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| *** | [FBI] starts logging #arpnetworks at Sun Aug 16 00:09:33 2015
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| mnathani_ | @weather auc | [00:27] |
| BryceBot | Santiago Perez, Colombia: 74°F (23°C), Humidity: 96%, Wind: From the West at 2 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=7.06944418,-70.73805237 or re-request this with: @weather -v auc | [00:27] |
| mnathani_ | @weather akl | [00:27] |
| BryceBot | Auckland International, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 55°F (13°C), Humidity: 82%, Wind: From the South at 6 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl | [00:27] |
| mnathani_ | there we go | [00:27] |
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| mercutio | it's kind of chilly | [00:51] |
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| brycec | 01:15:07 | WeeChat 1.3 [compiled on Aug 16 2015 09:43:05]
o/ Weechat 1.3 just released And thanks to the magic of /upgrade: 01:16:12 | WeeChat uptime: 92 days 11:29:03, started on Fri, 15 May 2015 13:47:09 | [01:17] |
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| mercutio | what's it change? | [03:20] |
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| grody | mercutio, already have a load of addresses off my ISP
a /29, /29, a few /30's and /32's and the /48 of 6 | [05:32] |
| mercutio | ahh did you just get another block? | [05:33] |
| grody | err, /28 & /29 | [05:33] |
| mercutio | wow | [05:33] |
| grody | nah, i cant justify more IPs | [05:33] |
| mercutio | are you wasting network/broadcast addresses? | [05:33] |
| grody | only on the /28 | [05:33] |
| mercutio | how much are you paying per IP? | [05:34] |
| grody | atm, nothing extra | [05:34] |
| mercutio | wow | [05:34] |
| grody | but i suspect they may soon start charging | [05:34] |
| mercutio | so you've got like a /27 worth total | [05:34] |
| grody | something like that yea
not contiguous though | [05:34] |
| mercutio | yeah
you could apply for a /23 or /24 probably | [05:34] |
| grody | oh wait.. a /30 and /28 are used as broadcast nets | [05:35] |
| mercutio | and get your own IP space
it'll only go up in volume | [05:35] |
| grody | haha | [05:35] |
| mercutio | err in value
there's final allocation on APNIC and you can still get /22 for new businesses etc dunno what RIPE is doing | [05:35] |
| grody | i dont see that happening | [05:35] |
| mercutio | wtf | [05:36] |
| grody | NAT has recouped about 13 addresses in all | [05:36] |
| mercutio | you have to be a LIR | [05:36] |
| grody | sounds right | [05:36] |
| mercutio | yeah sounds complciated | [05:36] |
| grody | IPv6 is everywhere and since now i can even go IPv6 on mobile phone on 3/4G - moving some hosts into a dedi NAT net was only logical
just glad i have plenty of IPv6 - think i've got 9 active /64's 8 | [05:37] |
| mercutio | i can't tell how much it csots
but some thing to sign up to costs 2000 euros so whatever it is it's probably not cheap | [05:38] |
| grody | yea, to be an LIR there is a yearly cost of a couple of grand iirc | [05:39] |
| mercutio | i dunno if NCC and LIR are the same | [05:39] |
| grody | plett will know :P | [05:39] |
| mercutio | they make it sound complicated | [05:39] |
| grody | probably to stop any tom, dick & harry from going mad | [05:40] |
| mercutio | i dunno i think it should be encouraged to have own IP space
even with the IPv6 migration coming you never know, there may be better systems in the future | [05:40] |
| grody | with tunnels being so easy and seemless, i find it easier just to get services from places like my ISP, ARP & others that will chuck small blocks (even at extra cost) and just "relocate" them | [05:41] |
| mercutio | and costs may come down a little
but then your ip changes all the time i think it's better to just advertise a subnet | [05:41] |
| grody | well, if you have dynamic - all hosters i use are static
session between my pfsense @ home with my ARP has stayed true for 21 days now the OVH has dropped 6 times in two weeks, but thats because of some stupid french network issues | [05:42] |
| mercutio | well either you use the ip address of the space you're going to
and that's static, but you dynamically go to different ones or you dynamically shift between different ones which means it ends up being like dynamic ip regardless multihoming should be encouraged :) | [05:44] |
