#arpnetworks 2015-07-11,Sat

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grodywhy i like routers w/ USB
chuck in an 8GB class 6 or better flash card and boom.. you're laughin 		[08:16]
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i called them up on that typo & they offered me the 10GB package half price for three month (7.50)
apparently it just went live as i was looking at it
only needed 5GB for two months.. but whatever
and extra 15GB for £1.50 		[08:37]
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phluxCan anyone recommend an image sharing CMS similar to imgur.com?
I want to host my own
but really only for my use 		[09:08]
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grodythe only thing i can think of is gallery2, but is probably overkill for your needs
has an XML API to upload images to it directly from phones/websites, imaging apps etc.
and can be done via the web browser too ofc
piwigo looks nice too
hrm, if im running ssh on a random port and do a large sftp transfer, is it rate capped at all? 		[09:32]
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brycecNo. 1) That rate cap you're thinking of is for connections, not data transfer. 2) That rule only matches 22/TCP. http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/main/is-there-a-firewall-filter-rate-limit-or-similar-device-applied-to-my-traffic [09:55]
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grodythat was fun
1:) forgot to finalise the PPPoE settings and 2:) had the static routes pointing down the wrong interface
3mins34s downtime
cheer brycec, i did remember reading it and to email - still 10mbit is fine transatlantic 		[10:48]
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oh wow thats impressive
actually rebooted the router quite a few times because 5GHz wifi went weird adding VAPs - and i didn't disconnect further 		[13:24]
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mercutiogrody: ssh kind of sucks for throughput
there's double windowing in there, so tcp/ip and ssh both have their own windows
that said 10 megabit still seems on the low side 		[15:51]
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kellytkReliable network communication was such an invaluable advancement [16:19]
mercutiowhat do you mean kelly? [16:20]
grodygot SQM working (codel) and also noticed pfSense has a Codel queue - be curious to see how this pans out [16:21]
mercutiosweet grody
it's fq_codel right? 		[16:21]
grodyi can select fq_codel on the openwrt.. but pfsense seems to only do codel [16:22]
mercutiomaybe they're calling fq_codel codel
there's a fair queueing and a non fair queueing version iirc 		[16:22]
grodyi think it's doing fq on pppoe (that is for sure) and the pfsense WAN (into openwrt) is codel
need to load the network now to test 		[16:23]
mercutioand it has a htb queue before the fq_codel on pppoe?
yeh load it :) 		[16:24]
grodynot sure tbh
there was only a few things to tinker with SQM 		[16:24]
mercutiojust test it then :) [16:24]
grodyahh, i see.. i can add new types
nah, only have PPPoE assigned atm 		[16:25]
mercutiopppoe doesn't usually limit bandwidth to connection speed
so it needs a queue before hand to limit the speed to what your modem or whatever can provide 		[16:26]
grodydone :>
now wtf to download/upload 		[16:28]
mercutiowindows 10 ? :) [16:28]
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grodyactually having difficulties maxing things out here
just started a few torrents for latest ISOs, even have a few intensive port scans going on (to increase state tables) and still have can't max this out
TV is netflixing, playing PS3 online, just did a VoIP call and still no sign im maxing 		[16:44]
mercutiohow many megabit are you doing? [16:46]
grodyit peaked to 76 [16:46]
mercutiowhat's your connection capable of? [16:47]
grodybut dropped a little to 60odd
79.7/19.9 sync 		[16:47]
mercutioyeh 76 is about your limit probably [16:47]
grodyget about 76/17 [16:47]
mercutiowith 61 megabit vdsl i can do about 57
is your ping staying ok? 		[16:47]
grodyyea i've capped the shaper off at 75/15
it fluctuated slightly, but pings have a high queue on the pfsense 		[16:47]
mercutioptm has higher overlead than ethernet still
but ic an't remember how it works 		[16:48]
grodywill check ISP CQM for LCP in a min
eek
looks like using codel on the pfsense has loaded it a tad too much 		[16:48]
mercutioi didn't even know pfsense had codel
just do codel on the upload?
