#arpnetworks 2015-06-29,Mon

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brycecThey're coming for us/our market! https://blog.linode.com/2015/06/16/linode-turns-12-heres-some-kvm/ [10:24]
m0undshaha, yeah - they've had kvm in beta for a while [10:26]
brycecAnd now it's public [10:26]
m0undsyup
as of 2 weeks ago i guess
m0unds doesn't really follow linode
[10:27]
brycecOh yeah just saw the date
I follow http://lobste.rs/
[10:27]
m0undsi only knew about the beta because my buddy was happy about it
ah
[10:27]
brycec(and it hit there today) [10:29]
m0undsyeah, saw it in the list [10:30]
brycecnow I feel silly for announcing it. [10:30]
m0undsfunny
it was news to me
[10:30]
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pyvpxbrycec: you has invite for lobste.rs? [12:19]
brycecpyvpx: yeah. PM me your email address
(I also have a buttload of invites for keybase.io if anybdoy cares)
[12:20]
grodyeek you too!
lol
seems to be a common thing now those
[12:20]
m0undsyeah, i can't find anyone who wants keybase invites
the only people i know who use pgp are already on it
[12:21]
brycecEveryone I know and care about already have a keybase account
exactly
[12:21]
grodyhehe
grody is a lone wolf
i tend to collaberate with a little more anonimity
General Distrust seems to command my life, maybe i should get a new job
[12:21]
brycecbrycec reports to Major Lazer [12:23]
grodysharks with frikken lazurs on their heads...!
im nursing a pigeon chick atm.. mother threw it out of nest and tried to kill it
so im gonna raise it, teach it to be a messenger pigeon
gonna be cool
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m0undssomeone hit my wife's car in a parking lot. they were nice enough to leave a note, but state farm is doing their best to make it as annoying as possible to get the damage repaired. [12:41]
brycec<-- this is my unsurprised nick [12:43]
m0undsoddly enough, i've had good experiences w/other insurance companies
my wife and i are unlucky with car stuff
so i've had more than my fair share of claims through others' insurance cos :/
[12:44]
brycecfor what little it's worth, I've had good experiences with GEICO through two accidents.
(was rear-ended at a stop light, and then I lost control and went sideways into a tree)
[12:46]
m0undsyeah, i was hit by a driver w/geico and they were good
oh, that sucks
[12:47]
brycecSnow is fun :) And snow tyres are not miracle workers, you can still lose traction when you swerve. [12:47]
m0undsyeah, for sure
i have a set of blizzaks for my truck
[12:47]
brycecI mean, they're fantastic and very useful. But they don't fix stupid :p [12:48]
m0undsright
state farm is the other driver's car - we use encompass, and they've been pretty good (integrates auto and homeowners into a single policy)
err car ins carrier
[12:48]
brycecAhh [12:50]
m0undswas your wreck up in WA? [12:51]
brycecThe snow one, yeah.
The rear-ending was in AZ
[12:52]
m0undsoh, durr
i thought that was one accident
m0unds is dumb
that you were rearended and lost control into a tree
[12:52]
brycec"through two accidents" :P [12:53]
m0undsyeah, i realize that now, lol
hahahah
[12:53]
brycecBut I see how my language could be confusing without that context [12:53]
m0undsyer words r confusin [12:53]
brycecThe snow accident was me trying to avoid sudden wildlife (in other words, DEER!)
The rear-ending was me minding my own damn business at a red light
That was a fun, easy case because my insurance company could hear the woman bawling and apologizing and it was all her fault, etc)
[12:54]
m0undstexting or something? [12:56]
brycecSupposedly marital issues had her distracted. [12:56]
m0undsah [12:56]
brycecMaybe not as "bad" as texting and driving, but certainly up there on the scale of times you shouldn't be driving. [12:57]
m0undsyeah [12:57]
brycecI guess she would've run the light if I weren't in her way. [12:57]
m0undsmy friend bought a new jeep in nov or december and got rear ended by a texter within a week of buying it
car was new enough that the body shop had a hard time getting parts so they had it for like 2 mos
[12:58]
brycecThat sucks. [12:59]
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kellytkHas anyone had experience running both Smokeping and collectd with the ping plugin? [13:34]
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brycecon the topic of Smokeping, just noticed these in my logs: FPing: Got fping output: 'ICMP Unreachable (Communication Administratively Prohibited) from 38.104.139.202 for ICMP Echo sent to netflix01.ring.nlnog.net (198.45.56.12)'
Apparently Netflix got tired of their nlnog node being ping'd
I didn't even realize that was a flag one could set.
