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[15:11] forgot that even existed [15:11] oh, asus is the oem [15:11] that's why it runs atom [15:11] otherwise i'd wager a guess it'd be arm [15:12] they're the largest distributor of handsets w/atom chipsets atm [15:14] orly? TIL. [15:14] My Asus tablet is ARM though ;) [15:14] (Nexus 7) [15:14] yea, the zenphone and i think the new "padfone" or whatever they're calling the next thing [15:14] ever have nand issues w/that? [15:15] Nope [15:15] i think their whole mid-high/high range of devices is on atom chipsets [15:15] maybe some of the low end too [15:15] that's good, i remembered hearing some people had shitty luck w/those [15:16] http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/ [15:16] Only complaint is that it's slow - both relative to modern devices, and Android isn't as smooth as it once was. [15:16] http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone-2E-US-ATT-exclusive/ [15:16] those two [15:16] ah, that's a bummer [15:16] It's a pretty common complain. [15:17] And it doesn't owe me much, it's 3 years old [15:17] pretty good age for an android device [15:17] And it's still getting updates which is impressive [15:17] that's good too [15:17] Even if those updates aren't "great" :p [15:18] it sucks to buy a device and have it just cease to exist in the mind of the oem after 18 mos [15:18] I have a Nook Color (and a Nook Tablet) that haven't had a software update in 2 years :p [15:18] ouch [15:18] It's okay, they run CM just fine. [15:18] Surprisingly fine, even. [15:18] m0unds: Room needs to be made for the next device to carry the lightning bolts and flames [15:18] i remember the nook software being kinda janky [15:19] kellytk: yeah, haha [15:19] My fav feature of the Nook+CM was they could dual-boot pretty easily. CM has a "universal boot loader" that lets you pick from booting off the internal flash or the microSD. [15:20] ah, cool [15:20] there was a bootstrapper thing for cm + webos on the hp touchpad that let you do that too [16:23] it's kind of disconcerting when you have to have "fast" phoen to have "good" performance on android. [16:24] they should do the develop-on-way-less-ram trick [16:32] People have come to want new, shiny, gimmicky features faster than develop-on-way-less-ram can support. [16:32] Or so it seems. [16:36] i suppose it's always been the case [16:36] like windows integrating ie when computers didn't have much ram [19:16] m0unds, yea, my former windows 8.1 tablet now dual boots android [19:16] puts a lot of tablets of ARM eq. specs to shame :D [19:16] quad core baytrail cpu, decent intel HD graphics.. its kinda nice [19:18] but even an old 1.6GHz N270 Atom laptop with onboard 3G & only an 8GB flash drive (old ass dell thing) - was running XP and was, well, yea [19:18] put android on it and bloody hell [19:19] it boots up in around 30 seconds, fully usable [19:21] considering moving the beagles over to android too [21:21] nice grody. [21:22] i'm kind of wondering what hybrid arm/intel type things could do for performance [21:22] the intel l1 cache etc is insanely fast these days. [21:22] and arm is pretty far behind on memory bandwidth [21:23] but with new improvements etc happening now days i suspect single channel ddr4, fast pci-e, etc etc all should be coming [21:23] and with pci-e ssd's etc, it may be that < 2 second boots happen soon [21:27] 30 seconds sounds kind of slow to me [21:27] That's what she said!! [22:53] *** rendrag has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:54] *** rendrag has joined #arpnetworks [23:05] *** ben1 has joined #arpnetworks [23:05] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:05] *** mercutio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [23:08] *** toeshred has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1) [23:09] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [23:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [23:14] *** ben1 is now known as mercutio [23:14] it's kind of strang when you see yourself quit [23:15] *** toeshred has joined #arpnetworks