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| brycec | wtf... is this even a valid rDNS? monitor.instavps.net.104.36.199.in-addr.arpa
199.36.104.84 is the IP that resolves to it | [12:34] |
| mkb | looks to me like somebody forgot the . at the end of the PTR entry | [12:35] |
| brycec | heh
brycec is trying to debug why a customer on their network is getting horrible download speeds from his service Full speed from ARP and another datacenter (IO Networks, Phoenix). But shit speed from my home Comcast, from Hostdime in Orlando, FL, and from a datacenter in North Carolina brycec is collecting mtr's, whee | [12:37] |
| mercutio | brycec: it'll be some peering dispute probbably. | [12:53] |
| brycec | heh
And I *just* closed the doc with all the mtr's so I can't speak too smartly on it But there was one node in the route (in sjc) that was common to most bottlenecks. And also all transit from gtt. | [12:54] |
| mercutio | there were like 3 cables cut in california the other day too | [12:55] |
| brycec | (not all bottlenecks had sjc, but all routes through sjc were bottlenecked) | [12:55] |
| mercutio | the sabotage thing | [12:55] |
| brycec | yeah. crazy vandalism | [12:56] |
| mercutio | it sounds like it's most likely malicious
rather than vandalism | [12:56] |
| brycec | I consider vandalism malicious,.. | [12:56] |
| mercutio | ahh i think of vandalism like drunk kids smashing letter boxes | [12:56] |
| brycec | And that isn't malicious? | [12:56] |
| mercutio | still malicious, but not nearly as premeditated.. | [12:57] |
| brycec | @ud malicious | [12:57] |
| BryceBot | malicious: Malicious is another word for bad. Usually used to describe a virus. See also:rmenacing <2006-02-27T00:00:00+00:00> Example: "WITH:r1#: heyr2#: hir1#: have u downloaded 'pwnage free website maker'?r2#: no thats got malicious code in it!rWITHOUT:r1#: heyr2#: hir1# have u downloaded 'pwnage free website maker'?r2#: no thats got a virus!" | [12:57] |
| brycec | lol | [12:57] |
| mercutio | whereas sabotage is much more on purpose | [12:57] |
| brycec | sabotage is directed
vandalism is just malicious for the sake of being malicious at least, that's my definition | [13:01] |
| mercutio | yeh
that's how i see it too but it's been called vandalism in news a bit | [13:05] |
| mike-burns | For the lulz. | [13:07] |
| mercutio | you think? | [13:12] |
| mike-burns | mike-burns shrugs | [13:12] |
| brycec | brycec thinks. about things. and stuff. | [13:13] |
| mercutio | heh
have you tried tcptrace btw brycec .. you were saying about performance issues to some locations.. | [13:13] |
| brycec | technically "from" | [13:14] |
| mercutio | and sometimes it's hard to do testing between dodgy location and dodgy location.
err from a dodgy location.. no ... the dodgy location is in between coffee, work! | [13:14] |
| brycec | I got it down to 3 hops, from their equipment to their datacenter's speedtest, it was dog slow. | [13:14] |
| mercutio | so you can tcpdump and run traceroute on it | [13:15] |
| brycec | So I closed that as "the provider is throttling you, not my problem" | [13:15] |
| mercutio | ahh | [13:15] |
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| easymac | 5
grr | [13:49] |
| brycec | 6
yay "vandalism" http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/california-fiber-optic-cable-vandalism-continues-unabated/ | [13:53] |
| BryceBot | Ars Technica: "California fiber optic cable vandalism continues unabated" | [13:56] |
| brycec | "...the bureau has discovered "no real motive" for the cable cutting." | [13:57] |
| mercutio | that doesn't mean there's no motive | [13:57] |
| brycec | Just that they haven't been able to piece one together, I know. | [13:58] |
| mercutio | it just seems like they're underplaying it | [13:58] |
| m0unds | lots of telecom vandalism like that is perpetrated by former employees | [13:58] |
| mercutio | i was reading a while back about how the US doesn't want to increase taxes on gas. | [13:58] |
| brycec | If The World understood how fragile everything was, they would (or should be) panicking non-stop. | [13:58] |
| mercutio | and they've got no money to repair bridges, etc.
