screw it, i think i'm going to update to rtm
it takes about an hour?
it can't fidn the new build :(
Is it just me or are a lot of the Windows 10 links on the micrsosoft website broken?
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http://www.windows.com/windows10upgrade
that link works for me
actually just finished upgrading my bootcamp windows install to 10 too
haha
Myself as well.
(re: working)
i really like the ui for edge, looks nice
mnathani_: they use akamai i think
so it could be cached in different locations working / not working
im actually liking windows 10
might start using this laptop more
i installed it in the end
because the normal update thing wasn't working
i reinstalled 7 on the 10TP and upgraded
i just ran setup.exe off the iso
why did you reinstall 7?
the 10TP was only an eval, to get full i had to reinstall and verify win7
weird
well you are stuck on insider program i think normally?
i dunno
no idea
nope
it's free
you can stop insidder builds it seemse
hm
*shrug*
got a nice clean install now anywho
yeah
i might clean install later
i can still only get 800mb/sec read on network with windows 10, but can get 1200mb/sec write
hah
im still suffering from lack of roaming
i kind of would rather tha other way around
i have no idea why it prefers the weaker AP in the study
apparently need to use a server version of OS to do rdma :(
did you remember to change your SSID?
you're meant to change your ssid to _optout_nomap at the end
so this new windows server is going to support http/2
hah yea good uses the _nomap
i cba w/ it any more
good?.. google
and windows uses _optout to not share your password for ssid with microsoft
and your contacts
i dont has any windows contacts
used some dumb address too
someon else using your ssid might
and all your neighbours get to see your ssid
meh
so if people start seeing it more and more
then maybe people will start caring
Sofa King Fast and Where Did I Park My WiFi
2.4GHz here is flooded with default SSIDs
heh
here it's liek tp-link and vodafone and blah
BTHub, TalkTalk, VirginMedia, Sky here
guest wifi that has an antenna outside is "Freeloaders Paradise"
xfinitywifi and HOME-____ here :(((
can pick that up at the pub on the corner, brillianyt
is it passwordless?
no
a friend over the back uses it, i use it at the pub and neighbours/guests can ask me to use it
do pubs there have wifi?
most of the time, but open
a handful actually incorperate wifi isolattion
i thought wifi isolation was the default
a lot of pubs use a BSkyB service called "TheCloud" which uses proper equipment, still open though
some use another by arqiva, which are and also egress filtered to hell
is performance better than 3g?
but then i've seen a few by private/unknown companies that have absolute lack of interest
meh
here in the city center, not really
isn't bt adsl really slow?
they are mostly hosted of ADSL
yea, around the city from 12-19mbit
oh
can get 4G on Vidafone and hit 30mbps
i thought it was usually like 5 or 6 km to exchange
12 to 19 megabit isn't too bad
exchange is close to city
townc enter rather
depends how big city centre is i suppose
small town really, but technically a city
ahh
yeh probably good then :)
my last place had OK ADSL, got 15mbps and was about 2.1km
also had eDOCSIS
yeah that's not normal
but they never upgraded to FTTC
15 megabit is good for 2.1km
you'd expect more like 11 or 12 megabit
but it depends how direct the route is etc
that was using an old (now defunt by looks) provider
BT equipment on same line was 10/11
you may use lower snr margins there too
we're stuck on 12db here
♥ my vDSL line though
definately faster than i need, which is great
vdsl having higher upload speed tends to make a bit of a difference
aye.. makes shaping a lot easier
always save 2/3mbit for ACKS, rest can do whatever and i will always be able to hit max download
was trying to explain to people on ADSL that if you saturate upload, you kill download (and ping times(
as soon as most people torrent or the like, they dont control upload and wonder why everything has slowed to hell
wtf
why are you saving bw for ack's
yeh the upload thing you can't really fix on adsl
also there is high overhead for small packets
depending on how many cells it uses up
ugh, i don't miss having adsl
vdsl is still high overhead
but it's lower
wouldn't know, it's rarely deployed anywhere in my city
i kind of miss header compression that worked
i suppose it doesn't matter that much now days
but it used to use liek 5 bytes for 40 byte tcp/ip headers
it wasn't insignificant...
