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| m0unds | https://openssl.org/news/secadv_20150709.txt | [07:45] |
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| RandalSchwartz | oh great. another possible zero-day attack. :( | [08:08] |
| m0unds | yup | [08:10] |
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| mnathani_ | does that mean another round of kvr host reboots??
s/??/? s/??/? s/\?\?/\? | [13:07] |
| BryceBot | <mnathani_> does that mean another round of kvr host reboots? | [13:09] |
| mnathani_ | close enough | [13:09] |
| brycec | (yeah, escaping is weird as it turns out)
(and difficult) (the difference between escaping input vs escaping within the regex...) | [13:10] |
| m0unds | s/e/potatoes | [13:12] |
| BryceBot | You're a stinky cunt muncher, m0unds | [13:12] |
| m0unds | lol
why thank you, BryceBot | [13:12] |
| brycec | Yeah, it has flood prevention too :p | [13:13] |
| m0unds | does it have a pool of insults or just the one? | [13:17] |
| brycec | small pool | [13:17] |
| m0unds | funny | [13:17] |
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| grody | so i finally caved in and got me a gigabit router/switch
only a cheapy thing to openwrt, but claims it can do 900mbps hardware nat http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-9_TL-WDR3600.html .. 800mbps sorry | [15:09] |
| mercutio | grody: that can't do anything like gigabit with openwrt
more like 150megabit i think for wan/lan but at least you can switch fast | [15:12] |
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| the wireless ac ones have faster cpus | [15:36] | |
| m0unds | i think i paid like $75 for the one i bought my inlaws | [15:37] |
| mercutio | that's about how much the ac ones cost now i think | [15:39] |
| m0unds | yea, this one's the same one you have iirc
c7 | [15:40] |
| mercutio | ahh yeh so they have ok cpu
sort of i wish they were like 2 or 3 faster cpu :) | [15:40] |
| m0unds | yeah, for what it's supposed to do
hahaha | [15:40] |
| mercutio | i dunno, i want to do tcp/ip acceleration / retermination
i just use pc as router and router for bridging wireless | [15:41] |
| m0unds | QCA9558 dual-band, 3-stream 802.11n SoC / Atheros AR8327 switch / 128MB DDR2 / 8MB Flash | [15:42] |
| mercutio | nice
oh 802.11n? | [15:44] |
| m0unds | that's in the C7 | [15:44] |
| mercutio | yeh it's ac
why does it say 802.11n? :) | [15:45] |
| m0unds | idk | [15:45] |
| mercutio | 3600 is ar9344 it seems
hmm archer c7 has 16 mb of flash in v2 and qca9880 actually 9558 isn't much faster than 9344 there's 802.11ad chips from atheros now apparently http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Wireless-DW1601-QCA9005-8V256-WiGig-802-11AD-7Gbps-Half-Mini-Wireless-Card-/251802031092?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa09213f4 they're not even expensive to get mini pci-e cards! werid that doesn't support ac or does it? | [15:45] |
| m0unds | huh, dunno | [15:51] |
| grody | mercutio, its more the wifi on it im hoping will be semi decent
just concerned open wont suffice and have to use dd-wrt (have seen a version for it) - will delicate it to pure bridge/switch then delegate* no need for ac atm not all my devices do 5GHz yet | [16:00] |
| mercutio | use gargoyle?