rate limiting incoming traffic sounds so messy : 		[16:51]
grodyit doesn't show up in the shaper wizard, i was poking at the queues and saw it as an option, along with the usual PRIQ, CBQ, FAIRQ etc. [16:52]
BryceBotYER A WIZARD grody [16:52]
grodyheh
BryceBot, no 		[16:52]
BryceBotOh, okay... I'm sorry. 'thinking i should keep it on the pfsense' [16:52]
grodyhah wt [16:52]
mercutiohey bryce was funny
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=87931.0 		[16:52]
this cake thing sounds interesting
http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Cake
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grodyhttp://imgur.com/eQN1sbP,YiItfee#0
yea, codel is savagin my CPU
the former orange peak in CPU was using PRIQ at 60mbit/s 		[16:58]
mercutioweird i didn't find codel much cpu even with 10gbe+
i wonder if it's freebsd locking related
how many cpu cores do you have? 		[16:59]
grodyi have buckets/dummynet as well
this is an acient thing (replacement en route) 700Mhz Nehemiah
pure routing, it can cope with about 170mbps
once i've dabbled, about 84 		[17:00]
mercutioahh
so it's already borderline
it'd probably be faster with linux :) 		[17:00]
grodyyea
well, pfsense got real slow on this when they started using php-fpm 		[17:01]
mercutiodid you enable fastforwarding? [17:01]
grodynot yet.. there was a reason why i hadn't
oh wait.. that was the old rig 		[17:01]
mercutiodid you try intel ethernet card?
although at 100 megabit you shouldn't really need to have coalescing
there's also something to disable network random seeding or something
i dunno if pfsense does that already or what
but using a modern intel atom would make a world of difference anyway 		[17:02]
grodyhttp://imgur.com/llLPAOB
aye.. replacement is a duo2 2GHz
did look at atoms, but the prices were too high
least the LCP's didn't suffer too much, performance under load on the edge router is same as former 		[17:04]
mercutioyeh that'd be fien too
i bought i3-3220
i am waiting to hear from seller though 		[17:06]
grodythis nehemiah has served me very well for such low power [17:07]
mercutioi had one of those
i didn't really like it
via c3-700?
but it was completely fanless
no psu fan no cpu fan. but noisy psu :/ 		[17:07]
grodynot 100% sure tbh
aye, entirely fanless 		[17:08]
mercutiothe electrical noise from fanless psu's can be annoying [17:08]
grodythe replacement has a single fan [17:08]
kellytkmercutio: I mean packet send retry, transparent order preservation, that kind of thing [17:08]
mercutioyeah so does mine i think, hp 6300 sff [17:08]
kellytkTCP/IP in essence [17:08]
grodyyea, VIA C3 Centaur Hauls thing [17:09]
mercutiokelly: like zmodem etc? [17:09]
grodyhas padlock, so OpenVPN doesn't crap out CPU as much as it probably should [17:09]
kellytkmercutio: That's more application layer than I'm thinking, but sure
The ability to dump bytes on a wire and get them out on the destination in order, and despite packetloss, is what I'm specifically talking about 		[17:11]
mercutioi dunno lots of things do it [17:12]
kellytkYea, it's great [17:12]
mercutioqueueing has been a problem on tcp/ip for over 15 years. [17:12]
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brycecGee you don't have to sound so surprised about it :P 16:50:26 mercutio | hey bryce was funny [17:25]
mercutiowell i don't see that every day :) [17:25]
brycecPeople don't say wizard every day :P [17:26]
BryceBotYER A WIZARD brycec [17:26]
mercutioahh
for some reason i thought it was all the caps 		[17:26]
brycecTotally different trigger than all the twss stuff
(and I'll leave it as an exercise for the audience to discover them all) 		[17:27]
mercutiohmm apparently pppoe-ptm overhead is 27 bytes
it seems seems kind of high
s/seems/still/ 		[17:32]
BryceBot<mercutio> it still still kind of high [17:36]
mercutiooh i only wanted the first one fixed and i didn't do g :/ [17:36]
m0undsspam protection is still my fav so far, brycec [17:40]
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mercutiowhat's the spam protection one? [17:59]
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brycec(spam/flood/abuse)
mercutio: because PHP's PCRE implementation has /g hard-coded. If you need/want non-greedy, /1
(which is not a standard flag, but one I had to add so that the /g could be undone) 		[18:44]
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mercutiobrycec: how lame of php! [18:59]
brycec(http://php.net/manual/en/regexp.reference.repetition.php) [19:04]
mercutiostill still same still
s/still/once/1 		[19:16]
BryceBot<mercutio> once still same still [19:16]
mercutioso yeah the /1 works [19:25]
brycecOnce again, you don't have to sound so surprised that my code works :P [19:34]
mercutioheh.
