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mnathani | @weather Waterloo, Ontario | [15:46] |
BryceBot | Multiple locations matched your query: Waterloo, AL (zmw:35677.1.99999), Waterloo, BE (zmw:00000.25.06447), Waterloo, IL (zmw:62298.1.99999), Waterloo, IN (zmw:46793.1.99999), Waterloo, IA (zmw:50701.1.99999), Waterloo, NE (zmw:68069.1.99999), Waterloo, NY (zmw:13165.1.99999), Waterloo, OH (zmw:45688.1.99999), Waterloo, OR (zmw:97355.2.99999), Waterloo, QC, CA (zmw:00000.12.WCMGB), Waterloo, SL (zmw:00000.20.61856), Waterloo, SC (zmw:29384.1.9999 | [15:46] |
mnathani | @weather ykf | [15:47] |
BryceBot | Kitchener-Waterloo Regional, Ontario: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 79°F (26°C), Humidity: 61%, Wind: From the WSW at 14 MPH Gusting to 21 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.46163177,-80.38565826 or re-request this with: @weather -v ykf | [15:47] |
mercutio | has anyone played with multipath tcp yet? | [16:01] |
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brycec | FreeBSD 10.2 was just released. Bets on how many years until RandalSchwartz is running it? :D
@last RandalSchwartz | [17:58] |
BryceBot | brycec, I last saw RandalSchwartz 1 days 9 hours 50 min 35 sec ago quitting: Ping timeout: 244 seconds. | [17:58] |
brycec | @lastm RandalSchwartz | [17:58] |
BryceBot | The last thing RandalSchwartz said was on Jul 28, 2015 19:31:50, 2 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 24 minutes, 3 seconds ago, "back again." | [17:58] |
brycec | lol | [17:58] |
JC_Denton | JC_Denton yawns
i badly want a freenas mini | [17:59] |
brycec | But it only holds 4 drives | [18:01] |
mercutio | i still dunno if i trust freebsd 10 | [18:01] |
brycec | What about it do you distrust? I've been running 10 without issue (except for one ZFS bug, argh)
(Now to determine if https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/10/sys/vm/vm_pageout.c?r1=272221&r2=272875&pathrev=272875 made it into 10.2... | [18:02] |
mercutio | it seemed a bit rushed, and there's that reboot bug
the non-syncing one or whatever | [18:03] |
brycec | ^^ That's the fix to my bug, one that causes the machine to freeze up in strange ways when caching to SD | [18:03] |
mercutio | it maybe mostly fine | [18:04] |
brycec | Looks like yes, my fix is in 10.2 o/
brycec eagerly plans an upgrade | [18:05] |
mercutio | it sounded like it was a week out | [18:06] |
brycec | And yet here they are, ready for fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/10.2/ | [18:07] |
mercutio | heh
http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/10.2/ they're on ARP too. | [18:11] |
brycec | Nice :) Now they just need to make it to the ISO library (if they haven't already) | [18:14] |
mercutio | don't think they have | [18:18] |
brycec | Looks like ARP doesn't quite have them yet actually - a bunch of RC3 stuff, and some of the amd64 ISOs | [18:18] |
mercutio | ahh | [18:18] |
brycec | (in the freebsd mirror) | [18:18] |
mercutio | amd64 is all that matters | [18:18] |
brycec | Not on my RPI it's not :P | [18:18] |
mercutio | oh :) | [18:18] |
brycec | (I didn't want to flood FreeBSD's own mirror, so I was going to download the image from ARP's mirror, but that turns out to be incomplete ;) ) | [18:19] |
mercutio | has freebsd 10.2 got the new openssh version
i suppose it missed out | [18:21] |
m0unds | new version being what?
iirc, the announcement indicated 1.0.1p or something i'm probably gonna wait to do my fbsd boxes, just out of laziness | [18:30] |
brycec | OpenSSH 7.0 was released a couple of days ago. | [18:31] |
m0unds | ah
oh, i was thinking openssl m0unds derps | [18:31] |
brycec | clearly | [18:31] |
m0unds | oh golly, i wonder why it didn't make it in
haha | [18:31] |
brycec | (the "what you were thinking" not the "derps") | [18:31] |
m0unds | both are pretty clear
the derps and the openssl hahaha the derps, i has them oh, i meant to ask you brycec - do you have native ipv6 at home/work and have issues w/GCM on your android tablet? | [18:31] |
brycec | native as in...? | [18:33] |
m0unds | native as in provided by your ISP and not by way of tunneling?
as in native? haha | [18:33] |
brycec | Comcast offers it, but I still use my tunnel instead | [18:34] |
m0unds | ah, ok | [18:34] |
brycec | in-network, it's "native ipv6" so I was unclear | [18:34] |
m0unds | gotcha | [18:34] |
brycec | (And no, I've not had GCM issues either) | [18:34] |
m0unds | boo
i don't know anyone who has a modern android device and ipv6 on their home network | [18:35] |
brycec | tunnelled /48, radvd+dhcpv6, it all Just Works. | [18:35] |
mercutio | i care way more than i should about the pf default hash changing in freebsd 10.2 | [18:36] |
brycec | I agree, more than you should. That 3% improvement in PPS, man... | [18:36] |
mercutio | 3% pps improvement.
