[00:43] *** dwarren has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [00:43] *** Seji has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [00:45] *** dwarren has joined #arpnetworks [00:45] *** Seji has joined #arpnetworks [00:49] *** dwarren has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [00:49] *** Seji has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [00:50] *** Seji has joined #arpnetworks [01:45] *** dwarren has joined #arpnetworks [04:17] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [11:05] *** neish_ is now known as neish [13:09] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [13:09] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks [15:46] @weather Waterloo, Ontario [15:46] Multiple locations matched your query: Waterloo, AL (zmw:35677.1.99999), Waterloo, BE (zmw:00000.25.06447), Waterloo, IL (zmw:62298.1.99999), Waterloo, IN (zmw:46793.1.99999), Waterloo, IA (zmw:50701.1.99999), Waterloo, NE (zmw:68069.1.99999), Waterloo, NY (zmw:13165.1.99999), Waterloo, OH (zmw:45688.1.99999), Waterloo, OR (zmw:97355.2.99999), Waterloo, QC, CA (zmw:00000.12.WCMGB), Waterloo, SL (zmw:00000.20.61856), Waterloo, SC (zmw:29384.1.9999 [15:47] @weather ykf [15:47] Kitchener-Waterloo Regional, Ontario: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 79°F (26°C), Humidity: 61%, Wind: From the WSW at 14 MPH Gusting to 21 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.46163177,-80.38565826 or re-request this with: @weather -v ykf [16:01] has anyone played with multipath tcp yet? [17:58] FreeBSD 10.2 was just released. Bets on how many years until RandalSchwartz is running it? :D [17:58] @last RandalSchwartz [17:58] brycec, I last saw RandalSchwartz 1 days 9 hours 50 min 35 sec ago quitting: Ping timeout: 244 seconds. [17:58] @lastm RandalSchwartz [17:58] The last thing RandalSchwartz said was on Jul 28, 2015 19:31:50, 2 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 24 minutes, 3 seconds ago, "back again." [17:58] lol [17:59] * JC_Denton yawns [17:59] i badly want a freenas mini [18:01] But it only holds 4 drives [18:01] i still dunno if i trust freebsd 10 [18:02] What about it do you distrust? I've been running 10 without issue (except for one ZFS bug, argh) [18:03] (Now to determine if https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/10/sys/vm/vm_pageout.c?r1=272221&r2=272875&pathrev=272875 made it into 10.2... [18:03] it seemed a bit rushed, and there's that reboot bug [18:03] the non-syncing one or whatever [18:03] ^^ That's the fix to my bug, one that causes the machine to freeze up in strange ways when caching to SD [18:04] it maybe mostly fine [18:05] Looks like yes, my fix is in 10.2 \o/ [18:05] * brycec eagerly plans an upgrade [18:06] it sounded like it was a week out [18:07] And yet here they are, ready for fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/10.2/ [18:11] heh [18:11] http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/10.2/ [18:11] they're on ARP too. [18:14] Nice :) Now they just need to make it to the ISO library (if they haven't already) [18:18] don't think they have [18:18] Looks like ARP doesn't quite have them yet actually - a bunch of RC3 stuff, and some of the amd64 ISOs [18:18] ahh [18:18] (in the freebsd mirror) [18:18] amd64 is all that matters [18:18] Not on my RPI it's not :P [18:18] oh :) [18:19] (I didn't want to flood FreeBSD's own mirror, so I was going to download the image from ARP's mirror, but that turns out to be incomplete ;) ) [18:21] has freebsd 10.2 got the new openssh version [18:21] i suppose it missed out [18:30] new version being what? [18:30] iirc, the announcement indicated 1.0.1p or something [18:31] i'm probably gonna wait to do my fbsd boxes, just out of laziness [18:31] OpenSSH 7.0 was released a couple of days ago. [18:31] ah [18:31] oh, i was thinking openssl [18:31] * m0unds derps [18:31] clearly [18:31] oh golly, i wonder why it didn't make it in [18:31] haha [18:31] (the "what you were thinking" not the "derps") [18:31] both are pretty clear [18:32] the derps and the openssl [18:32] hahaha [18:32] the derps, i has them [18:33] oh, i meant to ask you brycec - do you have native ipv6 at home/work and have issues w/GCM on your android tablet? [18:33] native as in...? [18:33] native as in provided by your ISP and not by way of tunneling? [18:33] as in native? [18:33] haha [18:34] Comcast offers it, but I still use my tunnel instead [18:34] ah, ok [18:34] in-network, it's "native ipv6" so I was unclear [18:34] gotcha [18:34] (And no, I've not had GCM issues either) [18:35] boo [18:35] i don't know anyone who has a modern android device and ipv6 on their home network [18:35] tunnelled /48, radvd+dhcpv6, it all Just Works. [18:36] i care way more than i should about the pf default hash changing in freebsd 10.2 [18:36] I agree, more than you should. That 3% improvement in PPS, man... [18:36] 3% pps improvement. [18:36] yeah [18:36] but murmur3 is not only a fast hash, but a good hash [18:36] it's win/win [18:38] Ick. Looks like my only reasonable path to update my RPI is