| grody | http://imgur.com/3TYdfxB
thats my pocket 3G router running openwrt - use an L2TP to my ISP, bypass cariers double NAT, gets IPv6 and static port map NAT for 4 well... how i have the hosts on VPN can be both client and gateway - i could route all my traffic via my ARP or OVH, NAT from one of their IPs - which does play havock with some things as you end up having 3/4 source IPs it'd be a perfect scenario for a single NAT IP @home pfSense on single NAT - openvpn bridge into a few other VPS running pfSense, use their gateways as a round-robin NAT, changing your source location on each new connection | [05:46] |
| mercutio | that sounds complicated. | [05:50] |
| grody | fun though
it was joining my ISP that got me really experimenting with networking realising i can build a network that effectively becomes an extention of the internet, not some hidden private behind a gateway | [05:50] |
| mercutio | i'm being a little wasteful atm
i have /29 and two /32s. | [05:51] |
| grody | im wasteful with my ARP - have the net/bcast used
but then, im only using 3 of the 5 available keep meaning to email support to get the /48 routed to me - want to see if i can send DHCP6/RADVD from ARP to a network @home probably be easier to get a /32, have the /29 routed as it, then i could alias them as /32's s/as it/through it/ | [05:52] |
| BryceBot | <grody> probably be easier to get a /32, have the /29 routed through it, then i could alias them as /32's | [05:56] |
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| *** | mike-bur1 is now known as mike-burns | [06:51] |
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| grody | http://imgur.com/3OvzH6n - curious i dont see the packet loss between my ARP and @home that i do when my ARP pings the gateway address | http://imgur.com/Q5wzUR7
although the latter registers more err, former | [14:52] |
| mercutio | grody: that's normal isn't it?
i mean loss isn't necessarily the same to end point and first hop[ | [14:57] |
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| gizmoguy | mercutio: is new synergy any good for you?
still crashes every few hours for me :/ | [18:01] |
| staticsafe | new synergy is fine for me, no more SSL issues or odd CPU usage
(Windows) | [18:08] |
| mercutio | gizmoguy: it's worse. | [18:10] |
| gizmoguy | staticsafe: linux/linux here
yeah I think I agree mercutio :( | [18:11] |
| JC_Denton | how are you all using synergy?
i feel out of date; i'm still using one monitor at home :( | [18:11] |
| gizmoguy | I have 2 computers on my desk. 3 monitors | [18:12] |
| brycec | laptop + desktop | [18:12] |
| mercutio | dual deskstops
haha freudian slip | [18:13] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [18:13] |
| gizmoguy | dual desktops here too :P | [18:13] |
| mercutio | damnit i'm caring about 9 cents | [18:13] |
| brycec | (In the past, I've done it with numerous desktops, monitors above and below, and stretching several wide, but I just don't need that nowadays.) | [18:13] |
| mercutio | for some reason tax calculator figures out 9 cents more tax refund i'm entitled to :(
ahh just bank interest screwed up the awk :) synergy is cool i just wish it was stable and didn't use so much cpu but now it's gone non-free i think it will only go worse | [18:14] |
| JC_Denton | i really want to get a bigger desk, but then the furniture won't match | [18:17] |
| brycec | Holy crap, you weren't kidding | [18:18] |
| mercutio | jc: i have way too many desks.
brycec: about the non-free? | [18:18] |
| brycec | Since that guy (forget his name) took over, it's gone way downhill | [18:18] |
| mercutio | yeah it needs another fork | [18:18] |
| brycec | He's threatened charging before, but I don't pay attention | [18:19] |
| gizmoguy | Nick I think?
Nick bolton or something I donated back when it was FOSS to help them out then they used that to rent an SFO office and hire people >.> | [18:19] |
| mercutio | yeh it seems pretty crazy | [18:20] |
| gizmoguy | and they still only manage a release every 2 months and like 4/5 bugfixes per release | [18:21] |
| brycec | And he's doing no software testing, instead pawning that off on people who *pay* to be beta testers | [18:23] |
| staticsafe | yeah thats the part that actually bothers me | [18:25] |
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