and they've been trying to find money with no luck but the gas tax hasn't increased even to keep in line with inflation, as the voters don't want to pay more | [13:59] |
| m0unds | a big part of the issue w/that is that gov agencies don't want their budgets cut | [13:59] |
| mercutio | and no-one wants to become unpopular... | [13:59] |
| mike-burns | It's the gray aliens cutting the cables. | [14:00] |
| m0unds | mike-burns: you're not supposed to talk about Them | [14:00] |
| brycec | m0unds: I see that as one of the biggest issues overall. Nobody ever wants their budget cut, even if they don't need it. So at the end of the year they burn through whatever leftover budget they have so it's not cut next year, and might even be increased. | [14:00] |
| mike-burns | Oh shi | [14:00] |
| brycec | December was always a good month for telecom equipment sales ;P | [14:00] |
| m0unds | brycec: yep, having worked for tribal gov i got to see that on a smaller scale every single year
it was awful | [14:01] |
| brycec | Now if those greedy fuckers would quit that, we could start making some progress on this debt
brycec rages | [14:01] |
| m0unds | every november, buy stupid shit we don't want or need so we can deplete our budget. if we don't, they might cut it | [14:01] |
| mercutio | but i think usually we're meant to have no idea how much work goes into power, water, roads, internet etc | [14:01] |
| m0unds | then they stopped asking me to find stupid stuff to buy and transferred it to travel and sent people to vegas for no reason and our budget got cut :) | [14:01] |
| mercutio | m0unds: damn. | [14:02] |
| brycec | lol m0unds | [14:02] |
| mercutio | m0unds: i don't think that's uncommon though | [14:02] |
| m0unds | it's not at all | [14:02] |
| mercutio | i've heard of people who have no budget for stationery etc too | [14:02] |
| m0unds | we had to beg for stuff like canned air
or printer paper | [14:02] |
| mercutio | so it can go both ways..
oh, so they had money left in their budget because they wouldn't let you buy anything? | [14:02] |
| m0unds | because they wouldn't let me order stuff like that w/our money because they always felt it was the division's budget who should cover office supplies
they wouldn't let me buy equipment, so we ran really lean w/spares and stuff they'd let me buy non capex stuff like tools or whatever | [14:03] |
| mercutio | peoples attitudes towards things like office supplies is a good way to judge how well things are functioning i reckon | [14:04] |
| m0unds | but no switch gear or spare disks or anything like that | [14:04] |
| mercutio | because it's a small cost overall really, and it shows willingness or not whether to allow things through in a timely manner
m0unds: a server is a tool right? :) | [14:04] |
| brycec | so is this "external hdd" | [14:05] |
| m0unds | nah, it was based more on $ amount | [14:06] |
| brycec | Oh, so not all tools either then | [14:06] |
| m0unds | no, they let me buy anything that was a tool | [14:06] |
| brycec | eg: $150 lineman's set vs $150 external hdd | [14:06] |
| m0unds | it was stupid
vs $50 SSD yeah i couldn't buy spare ssds but i could buy retarded things like..cable analyzers $1800 so backwards, that place it seems the tribal casinos who have a corporation running their business enterprises tend to do somewhat better in managing money like, organizationally speaking | [14:06] |
| mercutio | heh | [14:09] |
| m0unds | updated osx on my mbp and it seems that disk access is significantly slower now for some reason | [14:10] |
| mercutio | ssd or hdd?
