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| brycec | I seem to recall somebody mentioning that you couldn't do a Win 10 install, or maybe it was upgrade, without a Microsoft account. I am here to say that you can do both without even once being prompted for a Microsoft ID. | [03:00] |
| mercutio | you can't do insider program upgrade to rtm without msn | [03:01] |
| brycec | well that's not a scenario I can test easily :P
upgraded a Win 7 machine earlier, which obviously didn't have a msft ID associated. And just did a fresh install. | [03:01] |
| mercutio | yeah i had to shift to msn account
i was using it without for aegs. | [03:02] |
| brycec | And pleasantly I've got through the whole Win10 install without entering a key :) (I'm sure it will bitch later) | [03:02] |
| mercutio | but i was stuck on 10132 or something
nah there's no keys now somehow it identifys with your motherboard afaik though | [03:03] |
| brycec | (I mean the clean install) | [03:03] |
| mercutio | so if you change motherboard it'll stop working | [03:03] |
| brycec | heh, it's prompted a few times and I click "I'll do this later" or whatever | [03:03] |
| mercutio | and i've got it on i7-3770
so i may want to change motherboard at some point :( so what do you think of windows 10? | [03:03] |
| brycec | I really, really , really wish the backups weren't running right now. this is slow as fuck
(but they run in the middle of the night, a good time for backups generally) | [03:04] |
| mercutio | what backups? | [03:04] |
| brycec | at work | [03:05] |
| mercutio | oh ok
you're working? isn't it like 3 am? :) | [03:05] |
| brycec | yes, exactly
because fuck windows fuck it so hard | [03:05] |
| mercutio | i remember when people used to say that windows 95 was stable
and they never had any problems with it | [03:05] |
| brycec | (dealing with a smattering of issues, from Visual Studio to WSUS) | [03:05] |
| mercutio | there was like an uptime bug that hit after 47 days or something
hardly anyone used to hit it oh apparently it's 49.7 days oh it was on 98 too | [03:06] |
| brycec | I recently discovered the Win-I shortcut. that's made things much simpler. (it opens the control panel) | [03:09] |
| mercutio | have you tried win x?
i just use win-x, win-d, win-e and i start typing for things on control panel normally | [03:09] |
| brycec | what's win-x? | [03:10] |
| mercutio | it brings up a menu
which has command prompt, control panel, etc on it there's also win-r for run | [03:19] |
| brycec | yeah I knew the others, and obv win-r | [03:19] |
| mercutio | and for some reason i seem to accidentally do win-l too much | [03:19] |
| brycec | but -i and -x were new to me
i lock my screen all the time, on purpose | [03:19] |
| mercutio | i think windows key sticks in synergy or smoething | [03:20] |
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| hazardous | i really like how when installign w10
the eula says in bold if you're in the states, read the no suing us only arbirtration section then when it installs, i have to click customise settings and explicitly turn off 10+ things that are like "share location" "share wifi passwords" "auto connect to open wifi networks" all enabled by default | [04:54] |
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| qbit | oh snap - are all the dedi's sold out? :D
good problem for you guys :D | [06:58] |
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| staticsafe | saw some prefix withdrawal alerts for my v6 prefix announced here last night | [09:50] |
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| mercutio | hazardous: _optout_nomap | [10:17] |
| m0unds | hazardous: wow, 10 things? | [10:20] |
| mercutio | staticsafe: did they stay withdrawn? | [10:30] |
| staticsafe | nope | [10:30] |
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| mercutio | i wonder why bind9 is still so popular | [11:57] |
| m0unds | dunno
are there still systems that ship w/bind9 in base? | [11:57] |
| mercutio | yeh i think so
semi-mainstream news is reporting on the bind vulnerability :) | [11:58] |
| m0unds | gotta scaremonger as much as possible | [11:59] |
| mercutio | well it's been 15 years since it was widely known that bind is a bad idea
and bind9 did not fix the issues at least sendmail isn't common now | [12:00] |
| brycec | Mostly because sendmail was a beast to configure, not because security :P | [12:03] |
| staticsafe | I like BIND because of the excellent documentation and the feature
features* | [12:03] |
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| m0unds | so nice outside today | [12:31] |
| brycec | Sadly, our nice weather is at an end for now. 32C/90F here at noon, and the high's about 40C/100F
but for awhile, it didn't get about 23C/75F in the day, super pleasant | [12:32] |
| m0unds | uggghhhh
humid too? | [12:33] |
| brycec | Not really, 25% ish | [12:34] |
| m0unds | oh, that's good
still sucks temp wise since so many houses and stuff don't have ac | [12:34] |
| brycec | But a whole week of leaving the AC off, in the summer. Was glorious :D | [12:34] |
| m0unds | yeah, hahaha
mine ran a whopping 30 mins yesterday | [12:34] |
| brycec | Yeah but they're used to it. Or they buy window/wall/portable AC units | [12:34] |
| m0unds | but it was sub-70F this morning when i ran errands, and only just hit ~80 at 1300 | [12:35] |
| brycec | Nice :) It still hits 50/60 at night here at least.
