#arpnetworks 2015-06-16,Tue

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antbtw...15°C is quite warm for 3am (re weather in frankfurt) [00:38]
mercutiooh i didn't realise it was 3 am
15c for 3 am isn't so bad
@weather frankfurt
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BryceBotFrankfurt, Germany: Partly Cloudy ☁ 61°F (16°C), Humidity: 50%, Wind: From the West at 10 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=, or re-request this with: @weather -v frankfurt [00:40]
mercutioweird, it hasnt' got much warmer.. [00:40]
anti'm 1.5 hours away from fankfurt (in terms of driving distance) and i have the same weather currently [00:42]
mercutioapparently texas is meant to have more flooding happening soon
didn't they just have heaps of flooding?
heh when you see "world weather" it seems insane, because they always show the worst weather.
i think it's about 15c here probably, probably less actually, it's pretty chilly outside
@weather akl
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BryceBotAuckland International, New Zealand: 47°F (8°C), Humidity: 71%, Wind: From the West at 5 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=, or re-request this with: @weather -v akl [00:43]
mercutiodamn that cold. [00:43]
anttonight i slept with my window open and had 18c in my room this morning [00:45]
mercutionice
i like sleeping with my window open
but there are too many bugs here, so even in summer it sucks :(
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antup_the_irons: if you do the meetup near frankfurt on a weekend i might come ;) [00:47]
up_the_ironswe have a taker!
ant: i actually will be in frankfurt over the weekend, not sure which though. either 18-19. Juli oder 25-26
it will probably just be you and me, but i owe you some beers anyway!!
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anthaha
i'll be in frankfurt-eschborn next week
should buy a train ticket...
[00:52]
up_the_ironsyeah but i won't be there until july ;) [00:55]
anti actually have no clue where i might be in july..my boss might send me anywhere [00:56]
up_the_ironsah [00:56]
antbut if not i'm just about 1.5 hours away from frankfurt [00:58]
mercutiodo you drive fast ant? [01:01]
antmercutio: when i drive on a german autobahn and there is no speed limit (which does not happen often), yes [01:01]
mercutiooh is there normally a speed limit?
i read about people driving really fast on the autobahn, but i wonder if that's frequent, orp eople just like to talk about it becaues it's different to other countries.
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antthere is no implicit limit, but often there are explicit limits for safety reasons (when many accidents are happening in this area) [01:02]
mercutiomakes sense
i like the idea of common sense
here people drive about 5 to 20% over the speed limit whether it's wet or dry, night or day
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anta lot of people just can't drive, but still drive at high speeds when it's allowed
and also some people do it when it's not allowed
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mercutioi've wondered how well i'd drive at 200km/hour
i've never driven anything close to that fast so it's hard to know
i bet my car would shake at that speed
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anti think the fastest i went was 190km/h (most cars don't have the hp for higher speeds) [01:04]
mercutioyou mean it takes too long to get up? [01:05]
antthat, and when you are at that speed and press the speed pedal nothing happens [01:05]
mercutioyou mean it just caps out? [01:06]
antyeah
you might go faster downhill ;)
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mercutioheh
i prefer to go faster up hill than down hill
when driving and when running
damn i hate running down hill
but like if breaking going down hill it's much easier to lose grip
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antbut all in all i'm actually not driving very often. i don't even own a car [01:08]
mercutioahh ok
good trains?
i hardly drive too
well like once or twice a week
driving is much nicer when it's not all the time
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anti used not to travel so much, and in the city i can go by bus
sometimes it sucks not to have a car, but not enough to spend that much money to buy one
also when i go by bus or train i can do other stuff while traveling. when i drive, i cannot do that
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mercutiotrue but driving can be kind of relaxing
and you can just listen to music etc
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antyeah, except when there are jerks on the road, which happens way to often [01:14]
mercutioi used to walk a lot, and i found that it didn't really make me shorter on time. [01:14]
antwhen i was on vacation in may for three weeks i had a rental and drove about 700km. i think at home i don't drive that much in two years [01:16]
mercutiowhen i moved here i think i drove about 1000km
but i don't drive anything like that far normally
that was in two days. so 3 weeks and 700km doesn't seem that bad to me.
err actually 3
i reckon driving gets easier when you drive for longer
like you drive for 5 or 10 km and you're much more likely to have annoying drivers, spend time getting in/out etc.
