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| up_the_irons | brycec: yup it's dapper | [00:04] |
| brycec | well don't you feel *puts on shades* dapper? *Awwwwwyeaaaah* | [00:04] |
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| mercutio | yeh what kind of name is that | [00:55] |
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| brycec | wb up_the_irons
Alas you're still on an ancient version of Weechat :p | [01:20] |
| up_the_irons | yup this vm didn't get upgraded, only the host :) | [01:21] |
| brycec | is "apt-get upgrade" "/upgrade" that hard?
brycec <3 weechat's /upgrade | [01:22] |
| mercutio | heh
yeh the /upgrade is cool although it stays in the process list | [01:33] |
| up_the_irons | i never even knew of that | [01:33] |
| mercutio | neither did i until i used it :)
it keeps all of your open windows etc up live on the wild side, upgrade carbon to trusty :) | [01:34] |
| up_the_irons | i am doing so now, in fact | [01:37] |
| mercutio | sweet | [01:38] |
| brycec | w00t
Yeah even keeps the connections open. All thanks to some fancy /proc footwork. | [01:47] |
| mercutio | oh i didn't realise that
that's amazing :) i want to understand how that works more now | [01:51] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [01:51] |
| mercutio | it'd be cool if tmux upgrades could behave the same :/
i upgraded tmux on ubuntu once, and had to downgrade it to resume my tmux session.. | [01:51] |
| brycec | LOL
Put very simply, /upgrade overwrites the executable in-memory (/proc/$pid/exe), sets a flag in memory, and restarts the program That way all open fd's remain open, etc | [01:52] |
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| brycec | Yay up_the_irons is up to 1.2 now :D | [02:09] |
| up_the_irons | I am?
w00t i just did a dist upgrade but now notifications are broken :( down the rabbit hole i go... | [02:10] |
| mnathani_ | up_the_irons: how is the baking coming along (kvr30 upgrade) | [02:12] |
| up_the_irons | mnathani_: starting | [02:12] |
| mnathani_ | I noticed the maintenance notice email said upgrading to 14.04, is that different from the other Venom patches on other hosts? | [02:13] |
| up_the_irons | yes | [02:13] |
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| mercutio | 1.2 | [02:15] |
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| up_the_irons | up_the_irons: test | [02:18] |
| mnathani_ | up_the_irons: are you getting notifications yet? | [02:24] |
| up_the_irons | mnathani_: try it again | [02:27] |
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| brycec | I'll try it, up_the_irons
only 20 minutes later <.< | [02:46] |
| up_the_irons | worked :) | [02:46] |
| brycec | Word. | [02:46] |
| mike-burns | I'm about to upgrade FreeBSD 9.3 to OpenBSD 5.7 on my VPS. According to ls -ltr in /etc, this VPS is from 1 May 2009.
Just bragging about how old the VPS is. | [02:49] |
| brycec | I'm currently working to upgrade: drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 12 2008 disklabels
aka OpenBSD 4.4 | [02:50] |
| mike-burns | Oh snap. | [02:50] |
| brycec | yep, fun times
The OpenBSD upgrade itself was straightforward as always, kudos to OpenBSD. it's the packages and website on top (was, and will be. first in testing, then I'll get to do it all again for production) | [02:53] |
| mike-burns | That's what I would expect. | [02:54] |
| Does OpenBSD still face mpbios issues on the VPS? | [02:59] | |
| up_the_irons | good question | [03:00] |
| brycec | Hasn't cropped up lately. Think it was fixed in recent OpenBSD's | [03:00] |
| mercutio | it doesn't on recent kvm versions | [03:00] |
| brycec | and/or recent KVM's | [03:00] |
| mercutio | or recent openbsd
haha i'm not sure which now :) | [03:00] |
| brycec | I know I had no issues with it | [03:00] |
| mercutio | are you on a recent machine mike? | [03:00] |
| mike-burns | kvr02. Recent enough right? | [03:01] |
| mercutio | haha it's numbered low :) | [03:01] |
| mike-burns | But it's not 1! | [03:01] |
| brycec | But up_the_irons may have upgraded it recently anyhow | [03:01] |
| mercutio | i think it's not recent... | [03:01] |
| mike-burns | Yeah I think it is not upgraded. | [03:02] |
| up_the_irons | kvr02 is still old | [03:02] |
| mercutio | it's got high uptime probably :) | [03:02] |
| up_the_irons | only 778 days | [03:02] |
| mike-burns | Hahahha.