(I admit, I haven't studied ICMP packet headers :p)
[14:39]
kellytkI haven't seen that before either, thanks for sharing it brycec [14:50]
staticsafehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol#Control_messages [14:55]
BryceBotInternet Control Message Protocol :: The Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP) is one of the main protocols of the Internet Protocol Suite. It is used by network devices, like routers, to send error messages indicating, for example, that a requested service is not available or that a host or router could not be reached. ICMP can also be used to relay query messages. It is assigned protocol number 1. ICMP differs from transport protocols such a [14:55]
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grodyi sometimes send odd ICMP back when certain things are requested [15:16]
brycecOh? Time to fuzz grody's firewalls and routers! [15:16]
grodyyou could modify the ping app to use the admin porhib as the reply and graph that
brycec, generally WAN facing i blackhole.. locally i send odd things so i can tell if the it's the actual host replying or some NAT or the like
[15:17]
brycecAh, cool :)
(I wasn't actually going to take the time to fuzz anyways :p)
[15:18]
grodylol
trying to figure out why mint keeps breaking it's IPv6
it'll SLAAC.. be usable for a few hours.. then just stop working
[15:18]
m0undssounds like android too [15:22]
grodyonly see it on 4.4.4+
my JB dual sim phone has rock solid IPv6 (even over OpenVPN)
[15:22]
m0undsconsidering how broken vpn support was on nearly every 4.4.x branch, i guess you have a golden egg
if you had an openvpn tunnel w/no ipv6 and you connected to it, it was dumb enough to not remove v6 routes, so every bit of ipv6 traffic would escape the vpn
assuming local ipv6
[15:23]
grodyhave a small zte kis 3 running 4.4.2 which seems to be good with SLAAC (no idea for openvpn) [15:24]
m0undsand then on 5.0+ and 5.1+ ipv6 is completely broken, which is awesome since GCM is available via ipv6, which means you regularly don't receive any messaging that happens to use GCM [15:24]
grodythe dual sim is 4.1.2, so yea.. before things broke
ugh yea.. am no liking lollipop at all
[15:24]
m0undsi hate android in general, it's a mess [15:25]
grodyam poking an M preview build atm
still have a 2.2.something (last GB)
the apps i've kept on it work (and had to remove most of googles crap)
thats pretty solid
admittedly i've been looking at windows phones
[15:25]
m0undsi miss WP
a lot
i used a lumia 920 for 2 years, but had to switch to an android device because of work related stuff
my wife is still using hers
she had an HTC one x that shit the bed, like every other HTC device she'd ever owned, so i got a refurb 925 and gave her the 920 and she's been using it since
[15:27]
grodyother half has some oldish HTC 620 i think
pretty run of the mill but it seems pretty sturdy
her parents have lumia 920's
or 950's.. i can't remember
but they were pretty nice to use
[15:29]
m0undsyeah, they're smooth and have nice mobile cameras
and good displays, ui runs at 60fps all the time
[15:30]
grodyah, 640's [15:31]
m0undsah, that's one of the new ones
good value for the $
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-4967.php
that's what my wife has, cyan colored
[15:31]
grodyyea i been looking.. but i wont go other £200 for a new phone
am still quite happy with this M2
this was a £160 phone and was half expecting it to be pure crud
[15:33]
m0undshaha [15:33]
grodythis is the oddest thing ever
my laptop on this wifi access point can't actually establish reliable TCP connections (or UDP flows) with a laptop connected to the other wifi ap
both are on the same broadcast domaint oo :/
[15:38]
brycecBut both can establish reliable flows/connections with their respective AP's? My first suspect is always the wireless connections themselves. [15:41]
grodythey seem to do anything but talk with each other
other devices on each one talk
take my device into the study, it roams onto that AP and it works
oddest thing ever
grody goes to bed
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kellytkDelay variation appears to be more technically precise than jitter [17:49]
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acf__m0unds: I just bought a Lumia 1020
super nice so far
[18:04]
m0undsacf__: sweet
acf__: camera is incredibly good
[18:04]
BryceBotThat's what she said!! [18:04]
acf__yea. that was one of the reasons
I'm coming from N9 (MeeGo)
the always-on time is nice
[18:04]
m0undsgotcha
yeah
[18:05]
acf__I'm looking for a good ssh app still thought
any suggestions?
[18:05]
m0undsi was using one called the ssh app or something
it worked alright, wasn't as nice as serverauditor on android/ios
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/the-ssh-client/e8aa1299-e011-486c-9f61-3232c892b17b
that's the one i was using
[18:06]
acf__ok cool
the other problem I was having... transferring files from Linux to it :P
it doesn't seem to cooperate with jmtpfs well
[18:06]
m0undshm
any particular filetype?
i usually just dropped stuff on onedrive
[18:07]
acf__eventually I used the Thunar plugin thingy, and it was working OK
music files mainly
[18:07]
m0undsah. if you have a larger data plan, i believe you can stream music from onedrive now
could be mixing that up though
[18:07]
acf__that sounds convenient [18:08]
m0undshttps://music.xbox.com/Onedrive [18:08]
brycecAlso relevant "You can make the music from OneDrive available offline on your Windows 8.1 phone, PC or tablet. "
so fat data plan unnecessary
[18:12]
m0undsoh, cool [18:24]
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