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relrod_ is now known as relrod grody: there are the built in options dump & restore which can simplyfy file system backps across a network
havent used them much myself, but they are quite effective awyeah: Yeah I've used those on my box locally here, but only to play with. Maybe I should give them another look grody: aye, just remember to run them through SSH tunnels though (iirc they dont have network crypot built in)
crypto*
i've long deployed a different strategy now where i use ezjails.. i can fresh install and dump the jails back in a short space of time.. save so much hassle
in the outer OS, use as little as possible - that way you really only have one folder to backup awyeah: that's a really good idea
all my web stuff is in an ezjaiul.
ezjail.
But my database, dns, mail, that stuff is on the main box.
basically, other than mail, anything that accepts incoming connections from the world gets jailed. mercutio: WOW
microsoft donated to openbsd. grody: sweet
do remember reading they had lecci bill issues earlier this year
glad my electric costs aren't that much brycec: Not only that, but a *Gold* contributor
aka "More than Google" heh mike-burns: I put everything in git repos, then back up ~git using tarsnap. awyeah: hmm that's an interesting strategy mike-burns mike-burns: ~% ls ~git | wc -l
53 awyeah: that's a lot of repos brycec: You think 53 is a lot? lol...
(ie. "that's so cute") grody: hah
never thought of using git for backups
reminds me.. got to pull a large backup transatlantic for an upgrade (which is going to nuke my setup again)
bloody heck my mail servers reject an awful lot of connections (mostly RBL based rejects) mercutio: brycec: i saw it said gold, but couldn't see anywhere what that meant brycec: mercutio: more than $25.000.
(assuming you're talking about the MSFT donation to the OBSD Foundation) mercutio: cool well it looked like that was how much it used to cost them normally
err more than
and now they hav lots of money :/ brycec: Don't ever let that discourage you from donating though. There will be a time when the corps don't donate and they'll rely on their bank mercutio: although i'm sure they prefer to sepend more of it :)
yeh there was bank stuff before
err spending of previous mone
y
shit i need my coffee :) awyeah: I have often thought of using git for etc folders. brycec: There's git-annex too which tracks the changes, but doesn't store the files themselves. awyeah: interesting
So can you still go back to previous revs? brycec: That's my understanding mercutio: you can always just add some files to it
you don't have to track everything.. just do backups for things that don't change?
but yeah if you store /etc/passwd everywhere you may be reducing your security
well /etc/shadow
i like keys over passwords anyway
wow, another 0 day flash exploit awyeah: right that's true.
But I could .gitignore passwd and master.passwd mercutio: @weather akl BryceBot: Auckland International, New Zealand: Overcast ☁ 45°F (7°C), Humidity: 66%, Wind: From the South at 13 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl mercutio: that's much warmer than it feels :) brycec: To be fair, with such a breeze it's going to feel much cooler than that.
a la "windchill" awyeah: I've been to AKL
nice airport. mercutio: awyeah: location of the airport sucks :)
there's like nowhere good anywhere nearby
ever since android 5 my phone seems to have charging issues
but it never feels very warm awyeah: oh
well I never left that airport
it was just a connection on my way to Wellington. mercutio: yeh
i haven't been to wellington airport actually RandalSchwartz: the hotel bar here in Porto Alegre is selling "shots" of Smirnoff Vodka for about $4.50 US (14 Reals).
Except, I don't think they know what a shot is. I'm getting a largish glass filled with what I estimate to be 3 to 4 shots each time.
so I'm getting 4.5 to 6 ounces of decent vodka for that price... in a hotel. awyeah: That's a pretty good deal. BryceBot: That's what she said!! awyeah: have them give you some cranberry juice with your 'shots' RandalSchwartz: cannot consume cranberry juice
has nothing useful for me
well, maybe minor micronutrients
but the macronutrients overshaodw hazardous: i enjoy cranberry juice, but only small amounts at a time
not for nutrients. just the taste BryceBot: That's what she said!! RandalSchwartz: yeah. I've learned that "just the taste" can kill me, slowly. mnathani_: mercutio: check out this image on your 4k monitor when you get a chance and let me know what you think : http://mnathani.com/uploads/2015-07-08_panorama-take2.jpg
Its a view out my apartment RandalSchwartz: Yeah - I just paid $15 USD for about 2/3 of a Smirnoff Vodka bottle, and I'm in a hotel. mercutio: it looks pretty coool the colours suck though
wow it looks so much sharper on 4k than 1440p
heh i just got tinted glasses, a few pairs, so now i'm trying with different tints
amber tint seems to make it look more defined.. mnathani_: if you zoom in to the top left area, you should see the cn tower mercutio: whem i zoom in it's really soft BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: there are a lot of trees
hmm amber tints make my white levels on my two monitors look totally different mnathani_: I should do another one in the fall mercutio: but normally i don't notice RandalSchwartz: I dated a girl named Amber Tints once... mercutio: i need to fix my colours i think
are you using HDR?