my cellphone doesnt' do 5 ghz i was surprised even on single stream 2.4 it did 45 megabit speedtest but newer devices seem to be taking more of the limited bandwidth | [16:02] |
| grody | phones do, tablets do.. laptops don't
hmm never seen that before | [16:07] |
| mercutio | my laptop does about 250 megabit with udp i think
with 300 megabit max | [16:08] |
| grody | usually build my own openwrt | [16:08] |
| mercutio | cool
i should do that really :/ | [16:08] |
| m0unds | my phone does 433mbit on 5ghz | [16:08] |
| grody | yea, on similar hardware, dd wins hands down for wifi performance vs. open | [16:08] |
| mercutio | openwrt is a pita on archer c7 | [16:08] |
| m0unds | i think my macbook does too | [16:08] |
| mercutio | my tablet does that m0unds
macbok may be 866 | [16:08] |
| grody | on a wdr841nd i can get 96mbps wire speed off the wifi on 2.4GHz | [16:09] |
| m0unds | 2012 vintage | [16:09] |
| grody | openwrt i get abot 40
both forced HT40 too | [16:09] |
| mercutio | grody: i had to use a different blob and dev oepnwrt to get 400 to 500 megabit/sec out of wireless ac on archer c7
where native does 600 megabit that's bridging two together, so 1.3 gigabit line rate or whatever | [16:09] |
| grody | nice | [16:09] |
| mercutio | i got about that too grody
ie it was saturating the 100 megabit ethernet oh i wonder where that device is :) what i want to try is doing less acking because wifi is half duplex tcp acking every second packet should impair performance | [16:10] |
| grody | hmm, if 150mbps NAT on Open is about what'd it, what if it were pure routed? | [16:11] |
| m0unds | i really hate that android's app backup stuff seems to be completely broken w/gapps accts | [16:11] |
| mercutio | but in order to do that seemlessly need to do it on router :/ | [16:11] |
| grody | PPPoE WAN to LAN no NAT, firewalling or QoS
(similar to what i do atm) | [16:11] |
| mercutio | and terminating tcp session on router is slow
you'd have to try grody i reckon 250 megabit is about your peak limit with tweaking | [16:11] |
| grody | the 841nd handles the 79/19 easy | [16:12] |
| mercutio | oh pppoe
well it's the same cpu as rb2011 i think | [16:12] |
| grody | but i'd want the PPPoE WAN > Port1 > pfSense > Port2 > wifi bridge w/ VLANs | [16:12] |
| mercutio | using recent kernel?
vlans are done on the switch afaiak | [16:12] |
| grody | 3.18.14 | [16:13] |
| mercutio | so no cpu overhead for them
yeh that shoudl be good there was some improvements a while back | [16:13] |
| grody | kept the stock firmware, as the wifi on that was quite amazing
laptop did 103mbps on 2.4GHz | [16:13] |
| mercutio | 79 megabit is a lot easier than 300 megabit :)
i kind of wish they'd just stick 2 ghz cpu's in and stop doing offload :/ | [16:13] |
| grody | aye.. ideally this router will future proof me for FTTP (upto 300mbps)
heh yea if USB etherner wasn't so w**k i'd use my pogoplug as a router.. 256MB RAM 1.2GHz CPU and can handle routed traffic quite well that sits with a gigabit port, so bouncing back traffic through a VLAN would be doable would need a smart switch though | [16:14] |
| mercutio | i think the cpus are weak in cache
but like 100 megabit nat you can do on p75 :) of course that's cisc.. and cpu speed seems to make a difference err cpu mhz does you can actually overclock some | [16:16] |
| grody | http://pastebin.com/MW6LYLQf | [16:17] |
| mercutio | i've never tried it just read about it | [16:17] |
| grody | yea, 16kb L1 and 256KB L2 | [16:17] |
| mercutio | but it seemed to boost throughput more than it should
ie it's cpu bound | [16:18] |
| grody | this thing handles well for an old board | [16:18] |
| mercutio | not bus bound or such | [16:18] |
| grody | have one acting as a backup mail relay | [16:18] |
| mercutio | is l1 cache 8k split data instruction?
i wonder how complex the forward path is on linux | [16:18] |
| grody | L1 Data cache = 16 KB. 4-Way, 32 B/line.