yeah but murmur3 is not only a fast hash, but a good hash it's win/win | [18:36] |
brycec | Ick. Looks like my only reasonable path to update my RPI is to blow away my current SD and re-dd | [18:38] |
mercutio | maybe good excuse to get something better than a pi :) | [18:38] |
brycec | But now that it's an official image in 10.2 maybe there will be pkg repos for it and stuff now | [18:38] |
mercutio | sd cards have limited writes and all
it may be designed to minimise writes. | [18:38] |
brycec | Yeah, lots of md stuff
which makes debugging "why it crashed" a little annoying... but I really don't care that much it's a simple out-of-band serial box in my server closet And I really didn't want "just another Linux pi" so it runs FreeBSD. (I'm pro-OpenBSD, but there is no working RPI port, and I don't have time+resources to work on it... So at least it's *a* BSD) | [18:39] |
mercutio | maybe netbsd would work
i have an arm box that i had issues with i should look at it again | [18:40] |
brycec | You say that as if NetBSD is better than FreeBSD in some way. *burn* | [18:41] |
mercutio | actually the most annoying thing is if you used a keyboard and mouse at once the power draw would create a whine
freebsd is the slackware of bsd's all this bloat and questionably useful stuff unfortunately in comparison to other things these days slackware doesn't seem as bloated :) | [18:41] |
brycec | I disagree. FreeBSD is the Ubuntu of BSDs | [18:41] |
mercutio | brycec: have you checked out bitrig? | [18:42] |
brycec | I'm well aware of it
@bitrig amd64 | [18:42] |
BryceBot | amd64 -> snapshots: Sat Jul 04 2015 05:48:12 GMT-0700 (PDT) | [18:42] |
mercutio | i kind of thought it'd go nowhere. | [18:42] |
brycec | @bitrig arm | [18:42] |
BryceBot | Sorry, I don't track 'arm'. I only track amd64, armv7. | [18:42] |
mercutio | they are doing arm stuff too afaik | [18:42] |
brycec | I too am surprised it hasn't died yet :p
armv7, rpi is armv6 | [18:43] |
mercutio | armv6 eww
i think my arm box is v7 | [18:43] |
brycec | BeagleBone Black is v7 I believe | [18:43] |
mercutio | this is cubietruck | [18:43] |
brycec | brycec happens to have cellphones of both architectures too
Yeah think that's 7 too Pretty sure all the mainstream ARM boards are v7 | [18:43] |
mercutio | my old cellphone before my previous cellphone was v6 | [18:44] |
brycec | Including the RPI2 | [18:44] |
mercutio | cpu was pretty weak on it
lg optimus one that said it was my first android phone, so it was special for that at least :) apparently there's a cubieboard 4 now | [18:44] |
m0unds | yea, RPI2 is also A7 | [18:48] |
brycec | brycec said that | [18:48] |
m0unds | i was confirming it | [18:48] |
brycec | brycec confirms m0unds | [18:48] |
mercutio | doesn't rpi2 run windows 10? | [18:48] |
m0unds | m0unds confirms brycec confirmed me | [18:48] |
brycec | Yes | [18:48] |
m0unds | it can | [18:48] |
brycec | https://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support | [18:49] |
m0unds | bananapis are fun too, slightly larger but have a sata controller
their soc mfgr kind of sucks though, it's not as "good" a variant as the rpi/rpi2 | [18:49] |
mercutio | cubietruck has sata
it's also got onboard nand, microsd, gigabit ethernet i should try finding a powered hub for it it would probably fix the whine issue i dunno why so many of these things use usb for power though i'd rather shift to poe but i suppose people want to do wireless etc. | [18:50] |
brycec | because "everybody" has a USB power brick
at least relative to the number of people with PoE | [18:51] |
mercutio | means you can't use 3.5" hard-disk though
yeh they could bundle injectors though or at least support that way of doing things | [18:52] |
brycec | They do
@google PoE to USB | [18:52] |
BryceBot | 884,000 total results returned for 'PoE to USB', here's 3
How do I modify my Raspberry Pi to be powered over PoE? (http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/715/how-do-i-modify-my-raspberry-pi-to-be-powered-over-poe) Jun 26, 2012 ... If you want a Raspberry Pi PoE solution that conforms to IEEE 802.3af .... that converts POE to a 5v 3amp usb source: POE-MSPLT-USB. PoE to USB Adapter for iPad Kiosks . iPad Enclosures (http://www.ipadenclosures.com/ipad_kiosk_enclosure/accessories/poe-to-usb-adapter-for-ipad) Using iPad kiosks has been a revolutionizing solution for many applications, the PoE adapter is the next accessory to assist that revolution, reducing cost of iPad ... PoE to USB Adapter - ArmorActive (http://www.armoractive.com/products/poe-to-usb-adapter/) The PoE (Power-over-Ethernet) to USB Adapter by ArmorActive is a solution that lends itself to evolving the way tablet kiosks are used in business. With the ease ... | [18:52] |
mercutio | ahh cool
i did not know that | [18:52] |
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mercutio | this new skylake cpu really hasn't had that much press.
even though in theory it's two generations newer than haswlel | [23:12] |
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mnathani_ | @wa 40oz to ml | [23:45] |
BryceBot | convert 40 fl oz (fluid ounces) to milliliters;1183 mL (milliliters);1.183 L (liters);0.001183 m^3 (cubic meters);1183 cm^3 (cubic centimeters);5 cups;2.5 pints;~~ ( 0.053 ~~ 1/19 ) × volume of one mole of ideal gas at STP ( 1 mol molar volume of ideal gas (273.15 K, 101.325 kPa) );~~ 2 × volume of a typical human breath (~~ 0.5 L );~~ 19 × volume of an Apple iPhone 4 (~~ 6.3×10^-5 m^3 );~~ 0.71 × volume of a US size 5 can ( 7 cups );~ | [23:45] |
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