brycec: Well it varies, but there's a reason ICMP defines an unreachable code 10. (eg netflix01.ring.nlnog.net) kellytk: Would you consider one ping per minute insignificant? brycec: Probably. But that opinion is not shared by Netflix and their NLNOG node. ***: nesta has quit IRC (Quit: SIGQUIT) trobotham: mmm ***: nesta has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: kellytk: it really depends on the server
i imagine things like google and facebook are pinged a LOT kellytk: I'd think so mercutio: i had cogent block icmp echo tests once
it was damn annoying, as i was using the host for monitoring
actuallyi think it was the replies that were blocked, i forget
but to ip one different it was ok
it was making no sense at first
that was with steadfast.
and yeah nto using steadfast anymore
the weird thign is that changing the outbound path, where the responses so that it still routed via cogent, but a different cogent router made it work
i think that's what it was.. it was years ago, and i tcpdumped both ends etc.
but i assume that some providers do some kind of icmp rate limiting at times. kellytk: If it was cogent it probably wasn't ICMP that was blocked, rather the link was probably down
Or the packetloss was 80% mercutio: nah
tcp worked
just not icmp
and to an ip one different it was ok ***: Seju has joined #arpnetworks
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last month.. few
mercutio, why i like to use L2TP tunnels .. you can use the LCPs to graph a little more better
even if it;s just for connection monitoring
http://imgur.com/DAfpDRI ICMP wrapped in UDP from ARP to my AA in UK
need to tune RRD to declare 150ms as optimal ***: phlux has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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BryceBot, no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'e] [Vomit Face]"' grody: hate this tablet sometimes
wasnt even in this channel :-/ ***: mnathani has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: hahaha mercutio: hotw's that better than smokeping? gizmoguy_: mercutio: so I see another ISP bites the dust mercutio: gizmoguy_: woosh? gizmoguy_: yeah mercutio: did it really bite the dust?
or are they just dropping customers? gizmoguy_: we'll have like 3 left by the end of the year
sold all their customers to M4/callplus group mercutio: wow gizmoguy_: http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/m2-buys-wooshs-9000-customers-ck-p-176151 mercutio: that sucks.
it's paid content gizmo
i'm not paying $145 for 6 months gizmoguy_: yeah. my work pays :) mercutio: yeh it's cheaper for a business i think
well per person gizmoguy_: yeah we do have 2000ish employees mercutio: if it was somethign more reasonable i'd consider paying it, as there is some good stuff
i was never a fan of woosh anyway
i tried using it once, and it's like isdn speed :/
with huge buffer bloat, slow speeds, high ping gizmoguy_: yeah, the network engineer guy there was doing some pretty neat things though
they just had 0 money mercutio: they had plenty of money i thought
they were too early probably
so iw as reading about AU internet the other day
i been wondering if i should try moving to australia
as can't afford to buy houses here anyway.
well singular :/ m0unds: my wife works w/a doctor who's doing some work in NZ somewhere mercutio: but it really seems that australia is far behind nz with regards to internet
m0unds: how's she working with him if he works in NZ :) m0unds: he lives in the US, has a house in the US, and is temporarily working in NZ mercutio: i might have to find a doctor soon. they're turning smart drugs into prescription only :(
ahh i see. gizmoguy_: mercutio: australia is sooo bad for internet m0unds: but is in the US right now because the exchange rate is awful and makes 1/3 what he makes in the US in NZ gizmoguy_: mercutio: "smart drugs"? mercutio: gizmoguy_: oxiracetam, noopept
cognitive enhancing gizmoguy_: mercutio: yip NZD/USD is tanking so bad at the moment ( and it's intentional :( ) mercutio: gizmoguy_: it seems that vdsl in nz is way better than most internet in australia
the best you can get is like 100/40 on nbn fibre
which is available hardly anywhere
but even their cable is capped for upload below 10 megabit m0unds: yea, i think he said it was 1.00 NZ -> .60 US or something mercutio: its' .66 US i think
1 nzd to usd
oops
@exch 1 nzd to usd BryceBot: 1 NZD -> 0.657609196007 USD (as of Sun, 26 Jul 2015 16:01:02 -0700) m0unds: yea, .66 staticsafe: is up_the_irons on vacation? mercutio: staticsafe: he's in germany. staticsafe: ah mercutio: m0unds: i was looking at house prices in the US recently, and it's so much cheaper there than here.
actually, california is similar. but florida etc is way way cheaper. m0unds: CA is a joke, price-wise
way overinflated
the house i live in here in NM would easily go for $900k+
my uncle lived in a crappy 2 bedroom house in san mateo, CA outside of san jose and sold it for almost $700k at the height of the housing boom (~2005 ish) ***: m0unds_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) mercutio: m0unds: it's bad here too
shitty houses are like $800k BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: but most are for auction
actually this place looks ok for $700k
http://www.realestate.co.nz/2580952
but still seems mediocre at best.
although i think that house is in the shitty internet area. m0unds: lightning strike nearby tripped all my afci breakers. mercutio: damn m0unds: hear my ups beeping its head off mercutio: san mateo still looks expensive
i was using santa clara for my california reference. m0unds: yup, might be worse now due to all the derpy startups in bay area mercutio: santa clara doesn't seem that bad
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Santa-Clara-CA/pmf,pf_pt/19553873_zpid/13713_rid/featured_sort/37.464503,-121.615906,37.215018,-122.12883_rect/10_zm/ m0unds: ouch mercutio: if i assume 1 usd = 1 nzd it seems similar pricing to nz.
but salarys are more like 1 usd = 1 nzd anyway afaik m0unds: mine is twice the size od that, has a bigger lot and is 1/3 that price mercutio: yeh
well florida is like that for pricing too m0unds: yeah, fl is pretty inexpensive mercutio: yeah i kind of assumed florida would be expensive m0unds: co is more than nm but less than ca mercutio: so i was kind of surprised at the difference
i was looking in tampa though m0unds: lots of people are moving north to or and wa, and east to az, co and tx from ca mercutio: from what i understand of the US i'd probably rather live in or or wa than az, co, or tx. mnathani_: http://panam.cbc.ca/videos/live/video/cbc-pan-american-games-closing-ceremonies.html
Pitbull is presently performing in Toronto mercutio: it's near impossible for people in nz to move to the us though
i've got a friend who did, through a multi-national company.
and even then it took more than one application brycec: Don't forget Alaska. Nice and cool up there. m0unds: CO isn't terribly hot, but they get snow brycec: (Not that "lots of people" are moving there. But it's the next area of the world I think I'd like to live)
Snow++ :D m0unds: yea, i've heard lots of awesome stuff about alaska
especially if you like doing stuff outside
my friend's brother is in the USAF as a combat controller and got stationed up there in between deployments brycec: That's about all there is to do in Anchorage - be outside, do outdoorsy things. m0unds: yeah, that's fine by me
that's part of why i'm still in NM, because there's stuff to do outside
if i didn't live here, i'd probably move back to colorado brycec: Yeah CO aint bad either. I could conceive living there. (Though Denver traffic sprawls out and is generally awful) m0unds: yea, i'm originally from boulder and prefer north of denver
or southwest is nice (durango, telluride, etc)
durango's just 3.5 hrs from us, so we go up there pretty regularly brycec: Ah yeah, nice mnathani_: Some fireworks I recorded the other night - https://www.facebook.com/mansoor.nathani/videos/10153087048988546/?l=8693931352029030016 ***: mnathani_ has quit IRC ()