yeh i suppose i'm pessimistic :) 		[19:35]
brycecYou're free to be pessimistic... about new features. /1 has been around for *years* and it's well tested. [19:43]
grodyhttp://imgur.com/fG1UljV,EpZk1T1,AZWyoGc,fm2xSC4#0
yea, deffo need a new core
it crapped the pfsense so much between 1 & 2 it couldn't graph everything 		[19:45]
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mercutioheh
grody broke something? :) 		[19:51]
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mercutiosweet getting two i3-3220s :) [20:02]
grodybrutal.. i kill the shaper on pfSense and it nuked WAN [20:05]
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mercutioyeah i figured you broke something :)
you know you want to just use linux :) 		[20:07]
grodyhaha no thanks
i have pfsense doing exactly what i need 		[20:07]
mercutioheh
their netowrk stuff is a bit behind
netgraph is kind of ick 		[20:08]
grodyyea it has its flaws [20:08]
mercutioi've had the heater on all day and it's still cold [20:08]
grodyi've had the cooler on all day and it's still 24C in here :( [20:09]
mercutioit actually says it's 20c in here
but it feels cold
@weather akl 		[20:09]
BryceBotAuckland International, New Zealand: Clear 50°F (10°C), Humidity: 71%, Wind: From the SSW at 4 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl [20:09]
mercutiothat's not even that cold [20:09]
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staticsafe@weather yyz [20:46]
BryceBotToronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Clear 75°F (24°C), Humidity: 61%, Wind: From the North at 6 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.67722321,-79.63055420 or re-request this with: @weather -v yyz [20:46]
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m0undsgeez
@weather 87114 		[21:14]
BryceBotAlbuquerque, NM: Partly Cloudy ☁ 64°F (17°C), Humidity: 77%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.198917,-106.747849 or re-request this with: @weather -v 87114 [21:14]
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brycecToday has been a glorious respite after a few weeks of 90F+ (32C+). I don't think today even broke 80F (26C), and it was grey and cloudy all day.
First day in a couple months that I could just leave the windows open all day comfortably.
@weather 99019 		[21:34]
BryceBotLiberty Lake, WA: Partly Cloudy ☁ 70°F (21°C), Humidity: 74%, Wind: From the East at 2.9 MPH Gusting to 3.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=47.666508,-117.100792 or re-request this with: @weather -v 99019 [21:35]
brycec(Yesterday, it didn't reach ^ that temp until 1am) [21:35]
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mnathaniare those underground links new? [22:00]
LOL : This site is best viewed in Internet Explorer 6.0 and above and Mozilla Firefox 3.0 and above. Screen Resolution = 1024 x 768. Browser Text Size = Medium. [22:05]
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mercutiodon't think so? [22:44]
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grodypeople still suggest optimal viewing for sites? [23:09]
brycecmnathani: the "For more details..." bit? Nope, not at all new. [23:17]
mercutioold site hasn't been updated i imagine [23:17]
brycecAccording to my logs, first appeared 1 June 2014 [23:18]
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