#arpnetworks 2015-07-04,Sat

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mercutiohmm, openbsd is removing sudo from base [03:44]
mike-burnsThey might write their own replacement. [03:44]
mercutioo
it just seemed pretty major
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mike-burnshttp://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/out-with-the-old-in-with-the-less - "doas", they're calling it. [03:44]
mercutioi half read that on undeadly
although it was mostly about nginx of what i saw
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mike-burnsThe issue is that the sudo in base in old; moving it to packages allows them to update it more often. [03:45]
mercutioahh i see a paragraph i missed
i'm not sure why nginx was removed from base.
it just seemed it was hardly in base for any time before beign shifted to their own httpd..
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mike-burnsThey didn't feel that they were able to maintain it well enough to keep it in the src tree. [03:46]
mercutiooh i did half read about doas
becuase i remember copying sudo privilege code..
i don't like the name doas :(
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mike-burnsNor do I. [03:47]
mercutioi'd prefer dosu even [03:47]
mike-burnsOr fuckit(1). [03:48]
mercutiohaha
i like fuckit
that's a nice name.
i use the word FUCK in my code when i've got hacked stuff put together that i need to fix
so i can quickly notice it again
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mike-burnsIt's like using "very" when writing an article. [03:49]
mercutiohaha
you search through finding very
to fix it?
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mike-burnsHeh yeah. [03:51]
mercutiook with using the word very
err i'm ok with
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mike-burns"Substitute 'damn' every time you're inclined to write 'very'; your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be." - Mark Twain [03:52]
mercutio"it's very easy to miss" is better than "If you are not careful it could be easy to miss" to me. [03:52]
mike-burns"It's trivial to miss" is better. [03:52]
mercutiohmm.
depends how abridged you're being.
i prefer easy to read over condensed myself.
which makes me more of a fan of more conversational style writing.
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mike-burnsIt definitely depends on the audience. [03:53]
mercutioyeah
i found that out with the old in with the new post hard to read..
hmm it seems slightly easier to read on the blog instead of undeadly
oh wow it highlights sudo is moving to ports
yeh
i'll read blog next time :)
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mike-burnsI recommend it! [03:56]
BryceBotThat's what she said!! [03:56]
mercutiohmm undeadly needs to change paragraphs to have two lines betewen them
and not be as wide, and use better colours
the blog works well :)
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mike-burnsI'm sure they would consider a CSS patch. [03:57]
mercutiohmm
i wonder how many people read undeadly
i read it quite frequently, but i never comment..
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mike-burnsAt least two, including you and I. [03:58]
mercutioit's not actually using css
and they're using gif's
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mike-burnshttp://undeadly.org/undeadly-src.tar.gz - you found the source, I assume. [04:04]
mercutionah just looked at the code on the site
all the colours etc are hardcoded
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brycecAs I recall, undeadly also goofed on the title too
of tedu@'s post, they said "in with the new"
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ydorgi've noticed an odd pattern of port scans, like, the automatic background noise
in UK, i get hit and probed by china a lot
in the US, i get hit by the US a lot :/
are US peeps prone to attacking their own, as i rarely see UK hits on either
or is it there is generally more people in the US infected and seem to be targeting fellow neighbours
my snort even thwarted what appeared to be a positive hit for nimba on my US site... which i thought VERY odd
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m0undswhen i cared, i saw china, brazil and russia the most
but i don't care now so i don't look. ssh is firewalled and only allows incoming connections from a whitelist
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ydorgoh i dont care as what is probed for is always never open
its just curious to see a difference
err, s/open/closed/
i dont even run ssh on standard ports, and i still apply sshbbrute/ipfw enforcement
only stuff on standard is what is needed, http/smtp(s)
and i tend to get spammed about portscans when the port hit from a single IP hits more than 100 ports in 1 min
or some timeline around that
hmm.. always never open..
its been a long, hot day
@weather sou
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BryceBotSouthampton International, United Kingdom: Clear 63°F (17°C), Humidity: 59%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=50.94987869,-1.35853004 or re-request this with: @weather -v sou [13:38]
ydorgoh, it's cooled.. a lot
peaked to 28C today .. and i dont even have the home anywhere close that in winter
18C is perfect (anything over is too warm(
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m0undsthat's about my fav outdoor temperature
early spring here usually
@weather 87114
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BryceBotThere are 2 weather alerts in effect for your area! There is a Flash Flood Warning. There is a Areal Flood Advisory.