So I'll let you all know whether mpbios is fixed thanks to a recent OpenBSD or thanks to a recent kvm. | [03:02] |
| mercutio | heh | [03:03] |
| up_the_irons | lol | [03:03] |
| mercutio | are you using smp?
if not you should be able to disable it regardless. | [03:03] |
| up_the_irons | mike-burns: there's another issue though... you might not want to reboot :/ | [03:04] |
| mike-burns | Oh fair enough; I don't actively make use of it. | [03:04] |
| mercutio | yeh mike you should just get an extra vps :) | [03:04] |
| up_the_irons | it hangs somewhere else... i've had to migrate VMs to different hosts because of it | [03:04] |
| mike-burns | Interesting. | [03:04] |
| up_the_irons | recent OpenBSD and old kvm don't play nice
we're going to upgrade kvr02 next week | [03:04] |
| mike-burns | I can wait. | [03:04] |
| up_the_irons | cool | [03:05] |
| mike-burns | Thank you for the heads-up. | [03:05] |
| up_the_irons | np! | [03:05] |
| mercutio | is there a kvr01? | [03:05] |
| up_the_irons | nope | [03:05] |
| mercutio | heh | [03:05] |
| up_the_irons | or is there? | [03:05] |
| mercutio | well that's how mike got a @ i suppose :)
looooong time user. | [03:05] |
| up_the_irons | ;)
mike was one of the first... | [03:05] |
| mercutio | well i can ping it.. | [03:05] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [03:05] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [03:06] |
| mercutio | kvr01 is internal? | [03:06] |
| up_the_irons | you can ping kvr01??! | [03:06] |
| mercutio | yes | [03:06] |
| up_the_irons | there is no kvr01... | [03:06] |
| mercutio | PING kvr01.arpnetworks.com (208.79.88.66) 56(84) bytes of data.
reverse lookup says mercury though | [03:06] |
| up_the_irons | oh i guess i just aliased it
that's mercury.arpnetworks.com mercury was the first box so you can consider it kvr01 | [03:06] |
| mercutio | was it kvm? | [03:07] |
| mike-burns | Nice naming scheme. | [03:07] |
| up_the_irons | yes and still is
it has a couple handful VMs on it | [03:07] |
| mercutio | what does kvr stand for? | [03:08] |
| up_the_irons | Kvm ViRtual machine | [03:08] |
| mercutio | ahh
it wsa bugging me what r could stand for :) | [03:08] |
| up_the_irons | haha | [03:09] |
| mercutio | i kept thinking router
which of course made no sense. | [03:09] |
| up_the_irons | right | [03:09] |
| mike-burns | I could only picture "rachine", which makes no sense. | [03:09] |
| mercutio | haha
rack that could work kvm virtual rack | [03:09] |
| up_the_irons | "rachine" sounds cool | [03:10] |
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| dne | which acpi event is sent to VMs when taking down hosts for maintenance? mine apparently didn't shut down cleanly (kvr30)... | [04:26] |
| up_the_irons | power down i believe | [04:29] |
| dne | ok, sounds reasonable | [04:31] |
| grody | heh windows hyper-v happy runs FreeBSD .. but dang does linux hate it
it works, boots etc. but it's laggy to hell | [04:32] |
| mercutio | curious
windows hyperv should work fine with linux | [04:34] |
| dne | yeah, seems to work ok for me | [04:35] |
| grody | might try a custom 4.x kernel before ruling it out | [04:35] |
| dne | debian >= wheezy and *EL 5 & 6 | [04:35] |
| grody | using debian 8.1.0
it appears to be using LIS - i mean, it must be | [04:36] |
| dne | only tried wheezy, tbh | [04:36] |
| mercutio | is it video that's laggy or network?
because i've found esxi laggy for video too | [04:38] |
| grody | IO as a whole - using it headless | [04:38] |
| mercutio | ahh | [04:38] |
| grody | using the [Gentoo] (generation 2) layout, it wont even boot | [04:40] |
| dne | grody: is it using the paravirtualised disk/net drivers? | [04:40] |
| grody | i know i had to assign it the legacy network adapter for it to even work
using an identical layout (just ram/disk sizes differ) to the FreeBSD ah.. spotted why right.. network fixed - disk IO is a blunder im using dynamic VHDX and the default block size isn't helping | [04:42] |
| better.. this windows box has 8 cores and is bloody fast, i just need some more power to build AOSP 5.1 (my poor laptop alone took 5.0.2 11 hours last time) | [04:51] | |
| mercutio | how long does the 8 core box do it in? | [05:05] |
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| grody | no idea.. it's a clean install of windows 10 with absolutely no development tools
not my box either.. but he says i can use 4 cores for a day or two i7-5960X lappy is a AMD-N830 s/'a '/'an'/ d'oh! | [05:35] |
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| anisfarhana | !!!!
