |
brycec | Yep, it's covered by the FAQ. tl;dr keeping it cheap. | [19:35] |
mercutio | i wonder if this 2.5 gigabit ethernet has made any progress yet
1.9 gbit 802.11ac is probably close to gigabit's limit can probably max out gigabit ethernet actually if it's decent damnit, 1.9 is hard to search for with will all these broadcom routers that do 600 megabit 2.4 | [19:43] |
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up_the_irons | anyone have experience with these data centers in Frankfurt: Telehouse, Zenium, Interxion | [20:31] |
mercutio | woot :)
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1160068 maybe information on there although people seem to be recommending hetzner on there and one guy suggests first-colo | [20:33] |
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