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| kellytk | Does anyone value being able to sign in to a website with your emailaddress in addition to the username? | [17:50] | 
| mercutio | yes | [17:50] | 
| kellytk | May I ask why? | [17:50] | 
| mercutio | i usually sign into web sites with email address well there could be a username clash adn then you have to use some annoying difficult username. | [17:50] | 
| kellytk | Do you use the same email address for this purpose? | [17:51] | 
| mercutio | like sometimes mercutio is taken :/ yeh i refuse to be a number! | [17:51] | 
| kellytk | Ok, so in essence it serves as your unique identifier. I get that, thanks mercutio | [17:51] | 
| mercutio | i am not a number, i am a free man. yeah most web sites these days use e-mali y'know you could probably just have e-mail hmm does level3 usually have issues between san jose and london? hmm it's find between los angeles and london | [17:51] | 
| kellytk | I personally like when sites support usernames. Does anyone else? | [18:06] | 
| mike-burns | I'm fine with usernames, but not as my login creds. | [18:07] | 
| kellytk | May I ask your reason? | [18:07] | 
| mike-burns | I can remember my email address; I cannot remember usernames. My email address is guaranteed unique. | [18:07] | 
| kellytk | I'm in the process of allowing both.  What I'm wondering is if usernames have become antiquated.  I've been away from web dev for nearly a decade What use do you see in usernames if not for login credentials? | [18:08] | 
| mike-burns | Honestly, not much. But I guess handles like on Twitter or Trello. Of the five or six Web apps I built for clients last year, 0 involved usernames and all involved email+passwd. That's my anecdote. | [18:09] | 
| kellytk | How many of them were content sites with user generated community? | [18:11] | 
| mike-burns | Two that I can think of. But one of them uses GitHub auth instead of email+passwd. GitHub, in turn, uses email+passwd. | [18:11] | 
| kellytk | How were their identities displayed to others if not by username? | [18:12] | 
| mike-burns | it showed their username. | [18:12] | 
| kellytk | Ok, so it seems the trend is moving away from usernames as auth credentials, and back to social handles | [18:12] | 
| mike-burns | Email+passwd for auth. Username for display. | [18:12] | 
| kellytk | Right | [18:12] | 
| mike-burns | It's like age or gender or whatever other profile data. | [18:12] | 
| kellytk | Thanks for your input mike-burns | [18:13] | 
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| mercutio | so i complain about packet loss on vultr, and they tell me that they've removed my smtp block | [18:57] | 
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| mnathani_ | mercutio: was your packetloss on port 25 by any chance lol? | [19:14] | 
| mercutio | nope :) icmp / ssh | [19:15] | 
| mnathani_ | what location? | [19:29] | 
| mercutio | uk london i need a new uk host i think | [19:32] | 
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