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neish has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) jpalmer: someone snuck a video camera into the meeting room of my last office. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg BryceBot: YouTube video: "The Expert (Short Comedy Sketch)" by Lauris Beinerts up_the_irons: qbit: buttons are back; and i'm an idiot for forgetting them until now... ;) qbit: yay buttons o/
up_the_irons: thanks :D grody: i ♥ the android-x86 port up_the_irons: qbit: np :) grody: bloody useful to reuse old equipment and give them purpose again
surprising on how much it works on out of the box m0unds: grody: intel put a ton of work into getting android x86 working well, since they're trying to get Atom stuff in as many phones as possible brycec: And set-tops
like the Nexus Player. m0unds: forgot that even existed
oh, asus is the oem
that's why it runs atom
otherwise i'd wager a guess it'd be arm
they're the largest distributor of handsets w/atom chipsets atm brycec: orly? TIL.
My Asus tablet is ARM though ;)
(Nexus 7) m0unds: yea, the zenphone and i think the new "padfone" or whatever they're calling the next thing
ever have nand issues w/that? brycec: Nope m0unds: i think their whole mid-high/high range of devices is on atom chipsets
maybe some of the low end too
that's good, i remembered hearing some people had shitty luck w/those
http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/ brycec: Only complaint is that it's slow - both relative to modern devices, and Android isn't as smooth as it once was. m0unds: http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone-2E-US-ATT-exclusive/
those two
ah, that's a bummer brycec: It's a pretty common complain.
And it doesn't owe me much, it's 3 years old m0unds: pretty good age for an android device brycec: And it's still getting updates which is impressive m0unds: that's good too brycec: Even if those updates aren't "great" :p m0unds: it sucks to buy a device and have it just cease to exist in the mind of the oem after 18 mos brycec: I have a Nook Color (and a Nook Tablet) that haven't had a software update in 2 years :p m0unds: ouch brycec: It's okay, they run CM just fine.
Surprisingly fine, even. kellytk: m0unds: Room needs to be made for the next device to carry the lightning bolts and flames m0unds: i remember the nook software being kinda janky
kellytk: yeah, haha brycec: My fav feature of the Nook+CM was they could dual-boot pretty easily. CM has a "universal boot loader" that lets you pick from booting off the internal flash or the microSD. m0unds: ah, cool
there was a bootstrapper thing for cm + webos on the hp touchpad that let you do that too mercutio: it's kind of disconcerting when you have to have "fast" phoen to have "good" performance on android.
they should do the develop-on-way-less-ram trick brycec: People have come to want new, shiny, gimmicky features faster than develop-on-way-less-ram can support.
Or so it seems. mercutio: i suppose it's always been the case
like windows integrating ie when computers didn't have much ram grody: m0unds, yea, my former windows 8.1 tablet now dual boots android
puts a lot of tablets of ARM eq. specs to shame :D
quad core baytrail cpu, decent intel HD graphics.. its kinda nice
but even an old 1.6GHz N270 Atom laptop with onboard 3G & only an 8GB flash drive (old ass dell thing) - was running XP and was, well, yea
put android on it and bloody hell
it boots up in around 30 seconds, fully usable
considering moving the beagles over to android too mercutio: nice grody.
i'm kind of wondering what hybrid arm/intel type things could do for performance
the intel l1 cache etc is insanely fast these days.
and arm is pretty far behind on memory bandwidth
but with new improvements etc happening now days i suspect single channel ddr4, fast pci-e, etc etc all should be coming
and with pci-e ssd's etc, it may be that < 2 second boots happen soon
30 seconds sounds kind of slow to me BryceBot: That's what she said!! ***: rendrag has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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