to blow away my current SD and re-dd [18:38] maybe good excuse to get something better than a pi :) [18:38] But now that it's an official image in 10.2 maybe there will be pkg repos for it and stuff now [18:38] sd cards have limited writes and all [18:38] it may be designed to minimise writes. [18:39] Yeah, lots of md stuff [18:39] which makes debugging "why it crashed" a little annoying... but I really don't care that much [18:39] it's a simple out-of-band serial box in my server closet [18:39] And I really didn't want "just another Linux pi" so it runs FreeBSD. [18:40] (I'm pro-OpenBSD, but there is no working RPI port, and I don't have time+resources to work on it... So at least it's *a* BSD) [18:40] maybe netbsd would work [18:40] i have an arm box that i had issues with [18:40] i should look at it again [18:41] You say that as if NetBSD is better than FreeBSD in some way. *burn* [18:41] actually the most annoying thing is if you used a keyboard and mouse at once the power draw would create a whine [18:41] freebsd is the slackware of bsd's [18:41] all this bloat and questionably useful stuff [18:41] unfortunately in comparison to other things these days slackware doesn't seem as bloated :) [18:41] I disagree. FreeBSD is the Ubuntu of BSDs [18:42] brycec: have you checked out bitrig? [18:42] I'm well aware of it [18:42] @bitrig amd64 [18:42] amd64 -> snapshots: Sat Jul 04 2015 05:48:12 GMT-0700 (PDT) [18:42] i kind of thought it'd go nowhere. [18:42] @bitrig arm [18:42] Sorry, I don't track 'arm'. I only track amd64, armv7. [18:42] they are doing arm stuff too afaik [18:43] I too am surprised it hasn't died yet :p [18:43] armv7, rpi is armv6 [18:43] armv6 eww [18:43] i think my arm box is v7 [18:43] BeagleBone Black is v7 I believe [18:43] this is cubietruck [18:43] * brycec happens to have cellphones of both architectures too [18:43] Yeah think that's 7 too [18:44] Pretty sure all the mainstream ARM boards are v7 [18:44] my old cellphone before my previous cellphone was v6 [18:44] Including the RPI2 [18:44] cpu was pretty weak on it [18:44] lg optimus one [18:45] that said it was my first android phone, so it was special for that at least :) [18:47] apparently there's a cubieboard 4 now [18:48] yea, RPI2 is also A7 [18:48] * brycec said that [18:48] i was confirming it [18:48] * brycec confirms m0unds [18:48] doesn't rpi2 run windows 10? [18:48] * m0unds confirms brycec confirmed me [18:48] Yes [18:48] it can [18:49] https://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support [18:49] bananapis are fun too, slightly larger but have a sata controller [18:49] their soc mfgr kind of sucks though, it's not as "good" a variant as the rpi/rpi2 [18:50] cubietruck has sata [18:50] it's also got onboard nand, microsd, gigabit ethernet [18:50] i should try finding a powered hub for it [18:50] it would probably fix the whine issue [18:51] i dunno why so many of these things use usb for power though [18:51] i'd rather shift to poe [18:51] but i suppose people want to do wireless etc. [18:51] because "everybody" has a USB power brick [18:52] at least relative to the number of people with PoE [18:52] means you can't use 3.5" hard-disk though [18:52] yeh they could bundle injectors though [18:52] or at least support that way of doing things [18:52] They do [18:52] @google PoE to USB [18:52] 884,000 total results returned for 'PoE to USB', here's 3 [18:52] How do I modify my Raspberry Pi to be powered over PoE? (http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/715/how-do-i-modify-my-raspberry-pi-to-be-powered-over-poe) Jun 26, 2012 ... If you want a Raspberry Pi PoE solution that conforms to IEEE 802.3af .... that converts POE to a 5v 3amp usb source: POE-MSPLT-USB. [18:52] PoE to USB Adapter for iPad Kiosks . iPad Enclosures (http://www.ipadenclosures.com/ipad_kiosk_enclosure/accessories/poe-to-usb-adapter-for-ipad) Using iPad kiosks has been a revolutionizing solution for many applications, the PoE adapter is the next accessory to assist that revolution, reducing cost of iPad ... [18:52] PoE to USB Adapter - ArmorActive (http://www.armoractive.com/products/poe-to-usb-adapter/) The PoE (Power-over-Ethernet) to USB Adapter by ArmorActive is a solution that lends itself to evolving the way tablet kiosks are used in business. With the ease ... [18:52] ahh cool [18:53] i did not know that [21:57] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:40] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [23:12] this new skylake cpu really hasn't had that much press. [23:12] even though in theory it's two generations newer than haswlel [23:45] @wa 40oz to ml [23:45] convert 40 fl oz (fluid ounces) to milliliters;1183 mL (milliliters);1.183 L (liters);0.001183 m^3 (cubic meters);1183 cm^3 (cubic centimeters);5 cups;2.5 pints;~~ ( 0.053 ~~ 1\/19 ) × volume of one mole of ideal gas at STP ( 1 mol molar volume of ideal gas (273.15 K, 101.325 kPa) );~~ 2 × volume of a typical human breath (~~ 0.5 L );~~ 19 × volume of an Apple iPhone 4 (~~ 6.3×10^-5 m^3 );~~ 0.71 × volume of a US size 5 can ( 7 cups );~