which meant on dialup you could get by with having 296 mtu
where normally that'd be kind of getting up there with overhead
mercutio, well for return TCP (and TCP in UDP), that way all computers could max allocated upload but there be enough upload left for full downlink speed
it doesn't literally get saved for acks
oh
both routers cap upload to 15mbps, peaks to 17 when i download full speed (tcp)
not that i ever saturate either way for too long
could turn all shaping off and probably not notice a difference
i'm fine with just fq_codel
nothing special
im not 100% sure thats even working here
since im NATless, i don't think it's conntracking anything
what is the overhead on FTTC?
the tech supports minijumbos here, so can save 8bytes at least
is 76C hot for an E2200 when it's loaded out compiling stuff?
people keep telling me these CPU's shouldn't run that hot, but BIOS claims 86C is when it starts throttling and 100C when it clams right up
Core 0:       +73.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:       +71.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
grody: depends if it's dhcp or pppoe
76c is extremely hot for e2200
my i7-3770 runs cooler than that with no fan on heatsync
there's case fan though
and a huge heatsync
err i'm undervolting a little though
usually if it's that hot i'd suggest that hsf isn't mounted correctly or thermal paste not applied properly.
also in this modern age, you can replace an e2200 with e8400 cheaply and get like 50% boost in performance
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-SLB9J-Core-2-Duo-E8400-3-00-GHz-6MB-1333MHz-Socket-LGA775-CPU-Processor-/281702804346?hash=item4196cbab7a
they're pretty cheap on ebay..
has more cache, faster fsb, higher mhz
but it's still only dual core
hmm
PPPoE on this vDSL, but have an MTU of 1508 set (and being used), so no clamping MSS
yea, this e2200 is a little old and the rig is historic
yeh as router it's probably fine
got this 0.1v undervolted atm
why are you compiling on it? :)
i'm doing 1492 mtu for vdsl
nah, it's a media server - but i offloaded some compiling to it now it's got more RAM using distcc
i tried to do 1500, but can't seem to get modem to support 1508 mtu on ethernet :(
ahh
not many things can do the increased MTU
open does now, but required some fiddling the switch
on this thing
pfsense can't
why i run openwrt as the PPPoE client and then a pfSense
yeh it's the modem that gets in my way
modems shipped by wholesaler (mandatory) support it fortunately
did read a rumour they are going to force all in once solutions
s/once/one/
<grody> did read a rumour they are going to force all in one solutions
some ISPs do that, Sky hide the user/pass and made it difficult to pull, Virgin force use of their equipment and BT now with vDSL (and any provider providing the platform) have to use BT issued modems
damn
i hate all in one
haha: https://twitter.com/bmastenbrook/status/624726547400933376
TWITTER: To maintain security, we're going to train you to type your password into random modal dialogs periodically. http://t.co/n0FUtsqGNw (Fri Jul 24 23:43:10 +0000 2015, retweeted 820 times)
Your IRC session has expired
To maintain security, your IRC session periodically expires. To reconnect to IRC, type /msg gizmoguy_ username password
TIL me and m0unds share the same password
ahahahah
TIL mercutio is too literal
:)
you should use <username> <password>
i fell for it regardless
:O
I had no idea that my IRC session expired
why do you have a _ in your username anyway?
not sure..
hah on my normal irc both show up as the same colour even
it's my alt nick
you haven't registered gizmoguy
brycec: Congrats your IRC session is renewed. Enjoy the next 30 minutes of IRC entertainment
I used to have it registered
hahaha
now i do
yay
lol
but yeah you may want to register it
gizmoguy #juniper Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
that's why I couldn't be gizmoguy
no idea why I was banned on that chan
for not being registered
it happens when freenode has issues
ahh true
which is less often than used to be the case
there was a split last night though
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Thank you for verifying your e-mail address! You have taken steps in ensuring that your registrations are not exploited.
hah you guys can't exploit me anymore
emphesis on 'taken steps'
also
 This e-mail was sent due to a command from gizmoguy[~gizmoguy@2400:bd00:dead:beef::cafe]
you guys don't have as cool of an ipv6 address as me
now you guys can't exploit me anymore
sure i do
hey gizmoguy, nickserv here, what's your email address and password so i can verify it's actually you?
ipv6 is deprecated
Oh no. this was all a ploy so gizmoguy_ could steal people's passwords from their expired IRC sessions!