maybe ssd needs a refresh | [14:18] |
| m0unds | ssd
i'll probably do it w/the next osx release just tested it and it benchmarked within spec. meh. | [14:19] |
| mercutio | maybe it's some sync thing | [14:27] |
| m0unds | could be, don't know
boot was horribly slow and it was terribly slow to open a disk image to install the doxie client one really nice thing about it being hot is that even with my AC set conservatively, it feels downright amazing to come back indoors | [14:37] |
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| mercutio | heh, i kind of feel that way about having heater on inside and going outside
come back in and it's much warmer than when you left.. | [15:04] |
| m0unds | yeah
just had a sweet microburst w/thunderstorm 75+ mph winds for 2 mins or so | [15:11] |
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| m0unds | haha, great. lost about 1/3 of the northern facing part of my roof to that thunderstorm, lol
peeled it right off and threw it in my front yard | [16:23] |
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| brycec | oh shit that really sucks | [16:50] |
| m0unds | yeah, i went out front to make sure i didn't have tree damage and there was a pile of shingles
seems like it only really impacted people w/2-story houses. there's a couple houses up the road from me who had new roofs installed in the last 2 yrs who have more extensive damage than me no fun at all | [16:51] |
| about to get another round - would have loved to go up and place a tarp up there, but there's too much lightning atm | [16:59] | |
| brycec | Ooh fun
And good luck | [17:00] |
| m0unds | thanks, hahaha | [17:03] |
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| mercutio | m0unds: do you often get short thunderstorms like that?
sounds insane :) no time to prepare and all | [23:36] |
| m0unds | desert thunderstorms are usually like that | [23:36] |
| mercutio | ahh | [23:37] |
| m0unds | hit really hard, dump tons of rain really fast, cause flooding | [23:37] |
| mercutio | i've seen rapid rain before, but it's usually quite light but a lot of it
so just a bit of surface flooding rather than damage | [23:37] |
| brycec | @wiki flash flood | [23:38] |
| BryceBot | Flash flood :: A flash flood is a rapid flooding of geomorphic low-lying areas: washes, rivers, dry lakes and basins. It may be caused by heavy rain associated with a severe thunderstorm, hurricane, tropical storm, or meltwater from ice or snow flowing over ice sheets or snowfields. Flash floods may occur after the collapse of a natural ice or debris dam, or a human structure such as... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash%20flood | [23:38] |
| m0unds | ^ | [23:38] |
| brycec | ^^ what m0unds lives with, and what I grew up with
fun stuff | [23:38] |
| m0unds | every afternoon during monsoon season = flash flood watches or warnings | [23:38] |
| mercutio | it was the wind rather than the rain that was damaging though, right? | [23:39] |
| m0unds | right | [23:39] |
| mercutio | the motorways here don't have good water clearance
it's bloody annoying so whenever there's a lot of rain quickly, there's a lot of water lying on the road, and people drive too fast and trucks tend to spray it up | [23:39] |
| m0unds | it's enough of an issue in my county that there's a flood control authority whose only duty is to handle what they call arroyos
sort of like big-ass canals that channel flood waters into the rio grande | [23:39] |
| mercutio | what country are you in? | [23:40] |
| m0unds | county - bernalillo county, new mexico, usa | [23:40] |
| mercutio | i saw pictures of the tidal wave in japan after the earthquake a few years back
that was insane oh and thailand had insane flooding ahh,.. i kind of thought the US was mostly pretty dry and that flooding/flash storms etc were more likely in islandish countries | [23:40] |
| brycec | Here's a pic from a couple years back, mercutio http://watchdog.org/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/09/flash-flooding-krqe.png | [23:41] |
| mercutio | uhh
that looks menacing | [23:41] |
| m0unds | yeah, that's hitting a bridge pylon along interstate 40 | [23:41] |
| mercutio | is that some kind of river thing normally | [23:41] |
| m0unds | san mateo bridge
no it's dry hahaha | [23:42] |
| mercutio | ok | [23:42] |
| m0unds | it's a flood control canal | [23:42] |
| mercutio | the other side is dry
ahh ok | [23:42] |
| m0unds | when it rains, they fill with water | [23:42] |
