[01:36] w [01:37] oops :) [01:46] who [01:46] (: [01:51] yeh [01:51] uhh [01:51] i was probably using it to check load average [01:52] actually i have no idea what i'd be using it for :) [02:15] lol [02:15] I use uptime for that info :p [02:28] w is quicker to type [02:35] aye, but who knows how long its output would be :p [03:10] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks [04:39] *** djkrikke12 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [04:41] *** djkrikke-2 has joined #arpnetworks [06:17] *** husanux7 has joined #arpnetworks [06:20] *** husanux7 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:22] *** husanux4 has joined #arpnetworks [06:23] *** husanux4 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:27] *** husanux9 has joined #arpnetworks [06:31] *** husanux9 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:44] *** cahess_ has joined #arpnetworks [06:46] *** cahess has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:43] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [11:04] *** husanu0 has joined #arpnetworks [11:16] *** husanu0 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:26] output might have changed by the time you see it [11:30] *** kellytk has left "WeeChat 1.0.1" [18:13] *** kellytk has joined #arpnetworks [19:39] I love working with Linux... first you find that RSA keys are stored in some format you've never seen or heard o; then you find that nobody knows what it's called [19:39] then you find that no manpage even mentions the fact that nobody else uses this format [19:40] then you find that nobody has documented this on their blog either [19:40] Which program? [19:40] then you find some sentence buried deep inside some FAQ that indicates that they use approximately the format of some RFC relating to some other subject [19:40] libreswan [19:41] not to be confused with openswan or strongswan, which must be different in some way... [19:41] talking to iked on OpenBSD, which just uses regular PEM format [19:41] it's NSSs format I think [19:47] why are you using libreswan? [19:47] if it's weird, and you can't find any information on it, and it's security related and hard to understand i'd probably skip it... [19:47] because it's my friend's computer [19:48] otherwise I would wipe it and install a reasonable OS [19:54] IPSec on Linux is goddamn PITA [19:55] I just use OpenVPN after considering the options on Linux [20:11] heh [20:11] openvpn is simpler if it's linux to linux [20:11] if you're connecting to cisco or something you need to do ipsec [20:11] yes [20:11] i think i used racoon? [20:11] it has been many years since i've touched anything ipsec [20:12] I want to get some handson experience with IPSec but the configuration on Linux is a major turnoff [21:09] so i'm trying to buy new glasses online.. [21:09] and somehow i've decided that i should buy 3 pairs of glasses. [21:09] they're so cheap when you buy them online, that it's cheaper to buy three pairs online, than one pair offline [21:10] apparently there's new anti relflection stuff which is meant to make computer use easier. anyone have any experience with such? [21:47] i sometimes wear sunglasses [21:47] That's what she said!! [21:47] * brycec hasn't had a new pair of glasses in 10 years :/ [21:47] (So no, no experience :p) [22:01] you wearign the same pair? [22:01] or you stopped needing them ? [22:21] Same pair. [22:21] Definitely need to get a new prescription [22:21] but keep putting it off, other more important blah blah blah [22:21] Side-note: I hate chroots. They cause nothing but headaches. [22:22] protip: If you migrate a machine from i386 to amd64, double check that Apache's chroot is updated too. [22:34] yeh i hadn't got one in like 4 years. [22:34] but my glasses randomly got scratched a lot. my prescription has hardly changed.. [22:34] i didn't realise that apache had... [22:34] oh you're using openbs? [22:34] openbsd.. [22:35] you'd think it'sd continue to work if it had all the dependencies in place... but openbsd doesn't support 32 binaries on 64bit.. [22:48] Yep, OpenBSD. An old web-server. Soon it will run Nginx, but one step at a time. [22:48] *** leres has joined #arpnetworks [22:49] What was most annoying was the complete lack of errors. Nothing in Apache's log etc. I could manually run "chroot.../bin/mail" (or whatever), but php itself always failed. Why? Because PHP's mail() forks "/bin/sh -c" which was leftover from before. [22:49] Anyways, lesson learned. [22:52] Is it possible to change the VPS boot order? I asked for an upgrade from a 40GB to a 80GB partition but it's not obvoius how to boot off of the 80GB partition... [22:55] leres: If you just had your hard disk grown, there isn't a separate 80GB partition. Your drive setting was simply changed from 40GB to 80GB, and you'll need to update your partition table and partitions accordingly. [22:55] Also note that no BIOS gives you per-partition booting. That's just not how MBR works. [22:55] No, I asked for a second virtual disk so I could change the size of partitions. [22:56] On the other hand, if you were setup with a second drive, then you can select the boot device over the VNC console during boot. F12 I believe [22:56] And to make that change permanent, you'll have to contact support to modify the virtsh configuration file directly [22:57] F12 only offers floppy, hard disk or cd-rom, if I select hard disk it boots from ata0 [22:58] And you've done a complete power down after the change was made? [22:58] I don't need ata0 any more but would like to just swap them so I can double check that the new system works [22:58] I had to do a complete power down to be able to see ata0 [22:58] (the change being the new drive) [22:58] Right. [22:59] Huh, odd. I've never been in your exact shoes (simply extended my current VPS hard disk, never messed with a second disk, let alone booting) so I'm at a loss. [22:59] I think I've almost figured out how to boot from ata1 via the freebsd boot prompt, if I can get that to work I can request they swap [22:59] (Other virt platforms, eg ESX, let me choose the disk.) [22:59] my two disks, reboot again to get running on ata0 and then eventually ask them to delete the 40GB [22:59] What's your fstab configured to use, UUID's or device names? [23:00] I'm looking at the bios page and it shows ata0 master, ata0 slave and ata1 master (cd-rom) [23:00] If UUID's then you're going to clash. If device names, then you may be in for some rocky times [23:00] I'm using device names. [23:00] Oh, if you have master/slave, then just pick the slave, that should be the second drive, the 80GB [23:01] pick slave from the freebsd 1st level boot, right? [23:01] Worth a shot [23:01] ok, thanks! [23:19] *** leres has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [23:53] mercutio: mkb staticsafe : i've done IPsec on Linux before to talk to a Cisco concentrator or some crap like that. It's not fun. Unless you *must* do it, just use OpenVPN.