Does "Garry Dolley" is here? Probably not :D | [12:36] |
| acf__ | that would be up_the_irons :P | [12:39] |
| anisfarhana | Ohhhh
Ha ha ha acf__: No kidding? | [12:39] |
| acf__ | yep | [12:39] |
| anisfarhana | Thanks for the info. I wanna pm him now :D | [12:40] |
| acf__ | what other VPS provider has an official IRC channel.. :D | [12:40] |
| anisfarhana | And what other VPS provider less concern about money even they need $$ to operate the biz :D
Hoorah arpnetworks! | [12:41] |
| twobithacker | oh wow, I haven't been to the website in a while | [12:54] |
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| brycec | It's poor etiquette to PM a stranger on IRC. Just like you wouldn't walk up to a stranger on the street and pull them into an alley.
(or maybe you would, and that's why your face is on a "Wanted" poster) | [13:29] |
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| m0unds | i only pm to send inappropriate pictures
just ask gizmoguy_ | [13:49] |
| staticsafe | heh | [13:50] |
| brycec | heh
I guess that would be equivalent to simply flashing someone in public. (flashing them a photo, of course) | [13:50] |
| m0unds | just have to be sure the target is outside US jurisdiction is all
it was nice to be able to do yard work today and not feel like i'm going to combust i'm not suited for living in >100F temps | [13:55] |
| gizmoguy_ | yeah i have got some hot ones | [14:04] |
| m0unds | `;->~ | [14:06] |
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| mercutio | i'm not sure i'm convinced that it's poor etiquitte to pm strangers on irc. | [16:22] |
| m0unds | is that an invitation? | [16:22] |
| mercutio | well is it any better if someone asks if they can pm you? | [16:22] |
| m0unds | for the most part, i only get pms from bots | [16:23] |
| mercutio | i would say it's more akin to walking up to a stranger at a party | [16:23] |
| brycec | Except that the IRC channel is that party. | [16:23] |
| mercutio | mercutio checks pm's which he never shuts
brycec: you never talk to people 1 on 1 at a party? | [16:23] |
| m0unds | would it be like following someone to the bathroom? | [16:23] |
| brycec | mercutio: Any time I have to change windows, that's akin to going to a separate room at a party | [16:24] |
| mercutio | i just had to change windows becuase you said my name
i was checking my pm's damnit :) anyone, yeh, sure, pm me people if you have something specific to say to me :) m0unds: what i've wondered is why so many parties end up in the kitchen.. | [16:24] |
| m0unds | food | [16:26] |
| mercutio | usually food isn't in kitchen
at least parties i go to :) | [16:26] |
| m0unds | my downstairs is just the living room, kitchen and dining room
all open, no walls | [16:26] |
| mike-burns | There are two kinds of PMs, from what I've seen: things that anyone could answer but you got singled out, and a friend gossiping with you specifically. I abhor the former and enjoy the latter. | [16:26] |
| mercutio | mike: that's why i said specific to me. hah. yeah, sometimes especially in random channels you say something semi-helpful and someone will pm you | [16:27] |
| mike-burns | Yeah srsly. | [16:27] |
| BryceBot | srsly | [16:27] |
| mike-burns | Thanks, BryceBot . | [16:27] |
| m0unds | whadda guy
/bot | [16:27] |
| mike-burns | In general, if I haven't met you IRL, you probably shouldn't be PMing me. | [16:28] |
| mercutio | mercutio pm's mike :)
i suppose it's like real life, some people care much more than others. but it's harder to read people. mercutio has never had cause to pm mike | [16:28] |
| mike-burns | But if you ever have some great gossip, just let me know! | [16:30] |
| mercutio | m0unds: that actually sounds good for a party :)
party at m0unds's place! | [16:32] |
| m0unds | haha, byob | [16:33] |
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| brycec | mike-burns++ Exactly! That's really what it boils down to - people you know vs strangers randomly singling you out, and I abhor the latter as well.
"it's harder to read people" Technically, all you can do is /read/ me :p (unless you've watched an interview of me) Agreed, prime party layout @ m0unds | [19:54] |
| mercutio | brycec: i was thinking read in the moment, it does tend to make conversations a lot easier | [20:00] |
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