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rendrag has joined #arpnetworks brycec: I seem to recall somebody mentioning that you couldn't do a Win 10 install, or maybe it was upgrade, without a Microsoft account. I am here to say that you can do both without even once being prompted for a Microsoft ID. mercutio: you can't do insider program upgrade to rtm without msn brycec: well that's not a scenario I can test easily :P
upgraded a Win 7 machine earlier, which obviously didn't have a msft ID associated. And just did a fresh install. mercutio: yeah i had to shift to msn account
i was using it without for aegs. brycec: And pleasantly I've got through the whole Win10 install without entering a key :) (I'm sure it will bitch later) mercutio: but i was stuck on 10132 or something
nah there's no keys now somehow
it identifys with your motherboard afaik though brycec: (I mean the clean install) mercutio: so if you change motherboard it'll stop working brycec: heh, it's prompted a few times and I click "I'll do this later" or whatever mercutio: and i've got it on i7-3770
so i may want to change motherboard at some point :(
so what do you think of windows 10? brycec: I really, really , really wish the backups weren't running right now. this is slow as fuck
(but they run in the middle of the night, a good time for backups generally) mercutio: what backups? brycec: at work mercutio: oh ok
you're working?
isn't it like 3 am? :) brycec: yes, exactly
because fuck windows
fuck it so hard mercutio: i remember when people used to say that windows 95 was stable
and they never had any problems with it brycec: (dealing with a smattering of issues, from Visual Studio to WSUS) mercutio: there was like an uptime bug that hit after 47 days or something
hardly anyone used to hit it
oh apparently it's 49.7 days
oh it was on 98 too brycec: I recently discovered the Win-I shortcut. that's made things much simpler. (it opens the control panel) mercutio: have you tried win x?
i just use win-x, win-d, win-e
and i start typing for things on control panel normally brycec: what's win-x? mercutio: it brings up a menu
which has command prompt, control panel, etc on it
there's also win-r for run brycec: yeah I knew the others, and obv win-r mercutio: and for some reason i seem to accidentally do win-l too much brycec: but -i and -x were new to me
i lock my screen all the time, on purpose mercutio: i think windows key sticks in synergy or smoething hazardous: i really like how when installign w10
the eula says in bold if you're in the states, read the no suing us only arbirtration section
then when it installs, i have to click customise settings
and explicitly turn off 10+ things that are like "share location" "share wifi passwords" "auto connect to open wifi networks"
all enabled by default ***: hazardous has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
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Guest75323 is now known as qbit qbit: oh snap - are all the dedi's sold out? :D
good problem for you guys :D ***: NiTe has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) staticsafe: saw some prefix withdrawal alerts for my v6 prefix announced here last night mercutio: hazardous: _optout_nomap m0unds: hazardous: wow, 10 things? mercutio: staticsafe: did they stay withdrawn? staticsafe: nope ***: nesta_ has joined #arpnetworks
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nesta_ is now known as nesta mercutio: i wonder why bind9 is still so popular m0unds: dunno
are there still systems that ship w/bind9 in base? mercutio: yeh i think so
semi-mainstream news is reporting on the bind vulnerability :) m0unds: gotta scaremonger as much as possible mercutio: well it's been 15 years since it was widely known that bind is a bad idea
and bind9 did not fix the issues
at least sendmail isn't common now brycec: Mostly because sendmail was a beast to configure, not because security :P staticsafe: I like BIND because of the excellent documentation and the feature
features* m0unds: so nice outside today brycec: Sadly, our nice weather is at an end for now. 32C/90F here at noon, and the high's about 40C/100F
but for awhile, it didn't get about 23C/75F in the day, super pleasant m0unds: uggghhhh
humid too? brycec: Not really, 25% ish m0unds: oh, that's good
still sucks temp wise since so many houses and stuff don't have ac brycec: But a whole week of leaving the AC off, in the summer. Was glorious :D m0unds: yeah, hahaha
mine ran a whopping 30 mins yesterday brycec: Yeah but they're used to it. Or they buy window/wall/portable AC units m0unds: but it was sub-70F this morning when i ran errands, and only just hit ~80 at 1300 brycec: Nice :) It still hits 50/60 at night here at least.
(though earlier in the summer there was brief time it didn't get below 80F) m0unds: yuck brycec: pissed me off to not only leave the AC on (thermostat) all day and night, but dammit I moved away from Phoenix m0unds: hahaha
was just thinking that's one of my least fav things about low elevation desert
phx and las vegas - hot during the day and slightly less hot at night brycec: Seems like that has much more to do with other aspects than just elevation. For starters, massive concrete island effect in both.
Phx being in a valley that was frequently subject to atmospheric inversion kept air stale, stagnant, and hot m0unds: elevation is a big part of it brycec: YOU'RE A BIG PART OF IT! >.>
<.< m0unds: SO WHAT IF I AM? brycec: Dude, just fart less. :) m0unds: TOO MUCH HOT AIR OK? brycec: Oh you're just full of it m0unds: i sure am brycec: Anyways, yeah, it sucked.
But if you drove out of town, past the mountains, it cooled riiiight off m0unds: yeah
adiabatic lapse rate
couldn't remember the term brycec: @ud adiabatic lapse rate BryceBot: Error, No definitions could be found for: adiabatic+lapse+rate m0unds: http://meteorologytraining.tpub.com/14312/css/14312_47.htm brycec: Yeah you're just making shit up :P m0unds: hahahah brycec: tl;dr air cools as it rises? m0unds: yes
due to pressure
1C per 100m of elev change
appx
5.5F per 1kft brycec: Yeah. Just making sure I understood the point. (I do remember some chemistry, as it happens :p) m0unds: that site is ugly
dunno if chrome is just mangling the typography or what
but it looks like someone printed something then scanned it and shrank it brycec: Aaaand just looks creepy https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/matterandform/bevel-3d-photography-for-any-smartphone-or-tablet m0unds: wtf ***: dj_goku_ has joined #arpnetworks
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joepie91_ has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: someone's trying to take my nick with nickserv :( mnathani_: how do we know its really you, and they havent already succeeded? m0unds: mnathani_: that's a good point
how do we know it's really mercutio and not some imposter mercutio: you don't m0unds m0unds: OH NO
http://www.atelier.net/en/trends/articles/cyber-security-we-re-building-monster-connecting-all-these-devices_436827?utm_content=buffer03ab0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
whoops, wrong channel mnathani_: would the real mercutio please stand up
:-) meingtsla: *burp*