(though earlier in the summer there was brief time it didn't get below 80F) | [12:35] |
| m0unds | yuck | [12:36] |
| brycec | pissed me off to not only leave the AC on (thermostat) all day and night, but dammit I moved away from Phoenix | [12:36] |
| m0unds | hahaha
was just thinking that's one of my least fav things about low elevation desert phx and las vegas - hot during the day and slightly less hot at night | [12:36] |
| brycec | Seems like that has much more to do with other aspects than just elevation. For starters, massive concrete island effect in both.
Phx being in a valley that was frequently subject to atmospheric inversion kept air stale, stagnant, and hot | [12:38] |
| m0unds | elevation is a big part of it | [12:38] |
| brycec | YOU'RE A BIG PART OF IT! >.>
<.< | [12:38] |
| m0unds | SO WHAT IF I AM? | [12:39] |
| brycec | Dude, just fart less. :) | [12:39] |
| m0unds | TOO MUCH HOT AIR OK? | [12:39] |
| brycec | Oh you're just full of it | [12:39] |
| m0unds | i sure am | [12:41] |
| brycec | Anyways, yeah, it sucked.
But if you drove out of town, past the mountains, it cooled riiiight off | [12:41] |
| m0unds | yeah
adiabatic lapse rate couldn't remember the term | [12:41] |
| brycec | @ud adiabatic lapse rate | [12:44] |
| BryceBot | Error, No definitions could be found for: adiabatic+lapse+rate | [12:44] |
| m0unds | http://meteorologytraining.tpub.com/14312/css/14312_47.htm | [12:44] |
| brycec | Yeah you're just making shit up :P | [12:44] |
| m0unds | hahahah | [12:44] |
| brycec | tl;dr air cools as it rises? | [12:45] |
| m0unds | yes
due to pressure 1C per 100m of elev change appx 5.5F per 1kft | [12:45] |
| brycec | Yeah. Just making sure I understood the point. (I do remember some chemistry, as it happens :p) | [12:45] |
| m0unds | that site is ugly
dunno if chrome is just mangling the typography or what but it looks like someone printed something then scanned it and shrank it | [12:45] |
| brycec | Aaaand just looks creepy https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/matterandform/bevel-3d-photography-for-any-smartphone-or-tablet | [12:48] |
| m0unds | wtf | [12:49] |
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| mercutio | someone's trying to take my nick with nickserv :( | [16:00] |
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| mnathani_ | how do we know its really you, and they havent already succeeded? | [16:20] |
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| m0unds | mnathani_: that's a good point
how do we know it's really mercutio and not some imposter | [16:38] |
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| mercutio | you don't m0unds | [17:05] |
| m0unds | OH NO | [17:05] |
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whoops, wrong channel | [18:52] | |
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| mnathani_ | would the real mercutio please stand up
:-) | [20:37] |
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| meingtsla | *burp* | [22:03] |
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