| mercutio | i see
very dirty water.. | [23:42] |
| m0unds | yeah, it's a desert | [23:42] |
| brycec | (Matching news story http://watchdog.org/105990/after-a-long-drought-rain-pounds-new-mexico/) | [23:42] |
| mercutio | hah it stuck the ) on the end
confused the poor little web site | [23:43] |
| m0unds | http://binged.it/1GTFJhv | [23:43] |
| BryceBot | http://binged.it/1GTFJhv -> http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=pvhjnr63hwqc&lvl=19.56&dir=342.16&sty=b&q=i40 and san mateo&form=LMLTCC | [23:43] |
| m0unds | that's the canal in the photo | [23:43] |
| mercutio | two years of drought wow
so the ground is all hard and can't absorb water? | [23:43] |
| m0unds | right | [23:44] |
| brycec | yep, because dry | [23:44] |
| m0unds | http://www.amafca.org/media/floodphotos/TruckinNDC.jpg | [23:44] |
| mercutio | sheit | [23:44] |
| brycec | Could be worse, m0unds http://i.azcentral.com/i/b/c/4/L169_CIFRcdeda899cabeb2cb13ea2734d82bc4cb.jpg | [23:44] |
| mercutio | i dunno if i'd rather be in or out of the truck | [23:44] |
| m0unds | whoops | [23:45] |
| mercutio | i imagine in is probably a "little" safer | [23:45] |
| brycec | (http://archive.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/free/20130915phoenix-man-new-mexico-flooding.html ) | [23:45] |
| m0unds | ouch
poor elephant butte | [23:45] |
| brycec | to be fair, that was T or C, NM ;P | [23:45] |
| mercutio | 10 inches of rain, wow
1" is bad enough for me :/ | [23:46] |
| m0unds | yeah, that was the summer that our transformers at work flooded and blew up a bunch of my gear
haha | [23:46] |
| brycec | lol the pie chart at the bottom http://www.srh.noaa.gov/abq/?n=prepawaremonsoonflashfloods
(I lol because it's stupd but true) | [23:46] |
| m0unds | lol
ahahahah the "drove car into water" omg | [23:47] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [23:47] |
| brycec | I remember the news reiterating that point so. many. times. do NOT. It is usually deeper than you think, etc | [23:47] |
| mercutio | yeh | [23:48] |
| brycec | And drove into water --> swept away in vehicle very eassily. | [23:48] |
| mercutio | usually people walk first | [23:48] |
| m0unds | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC3fwdmJkSk | [23:48] |
| BryceBot | YouTube video: "North Diversion Channel August 13, 2014 - AFD Deployment" by Albuquerque Metro Arroyo Flood Control Authority | [23:48] |
| mercutio | if they're trying to get into their home or something
and people mark it if driving through, you follow someone else | [23:48] |
| m0unds | timelapse shows how fast it fills | [23:48] |
| mercutio | don't try to shfit around people etc. | [23:48] |
| brycec | Yeah no kidding m0unds. All of a sudden a wall rushing in | [23:49] |
| m0unds | yeah, it's wacky - most of the flood control stuff in the city dumps into that particular channel
it empties into the river in northern abq | [23:49] |
| mercutio | look how few are from structural failure
that's what i'd worry about haha but your'e more likely to just get flooding coming into your house and lose electricity and not be able to get stuff dry and have everything go mouldy the cleanup must suck i'm on a hill, i dunno what i'm worried about :) | [23:49] |
| m0unds | yeah, the people who are dumb and build on a floodplain end up with their house filling with mud | [23:51] |
| brycec | The hill giving way?
mercutio: I'll point out that the temps are usually 35C+ so it's AC lost too. "and lose electricity and not be able to get stuff dry" | [23:51] |
| mercutio | oh
so it's humid too and sticky | [23:53] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [23:53] |
| mercutio | yeah i think erosion here is unlikely | [23:53] |
| brycec | Yeah. Real gross without AC, and life-threatening. | [23:54] |
| mercutio | that said, the drains at the bottom of my driveway are all screwed
they're taking ages trying to fix them i couldn't use my driveway the other day i'd just be stuck at home :/ do they have ads on tv saying to not drive into the water? when there were earthquakes in my old city the roads got heaps of holes in them, and people kept driving by rivers was extra dangerous. because often near rivers you've got underground rivers too... | [23:54] |
| brycec | Yes indeed, probably. (I seem to recall there were, but it's been quite a number of years since I watched TV commercials.) | [23:58] |
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