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| mercutio | w
oops :) | [01:36] |
| brycec | who
(: | [01:46] |
| mercutio | yeh
uhh i was probably using it to check load average actually i have no idea what i'd be using it for :) | [01:51] |
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| brycec | lol
I use uptime for that info :p | [02:15] |
| mercutio | w is quicker to type | [02:28] |
| brycec | aye, but who knows how long its output would be :p | [02:35] |
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| tooth | output might have changed by the time you see it | [11:26] |
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| mkb | I love working with Linux... first you find that RSA keys are stored in some format you've never seen or heard o; then you find that nobody knows what it's called
then you find that no manpage even mentions the fact that nobody else uses this format then you find that nobody has documented this on their blog either | [19:39] |
| mike-burns | Which program? | [19:40] |
| mkb | then you find some sentence buried deep inside some FAQ that indicates that they use approximately the format of some RFC relating to some other subject
libreswan not to be confused with openswan or strongswan, which must be different in some way... talking to iked on OpenBSD, which just uses regular PEM format it's NSSs format I think | [19:40] |
| mercutio | why are you using libreswan?
if it's weird, and you can't find any information on it, and it's security related and hard to understand i'd probably skip it... | [19:47] |
| mkb | because it's my friend's computer
otherwise I would wipe it and install a reasonable OS | [19:47] |
| staticsafe | IPSec on Linux is goddamn PITA
I just use OpenVPN after considering the options on Linux | [19:54] |
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| mercutio | heh
openvpn is simpler if it's linux to linux if you're connecting to cisco or something you need to do ipsec | [20:11] |
| staticsafe | yes | [20:11] |
| mercutio | i think i used racoon?
it has been many years since i've touched anything ipsec | [20:11] |
| staticsafe | I want to get some handson experience with IPSec but the configuration on Linux is a major turnoff | [20:12] |
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| mercutio | so i'm trying to buy new glasses online..
and somehow i've decided that i should buy 3 pairs of glasses. they're so cheap when you buy them online, that it's cheaper to buy three pairs online, than one pair offline apparently there's new anti relflection stuff which is meant to make computer use easier. anyone have any experience with such? | [21:09] |
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| milki | i sometimes wear sunglasses | [21:47] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [21:47] |
| brycec | brycec hasn't had a new pair of glasses in 10 years :/
(So no, no experience :p) | [21:47] |
| mercutio | you wearign the same pair?
or you stopped needing them ? | [22:01] |
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| brycec | Same pair.
Definitely need to get a new prescription but keep putting it off, other more important blah blah blah Side-note: I hate chroots. They cause nothing but headaches. protip: If you migrate a machine from i386 to amd64, double check that Apache's chroot is updated too. | [22:21] |
| mercutio | yeh i hadn't got one in like 4 years.
but my glasses randomly got scratched a lot. my prescription has hardly changed.. i didn't realise that apache had... oh you're using openbs? openbsd.. you'd think it'sd continue to work if it had all the dependencies in place... but openbsd doesn't support 32 binaries on 64bit.. | [22:34] |
| brycec | Yep, OpenBSD. An old web-server. Soon it will run Nginx, but one step at a time. | [22:48] |
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| brycec | What was most annoying was the complete lack of errors. Nothing in Apache's log etc. I could manually run "chroot.../bin/mail" (or whatever), but php itself always failed. Why? Because PHP's mail() forks "/bin/sh -c" which was leftover from before.
Anyways, lesson learned. | [22:49] |
| leres | Is it possible to change the VPS boot order? I asked for an upgrade from a 40GB to a 80GB partition but it's not obvoius how to boot off of the 80GB partition... | [22:52] |
| brycec | leres: If you just had your hard disk grown, there isn't a separate 80GB partition. Your drive setting was simply changed from 40GB to 80GB, and you'll need to update your partition table and partitions accordingly.
Also note that no BIOS gives you per-partition booting. That's just not how MBR works. | [22:55] |
| leres | No, I asked for a second virtual disk so I could change the size of partitions. | [22:55] |
| brycec | On the other hand, if you were setup with a second drive, then you can select the boot device over the VNC console during boot. F12 I believe
And to make that change permanent, you'll have to contact support to modify the virtsh configuration file directly | [22:56] |
| leres | F12 only offers floppy, hard disk or cd-rom, if I select hard disk it boots from ata0 | [22:57] |
| brycec | And you've done a complete power down after the change was made? | [22:58] |
| leres | I don't need ata0 any more but would like to just swap them so I can double check that the new system works
I had to do a complete power down to be able to see ata0 | [22:58] |
| brycec | (the change being the new drive)
Right. Huh, odd. I've never been in your exact shoes (simply extended my current VPS hard disk, never messed with a second disk, let alone booting) so I'm at a loss. | [22:58] |
| leres | I think I've almost figured out how to boot from ata1 via the freebsd boot prompt, if I can get that to work I can request they swap | [22:59] |
| brycec | (Other virt platforms, eg ESX, let me choose the disk.) | [22:59] |
| leres | my two disks, reboot again to get running on ata0 and then eventually ask them to delete the 40GB | [22:59] |
| brycec | What's your fstab configured to use, UUID's or device names? | [22:59] |
| leres | I'm looking at the bios page and it shows ata0 master, ata0 slave and ata1 master (cd-rom) | [23:00] |
| brycec | If UUID's then you're going to clash. If device names, then you may be in for some rocky times | [23:00] |
| leres | I'm using device names. | [23:00] |
| brycec | Oh, if you have master/slave, then just pick the slave, that should be the second drive, the 80GB | [23:00] |
| leres | pick slave from the freebsd 1st level boot, right? | [23:01] |
| brycec | Worth a shot | [23:01] |
| leres | ok, thanks! | [23:01] |
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| up_the_irons | mercutio: mkb staticsafe : i've done IPsec on Linux before to talk to a Cisco concentrator or some crap like that. It's not fun. Unless you *must* do it, just use OpenVPN. | [23:53] |
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