L1 Instruction cache = 16 KB, 4-Way, 32 B/line.. http://www.7-cpu.com/cpu/Kirkwood.html | [16:18] |
| mercutio | you'd think it could stay in l1 cache for forwarding
but hard to know | [16:19] |
| grody | need to get a new thin/apu for pfsense too
so much stuff to choose from and getting something decent at a good price is hard | [16:21] |
| mercutio | go second hand
i'm hoping to bid tomorrow on i3-2120 i want to shift my routing stuff off my server and stick dual ethernet card in it and plug straight into modems | [16:23] |
| brycec | Why not OPNsense, grody ? | [16:26] |
| grody | brycec, used it for 5+ years, i know it
have looked at bsdrp (or something) too but meh i've gotten to ♥ pfsense' quirks hmm.. Dell-Wyse-R90L has gigabit ethernet.. could simply bounce traffic back and force over port and tagged vlans my neoware ca10 (ancient thing) can actually handle 122mbps routed and 75 (at least) NAT can do 47mbps openvpn too but it also routed traffic between two virtal wireless networks - and it gets kinda hot when everything is going on | [16:28] |
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| brycec | I've become rather disillusioned with pfSense's management and direction, but I like OPNsense and their fork of it. | [16:47] |
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| RandalSchwartz | so, I'm at a place that thinks that a shot of alcohol is about 6 oz, like it was a beer thing.
they charge 14 BRL for it, but that's about 3.5 USD so I'm making out like a bandit ... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153078738704372&set=a.453592139371.245979.504874371&type=1&theater¬if_t=like | [17:33] |
| grody | thats all alcohol, no mixer?
shot here is 25ml (double 50ml) - costs vary but for most things (decentish) start at about £3 (GBP) | [17:42] |
| brycec | Viva Brazil, or something :p | [17:43] |
| grody | although cheap pub here sells double grey goose for 4.05
free mixer | [17:43] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah
that's what makes it crazy | [17:44] |
| mercutio | how much is 6 oz? :)
oh wow! so how many shots did you do randal? :) | [17:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | I had three drinks. I think that means I had 15 shots or so | [17:53] |
| mercutio | heh
a shot is normally 60 mls here i think | [17:53] |
| brycec | Sounds right, about 2oz | [17:53] |
| mercutio | when you mix your own drinks i tend to find it means you start with like 1:5
and shift to like 1:1 | [17:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | a shot is typically about 1.5 oz
heading to my room... hopefully internet active there. | [17:54] |
| brycec | Good luck | [17:56] |
| mercutio | in brazil?
actually that looks like more than 6 oz | [17:56] |
| m0unds | seems reasonable to me | [18:07] |
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| mnathani_ | does it make sense to create a FreeNAS Virtual Machine, with virtual disks residing on separate physical disks for the purpose of mirroring / RAID 10 redundancy. How difficult would it be to rebuild the RAID upon failure of one of the physical disks? | [20:30] |
| brycec | Relatively few VM solutions support hotplugging disks, so that's an issue. You'd also have to rebuild the drive before you could feed it back into kvm/qemu/whatnot
ie. new partition table, recreate volumes/containers on it, files if necessary, etc | [20:32] |
| m0unds | yea, i'd say that's something best left to the host box | [20:32] |
| brycec | Or best left to pass through the physical devices
brycec sits still and complies wrong channel >.> | [20:32] |
| mnathani_ | k | [20:36] |
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| whats a popular disk i/o benchmark on windows
https://www.raymond.cc/blog/measure-actual-hard-disk-perfomance-under-windows/ found that<< but its 2 years old | [21:09] | |
| m0unds | that's the only one i've seen
there's another tool that maps out i/o latency don't remember the name of it though oh, there's also iometer, but it's hosted on sf and sf is shady nowadays https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc742157.aspx there's also winsat | [21:12] |
| mnathani_ | https://gist.github.com/mnathani/9442e1e00e2ed32b89b6 | [21:23] |
| BryceBot | Gist: "SSD Performance Benchmark - CrystalDiskMark 4.1.0 x64" | [21:23] |
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