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anti mostly drove to the beach, about 15km ;) [01:22]
mercutioheh
2.3km to the beach here
well to a beach, there's heaps of beaches here
i hardly ever go though
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brycecFunny how you never see "Mm" used as a unit. "when i moved here i think i drove about 1000km" [05:18]
mercutiohaha
i drove about 1Mm :)
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mike-burnsIn the Nordics people say "mile" to refer to 10km. [05:22]
mercutiothe problem here is that the US says a million is one thousand thousand.
oh hangon
it's a billion that's different
don't mind me :)
a billion is a thousand million or a million million
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mike-burnsBoth US and UK use the short scale. [05:24]
mercutioyeah it seems to have changed a bit now.
a thousand million is more useful.
what i find confusing is when people use . instead of , as a separater.
like 1.000.000 for a million
or 1.234
is it germany that does that?
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mike-burnsSweden does it too; I expect that many places in EU do. I'd read an article on the history of it, if you find one. [05:28]
mercutioYeah wikipedia has some information.
apparently some places are moving to using spaces.
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brycecBecause that's not even more confusing at all >.>
<.<
"I have 5 1 dollar bills"
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mercutioYou're only meant to use separators if you have numbers bigger than 9999
so like 10,000 vs 10.000 vs 10 000
i like $34k
or $34.5k
reads better to me than $34,500
and $34.500 just seems confusing to me at first.
and if it's $34.499 i think someone's doing something weird with cents :/
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brycecGasoline prices here are specified down to thousandths of a dollar... [05:49]
mercutioalthough it's usually euro, and i don't have alt-gr setup. [05:49]
bryceceg. $2.759/Gal [05:49]
mercutioick
i hate this .9 thing that's been going around
but it's also annoying when people have amounts like $8.30 for things.
so you need like $5+2+1+20c+10c
or to end up with change..
a while back i got petrol and i got $20 of petrol or something and it was charged at $20.05 or something.
because their silly machine had put too much petrol in by a little
actually i don't think we have 5c coins anymore.
oh it was $20.01, and i was paying with credit card.. it's just i hadn't seen it before..
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up_the_ironsmercutio: germany uses "," where we would use ".", yes
1,5 (DE) = 1.5 (US)
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mercutioahh
i knew it was some euro country
you're up late :)
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plettIt looks like more countries use commas than dots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark#Hindu.E2.80.93Arabic_numeral_system [06:13]
BryceBotDecimal mark :: A decimal mark is a symbol used to separate the integer part from the fractional part of a number written in decimal form. Different countries officially designate different symbols for the decimal mark. The choice of symbol for the decimal mark also affects the choice of symbol for the thousands separator used in digit grouping, so the latter is also treated in this article. In mathematics the decimal mark is a type... [06:13]
dnehehe: "In 1958, disputes between European and American delegates over the correct representation of the decimal mark nearly stalled the development of the ALGOL computer programming language." [06:27]
mercutioheh dne [06:29]
brycecOr early, if you're on PDT as ARP is. 06:03:40 ⤷ | you're up late :) [06:31]
mercutiodepends if up late or up early...
you're up late too brycec :)
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brycecI awoke at 0500 :P [06:32]
mercutiooh
you're up early
i only slept for 4 hours last night
i shouldn't really still be up.
[06:32]
brycecYep. Too early. But I couldn't risk going back to sleep and missing my conference call 30 minutes from now. Plus i have lots to catch up upon.
brycec got <5hrs
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mercutioi keep meaning to do micronaps when i don't sleep much
and i never seem to get around to it
i used to do them all the time, it worked well.
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mike-burnsI've been micronapping this week, since I'm on vacation. [06:34]
mercutioi used to find micronaps were great for coding
i'd be stuck on some problem, haev a micronap, and immediately after waking be able to implement heaps of stuff suddenly.
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mike-burnsI can confirm. [06:35]
mercutioin contrast to huge hours long debugging sessions with little progress..
sometimes stepping away seems to be the best solution
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [06:36]
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grodyhmm.. why does my irssi ignore the wait 5000 instruction after sending auth
not having a good week :'(
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trobothamheh
weechat ftw
:)
mercutio: and yes a lot of rain atm i'm in Texas
i go to work soon too!
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