i was curious if 10% yellow tint would make any noticable difference to comptuer use RandalSchwartz: That doesn't look HDR mnathani_: dont think so RandalSchwartz: the whites are blown out mercutio: yeh that's what i thought RandalSchwartz: the darks also mercutio: i think that's why i thought colours looked bad
i'm used to HDR for big pictures :) RandalSchwartz: typical 5 to 7 f-stops
just a pano mnathani_: this one was done with a simple point and shoot RandalSchwartz: nice pano though mnathani_: tripod helped RandalSchwartz: heh... all of mine have been hand-held
but with pano assist
no wait... the early ones all just "doing it" mnathani_: what do you use to stitch the images? RandalSchwartz: trying to find the seattle skyline that I did with a pano
something on flickr brycec: Neat, mnathani_ mnathani_: brycec: thanks
Here is a 2 minute timelapse as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qw7SNrWtY BryceBot: YouTube video: "2 Minute Clip - View From 20th Floor in Toronto ON" by Mansoor Nathani RandalSchwartz: canadian... is it in metric? brycec: And now I have mnathani_'s address (shy of the apartment number, though that wouldn't take long to "brute force") mnathani_: lol brycec brycec: (It's what I do, I solve puzzles) mnathani_: a simple whois would have revealed that information if you were so inclined brycec: @postal M3A3K7 BryceBot: M3A: North York (York Heights / Victoria Village / Parkway East), Ontario, CA brycec: give or take.
(it was easy since I knew the general city, and Rothman's sign+building is so clearly visible) mercutio: heh when i was a kid i used to love stalking people
i grew up a bit and realised that some people might find it intrusive :) brycec: Sure sure. mercutio: err by stalking i mean finding out their details etc without asking them
even if i could have easily asked them it was more fun to find out by alternate means brycec: I agree, it's borderline-creepy :) But it's just a puzzle for me. mercutio: yeah ditto :) brycec: Right, exactly. mercutio: it went out of fashion
it's back in fashion now with facebook etc though brycec: ha mercutio: like if you have open facebook profile and do a job interview don't be surprised if they check it out brycec: I definitely do a quick, cursory Google looking for other work, red flags or commonalities.
Sadly there's no challenge in finding me, since I have some federal licenses that are publicly searchable and required to have my address mercutio: yeh apparently it's really common with low paying jobs now
they check peoples facebook profiles to see if they are disreputable.
(higher turnover etc, more difficult employees etc i suppose) staticsafe: hello mercutio: hi static staticsafe: sup mercutio: nm staticsafe: exercising the power of my new GPU mnathani_: I doubt IRC is very taxing staticsafe staticsafe: heh mercutio: heh
i've hardly tested my new gpu brycec: mnathani_: Clearly you've never run retroterm mercutio: i got one a while back staticsafe: but seriously 6GB of VRAM -: staticsafe drools mercutio: i have 4gb vram brycec: hawt BryceBot: That's what she said!! brycec: I have 2GB :/ mercutio: i played tomb raider
got bored of it quickly staticsafe: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uferyoyydo9d4fu/2015-07-08%2013.40.52.jpg?dl=0 mercutio: but it looked pretty, i was blown away BryceBot: Dropbox photo: "https://www.dropbox.com/s/uferyoyydo9d4fu/2015-07-08%2013.40.52.jpg?dl=0" mercutio: i didn't have any recent games. i mostly play dota :/
i have no disk space for games atm :(
getting a new ssd
does that work in linux?
last i knew nvidia sucked with linux :( staticsafe: nvidia is great on linux mercutio: like it can't boost the clock rates etc. staticsafe: well mercutio: no fan control
oh i only want to use open source drivers heh
my linux box has radeon 7750
which is sort of ok
it was the best fanless card could get
there may be a better one now though
and on windows 980 can ramp the fan down at low load? staticsafe: yeah thats a common feature mercutio: i mean off heh
yeh my r9 290 is pretty quiet at low load
actually it's pretty quiet all the time really
surprising given how power hungry it is staticsafe: hrm GPU-Z can't read the sensors on this thing for fan speed mercutio: my fan speed is 20%
but gpu is only 36c
i wish it could spin slower :/ staticsafe: 57 C mercutio: that'll be fanless then
it probably isn't doing the fan at all atm staticsafe: yeah hold on lemme increase the load mercutio: my core clock / memory clock are going up/down csontstaly
like 20 times/second
i wonder if that's good for it :/ staticsafe: mercutio: you were right
that is somewhat impressive mercutio: that's about how hot my 7750 runs
oh it's up to 63c atm
linux has weak power gating support
i really do thing for most desktop linux users intel hd is the way to go :)
so is it good for the video card to constantly bounce between 150 and 1300 mhz
for memory speed staticsafe: not sure how that is an issue
its not constantly jumping mercutio: unstable load on power supply
it's constantly jumping for me
like more than 10x a second staticsafe: o_O mercutio: and the power demand is jumping too staticsafe: my card is idling at 202.5 Mhz memory clock mercutio: https://weallsee.net/r9-290.png staticsafe: that sounds like a bad driver mercutio: it's normal amd driver :/ staticsafe: mercutio: your load is also spiking it seems mercutio: yeah probably chrome
hah
closing chrome fixed the load issue, but it's still bouncing staticsafe: I have GPU acceleration disabled in Chrome and FIrefox because its buggy in both mercutio: weird power draw is more constant now even with memory clock all over the place. m0unds: staticsafe: yeah, hw acceleration is horrible in chrome mercutio: chrome isn't a very good web browser
but none of them are :)