2607:f2f8:afa0::f00d:4:a11
grody: f2f8 i reckon is kind of cool
m0unds: gizmoguy@gmail.com lickmahb411z
my /48 @home is much funkier.. i have FB5D
verified! thanks for making freenode safer and stuff
Oh should I have done that in private? oh well
gizmoguy: your ipv6 address is too long
:(
my one of ::1 is much better
64 bytes from ::1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.027 ms
no place like ::1
wow. auckland is pretty close to my desktop these days
heh
64 bytes from ::1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.013 ms
64 bytes from ::1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.038 ms
have a slower link
gaming on it is pointless
i have cstates disabled i think
well the deep sleep ones
That's what she said!!
oddly, she did to some degree
why im rebuilding all my openwrts
15.04-rc3 grody?
running that on all my nodes at home
'tis good
i assume someone here used to read slashdot
 Chaos Calmer r46518
remember how slashdot always seemed to go into beowulf clusters
that goes back some
as if it somehow had some kind of relevance
CHAOS CALMER (15.05-rc3, r46163)
I'm a few hundred commits behind. oh well
git-15.208.34629
but why do you have multiple openwrt nodes gizmo
4.1.3 kernsl in this
well you see mercutio
I wanted some vlan trunks
can't your switch do that?
I couldn't make my mikrotik work how I wanted (i really hate their config format)
and I had spare tplink boxes lying around
ahh
i have some tp-links lying around
openwrt is quite epic for that
openwrt could be a lot better
can turn some routers into a fully managed switch
next job is running openvswitch on my openwrt boxes
what i really want to see is a nice distributed file system
and doing some openflow on my home network
doing VLANs with RouterOS is a PITA
so you can have decent packages available with hardly any nand
oh that reminds me
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/northboundnetworks/zodiac-fx-the-worlds-smallest-openflow-sdn-switch/description
throw some money at this guy plz
gizmoguy: 100 megabit
it should be sfp+ :/
$64
I've been chatting to him privately, and he has a gigabit one in the works
yeh idk.  if it was gigabit maybe
mercutio, ext.root on ext4 :P
but at 100 megabit what's it good for?
development
tinkering
maybe
when you have written your home sdn controller
he will have a gigabit one ready for you to buy
the bigger problem is it's only a 3 port switch
i suppose it is cheap
is that $64 USD?
plus like $15 postage or something
$64 AUD oddly enough
switch on these 841nd are gigabit and can switch to about 600mbps
oh that's not so bad
full port per port until you start maxing 3
grody: it should do line rate?
does it have paypal?
you can't get full switched speed when using all 5 ports in switch only
mercutio: kickstarter?
yeh
it caps at about 600
dunno, i just through my CC detailst heir way
threw even
yeah i don't trust my cc out in the open
i have only one atm
lets see
does it do pppoe?
looks like it's just credit card
better security with cc's here
vs. a debit card that is
mercutio: the zodiac board?
grody: i got blocked by some idiot doing fraud once.
gizmoguy: yeh
and it was a pita
so openflow doesn't really have PPP support yet
i've had id theft before
but the zodiac board has opensource firmware
took like a week to get a new credit card
so you could hack it in
hmm
i don't know what i can use it for other than having both my dsl connections going to it
i miss dual line
only have vdsl w/ hspa backup
mind you i'm at 100 megabit if i add up both lines.
only 100mbit :(
hah nice.. if i got another vdsl i could hit 160/40
hopefully it should go higher soon.
I'm 200/200 at home
gizmoguy: one's at 38.5, the other 61..
