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s/\?\?/\? BryceBot: <mnathani_> does that mean another round of kvr host reboots? mnathani_: close enough brycec: (yeah, escaping is weird as it turns out)
(and difficult)
(the difference between escaping input vs escaping within the regex...) m0unds: s/e/potatoes BryceBot: You're a stinky cunt muncher, m0unds m0unds: lol
why thank you, BryceBot brycec: Yeah, it has flood prevention too :p m0unds: does it have a pool of insults or just the one? brycec: small pool m0unds: funny grody: so i finally caved in and got me a gigabit router/switch
only a cheapy thing to openwrt, but claims it can do 900mbps hardware nat
http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-9_TL-WDR3600.html .. 800mbps sorry mercutio: grody: that can't do anything like gigabit with openwrt
more like 150megabit i think
for wan/lan
but at least you can switch fast
the wireless ac ones have faster cpus m0unds: i think i paid like $75 for the one i bought my inlaws mercutio: that's about how much the ac ones cost now i think m0unds: yea, this one's the same one you have iirc
c7 mercutio: ahh yeh so they have ok cpu
sort of
i wish they were like 2 or 3 faster cpu :) m0unds: yeah, for what it's supposed to do
hahaha mercutio: i dunno, i want to do tcp/ip acceleration / retermination
i just use pc as router and router for bridging wireless m0unds: QCA9558 dual-band, 3-stream 802.11n SoC / Atheros AR8327 switch / 128MB DDR2 / 8MB Flash mercutio: nice
oh 802.11n? m0unds: that's in the C7 mercutio: yeh it's ac
why does it say 802.11n? :) m0unds: idk mercutio: 3600 is ar9344 it seems
hmm archer c7 has 16 mb of flash in v2
and qca9880
actually 9558 isn't much faster than 9344
there's 802.11ad chips from atheros now apparently
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Wireless-DW1601-QCA9005-8V256-WiGig-802-11AD-7Gbps-Half-Mini-Wireless-Card-/251802031092?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa09213f4
they're not even expensive to get mini pci-e cards!
werid that doesn't support ac or does it? m0unds: huh, dunno grody: mercutio, its more the wifi on it im hoping will be semi decent
just concerned open wont suffice and have to use dd-wrt (have seen a version for it) - will delicate it to pure bridge/switch then
delegate*
no need for ac atm
not all my devices do 5GHz yet mercutio: use gargoyle?
my cellphone doesnt' do 5 ghz
i was surprised even on single stream 2.4 it did 45 megabit speedtest
but newer devices seem to be taking more of the limited bandwidth grody: phones do, tablets do.. laptops don't
hmm
never seen that before mercutio: my laptop does about 250 megabit with udp i think
with 300 megabit max grody: usually build my own openwrt mercutio: cool
i should do that really :/ m0unds: my phone does 433mbit on 5ghz grody: yea, on similar hardware, dd wins hands down for wifi performance vs. open mercutio: openwrt is a pita on archer c7 m0unds: i think my macbook does too mercutio: my tablet does that m0unds
macbok may be 866 grody: on a wdr841nd i can get 96mbps wire speed off the wifi on 2.4GHz m0unds: 2012 vintage grody: openwrt i get abot 40
both forced HT40 too mercutio: grody: i had to use a different blob and dev oepnwrt to get 400 to 500 megabit/sec out of wireless ac on archer c7
where native does 600 megabit
that's bridging two together, so 1.3 gigabit line rate or whatever grody: nice mercutio: i got about that too grody
ie it was saturating the 100 megabit ethernet
oh i wonder where that device is :)
what i want to try is doing less acking
because wifi is half duplex tcp acking every second packet should impair performance grody: hmm, if 150mbps NAT on Open is about what'd it, what if it were pure routed? m0unds: i really hate that android's app backup stuff seems to be completely broken w/gapps accts mercutio: but in order to do that seemlessly need to do it on router :/ grody: PPPoE WAN to LAN no NAT, firewalling or QoS
(similar to what i do atm) mercutio: and terminating tcp session on router is slow
you'd have to try grody
i reckon 250 megabit is about your peak limit with tweaking grody: the 841nd handles the 79/19 easy mercutio: oh pppoe
well it's the same cpu as rb2011 i think grody: but i'd want the PPPoE WAN > Port1 > pfSense > Port2 > wifi bridge w/ VLANs mercutio: using recent kernel?