Albuquerque, NM: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 87°F (30°C), Humidity: 35%, Wind: From the South at 2.0 MPH Gusting to 4.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.190845,-106.741302 or re-request this with: @weather -v 87114
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ydorgmy phohe overheats, so do i.. we both ♥ shade lol [13:41]
m0undshahaha
we had a few days of 43-45C (atypical for my area) and it made a lot of our trees really unhappy
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ydorgyea sod that amount of heat
the ambient temp in my flat atm is 22C
it's not good as i have a lot of emdebbed stuff running 15C hotter than normal
mad how such little shift in ambience can cause a dramatic increase on other stuff
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RandalSchwartzweather pdx
@weather pdx
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BryceBotThere is 1 weather alert in effect for your area! There is a Heat Advisory.
Portland International, OR: Partly Cloudy ☁ 95°F (35°C), Humidity: 26%, Wind: From the NW at 3.1 MPH Gusting to 6.9 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=45.620087,-122.579346 or re-request this with: @weather -v pdx
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RandalSchwartzheat! [14:44]
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m0undsgeez
hope the people on their fixies are keeping well hydrated. no one likes hipsters with heatstroke
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [15:00]
RandalSchwartzyeah... it's been a solid heatwave for the past few weeks. [15:01]
m0undsyou have AC? [15:01]
RandalSchwartzsad because my apartment has no central A/C... just a window A/C that can't cool it all. [15:01]
m0undsoh damn
that sucks :/
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RandalSchwartzyeah, so I'll probably go to restaurants all day tomorrow just to get ac
and by restaurants I mean "bars"
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m0undssounds good to me [15:03]
RandalSchwartzmonday I am heading to Porto Alegre
should be a bit cooler there
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m0unds@weather 87114 [15:08]
BryceBotThere is 1 weather alert in effect for your area! There is a Areal Flood Advisory.
Albuquerque, NM: Overcast ☁ 74°F (23°C), Humidity: 54%, Wind: From the West at 4.0 MPH Gusting to 10.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.190845,-106.741302 or re-request this with: @weather -v 87114
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RandalSchwartzAreal?
like a real area?
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mike-burns@weather Stockholm, Sweden [15:10]
BryceBotStockholm, Sweden: Clear 66°F (19°C), Humidity: 68%, Wind: From the SE at 5 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=59.36527634,17.89777756 or re-request this with: @weather -v Stockholm, Sweden [15:10]
m0undsyea, they draw a box and say "this area"
http://www.wunderground.com/US/NM/519.html
the box w/the lbu in Albuquerque
66 sounds nice
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mike-burnsIt's nice here.
It's the city's weekend of nice weather. It happens once a year.
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RandalSchwartzlike the one week a year that portland isn't raining
except... that's now more like a few months
anyone who says global warming is a myth need to visit portland at random
in short, we are screwed
the weather is f**cked
and the climate change deniers need to be shipped off this rock somehow
or at least have Faux News disabled on their cable box
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m0undsnnnnooooooooooooo
doomed to a fate worse than drowning in rising seas
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mercutiom0unds: more flooding? [15:32]
m0undsyea, pretty much guaranteed to have some level of flooding every time it rains
this is more towards tohajiilee
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mercutiobecause pipes are blocked up? [15:33]
m0undsnah, because the ground doesn't absorb rain
not quickly anyway
so you just end up w/tons of surface water til it flows into flood control structures
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mercutiooh i thought the dirt would have got a bit softer by now [15:42]
m0undsnah, it needs to rain continually for a while for that to happen
it usually rains for an hour, maybe two and in the afternoon or early evening
temps are high enough during the day and it rains in the late afternoon so most of the water has slowly absorbed or evaporated by the time it starts raining again
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mercutiowoot, ubuntu is finally fixing their default of "don't boot if the previous boot fails; just hang in grub" [18:40]
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https://blogs.aws.amazon.com/security/post/TxCKZM94ST1S6Y/Introducing-s2n-a
amazon are doing their own tls replacement
err implementation
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