8b vs 17a
i want an edocsis line, but alas, not cable running this way
the 8b one has splitter and way more errors, the 17a one has no splitter, and way less errors.  go figure.
i want to figure out how to get rid of the splitter.
You looking forward to the new VDSL spectrum profile mercutio?
gizmoguy: yes!
the 17a profile is on 35 megabit max upload atm
I've had a couple trial VDSL lines for a while
it's pretty sweet
and so i should be able to get way more than 10 megabit up.
yip
I get ~40mbit up
on one of ours
but download wise i don't really care.
60 megabit is fine.
~80mbit down on the fastest VDSL line
im quite happy with +10mbps up
gizmoguy: how close are you?
80/40 would be sweet.
mercutio: there's about 10m of copper between our CPE and the ISAM :)
i wouldn't complain at that.
gizmoguy: oh.
it should be 30a then :)
gizmoguy: being in auckland, don't have ufb until 2019
because chorus.
it kind of sucks to be in a chorus area :(
i mean in theory i could move
but the areas that have ufb are really really expensive
except for henderson
and i wouldn't want to live in henderson.
come to hamilton
you work from home anyway ;)
heh
could be an idea.
it's an hours drive to auckland?
1d 13h duration, 3+ stops
Hamilton, Canada (YHM) to Auckland (AKL)
why does google think i want to fly from canada when i put it into google
1 h 48 min (124.6 km) via State Highway 1
damn 2 hours
George Hamilton?
hamilton is a city in new zealand
it's small like 100k people
so you're not likely to have heard of it
it's where gizmo lives
is it named after george hamilton?
it's named after the hamilton in england i imagine
http://a.images.blip.tv/Qtv-LaCageAuxFollesStarGeorgeHamiltonInStudioQ923.jpg
it's named after john hamilton
The settlement was founded on 24 August 1864 and named by Colonel William Moule after Captain John Fane Charles Hamilton,[10] the popular Scottish commander of HMS Esk, who was killed in the battle of Gate P??, Tauranga
apparently there are 140k peole living there now
mercutio: it didnt work in chrome, but worked fine in IE
any tips on updating a Surface pro 3 to windows 10
all my attempts have failed
I get the 'something happened' error messasge
oh there's a fix for that i think
s/messasge/message
<mnathani_> I get the 'something happened' error message
google "something happened" windows 10
oh hangon
i know how to fix that
download the iso
and then open iso and run setup.exe
you download that iso with that special tool thingy
http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/C/8/1C8BAF5C-9B7E-44FB-A90A-F58590B5DF7B/MediaCreationToolx64.exe
dunno if that link works or not
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
there was some utility i downloaded to upgrade my fresh win7 bootcamp install to win10 today
m0unds: probably that tool
I have a download link on that page, think its the same
mnathani_: yeh probably
i could look at download history for that though
i ran it on a fresh win7 install without a single update installed and it upgraded to win10
took about 10 mins
looking at web history is much harder :)
oh hangon something happens from that
when you don't make the iso
so of course you already have it duh
yeah so in that program create the iso, mount the iso, click setup.exe
hmm
was there just a network fart for a second or is it just me
yup
was it on ipv4?
looks like it
connection to a v4-only irc network took a dump, ipv6 seems to have stayed up
i was on a v4 ssh editing a config file when it happened
only reason i noticed, lol
yeh somethign seemed to happen
haha, that sucks
i blame gizmoguy
hazardous: were you in tmux / screen
nope!
at least nano dumped my config into a .save file when ssh exited
that was helpful
that was nice of it
ssh exited?
it should have recovered.
eeks nano
I thought most people use vim
i dunno, ssh dropped with broken pipe or something
(from terminal on a mac)
i use whatever i feel like using at the moment, usually vim, sometimes nano
ahh os x may retry less
mercutio: :(
i'm not really picky on text editors other than i'd prefer my text editor be a text editor, not an operating system that also implements a text editor
haha
how dare ye
looks like he.net's having issues
smokeping suggests there was any2ix issue