vlans are done on the switch afaiak grody: 3.18.14 mercutio: so no cpu overhead for them
yeh that shoudl be good
there was some improvements a while back grody: kept the stock firmware, as the wifi on that was quite amazing
laptop did 103mbps on 2.4GHz mercutio: 79 megabit is a lot easier than 300 megabit :)
i kind of wish they'd just stick 2 ghz cpu's in
and stop doing offload :/ grody: aye.. ideally this router will future proof me for FTTP (upto 300mbps)
heh yea
if USB etherner wasn't so w**k i'd use my pogoplug as a router.. 256MB RAM 1.2GHz CPU and can handle routed traffic quite well
that sits with a gigabit port, so bouncing back traffic through a VLAN would be doable
would need a smart switch though mercutio: i think the cpus are weak in cache
but like 100 megabit nat you can do on p75 :)
of course that's cisc..
and cpu speed seems to make a difference
err cpu mhz does
you can actually overclock some grody: http://pastebin.com/MW6LYLQf mercutio: i've never tried it just read about it grody: yea, 16kb L1 and 256KB L2 mercutio: but it seemed to boost throughput more than it should
ie it's cpu bound grody: this thing handles well for an old board mercutio: not bus bound or such grody: have one acting as a backup mail relay mercutio: is l1 cache 8k split data instruction?
i wonder how complex the forward path is on linux grody: L1 Data cache = 16 KB. 4-Way, 32 B/line.
L1 Instruction cache = 16 KB, 4-Way, 32 B/line..
http://www.7-cpu.com/cpu/Kirkwood.html mercutio: you'd think it could stay in l1 cache for forwarding
but hard to know grody: need to get a new thin/apu for pfsense too
so much stuff to choose from and getting something decent at a good price is hard mercutio: go second hand
i'm hoping to bid tomorrow on i3-2120
i want to shift my routing stuff off my server and stick dual ethernet card in it and plug straight into modems brycec: Why not OPNsense, grody ? grody: brycec, used it for 5+ years, i know it
have looked at bsdrp (or something) too
but meh
i've gotten to ♥ pfsense' quirks
hmm.. Dell-Wyse-R90L
has gigabit ethernet.. could simply bounce traffic back and force over port and tagged vlans
my neoware ca10 (ancient thing) can actually handle 122mbps routed and 75 (at least) NAT
can do 47mbps openvpn too
but it also routed traffic between two virtal wireless networks - and it gets kinda hot when everything is going on brycec: I've become rather disillusioned with pfSense's management and direction, but I like OPNsense and their fork of it. RandalSchwartz: so, I'm at a place that thinks that a shot of alcohol is about 6 oz, like it was a beer thing.
they charge 14 BRL for it, but that's about 3.5 USD
so I'm making out like a bandit
... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153078738704372&set=a.453592139371.245979.504874371&type=1&theater&notif_t=like grody: thats all alcohol, no mixer?
shot here is 25ml (double 50ml) - costs vary but for most things (decentish) start at about £3 (GBP) brycec: Viva Brazil, or something :p grody: although cheap pub here sells double grey goose for 4.05
free mixer RandalSchwartz: yeah
that's what makes it crazy mercutio: how much is 6 oz? :)
oh wow!
so how many shots did you do randal? :) RandalSchwartz: I had three drinks. I think that means I had 15 shots or so mercutio: heh
a shot is normally 60 mls here i think brycec: Sounds right, about 2oz mercutio: when you mix your own drinks i tend to find it means you start with like 1:5
and shift to like 1:1 RandalSchwartz: a shot is typically about 1.5 oz
heading to my room... hopefully internet active there. brycec: Good luck mercutio: in brazil?
actually that looks like more than 6 oz m0unds: seems reasonable to me mnathani_: does it make sense to create a FreeNAS Virtual Machine, with virtual disks residing on separate physical disks for the purpose of mirroring / RAID 10 redundancy. How difficult would it be to rebuild the RAID upon failure of one of the physical disks? brycec: Relatively few VM solutions support hotplugging disks, so that's an issue. You'd also have to rebuild the drive before you could feed it back into kvm/qemu/whatnot
ie. new partition table, recreate volumes/containers on it, files if necessary, etc m0unds: yea, i'd say that's something best left to the host box brycec: Or best left to pass through the physical devices -: brycec sits still and complies brycec: wrong channel >.> mnathani_: k
whats a popular disk i/o benchmark on windows
https://www.raymond.cc/blog/measure-actual-hard-disk-perfomance-under-windows/ found that<< but its 2 years old m0unds: that's the only one i've seen
there's another tool that maps out i/o latency
don't remember the name of it though
oh, there's also iometer, but it's hosted on sf
and sf is shady nowadays
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc742157.aspx there's also winsat mnathani_: https://gist.github.com/mnathani/9442e1e00e2ed32b89b6 BryceBot: Gist: "SSD Performance Benchmark - CrystalDiskMark 4.1.0 x64" ***: mnathani_ has quit IRC ()