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Seji has joined #arpnetworks mnathani_: @weather -v yyz BryceBot: Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Scattered Clouds 63°F (17°C), Humidity: 59%, Wind: From the SSE at 9 MPH, Pressure: 30.19inHg (1022mb) and falling, Dewpoint: 48°F (9°C), Visibility: 15Mi (24km), UV index: 8, Sunrise 05:39, Sunset: 20:53, Lunar phase: Full moon
Tuesday: Clear 64°F/47°F (18°C/8°C) | Wednesday: Clear 69°F/50°F (21°C/10°C) | Thursday: Clear 76°F/57°F (24°C/14°C) | Friday: Mostly Cloudy 78°F/55°F (26°C/13°C)
The average high for this date is 67°F (19°C), and the record of 85°F (29°C) was set in 2014. The average low is 49°F (9°C), and the record of 46°F (7°C) was set in 1998 mercutio: winter is coming
actually shouldn't winter be leaving for you? ***: carvite has joined #arpnetworks
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mnathani_: thanks!
for spotting that mnathani_: Starting on June 27, Google Calendar will no longer send SMS notifications.
which sucks
np up_the_irons brycec: mnathani_: Unless you're a paying GApps customer
I was amused by their justification, essentially "everybody has smartphones now so we don't need to send SMS anymore" qbit: o/ m0unds: i had an issue w/google sending me sms about a meeting i deleted a year ago
it was amusing and annoying at the same time
recurring meeting, happened every 2 weeks mercutio: damn m0unds
that sonuds rather annoying m0unds: yea, it took forever for them to figure out what happened. the event wasn't showing up in the calendar, but was still present somewhere else mercutio: so i read about comcast giving their customers $5 today due to dns outage.
how does comcast manage to have such a big dns outage? m0unds: who knows
not impacted myself because i don't use their resolvers mercutio: and how many people will care either way about a $5 service credit. m0unds: didn't google public dns have an outage or something recently?
remembered seeing something about it on nanog or somewhere mercutio: google dns is kind of unreliable
but a lot of their outages are limited in area.
and short. m0unds: umm, comcast outage impacted SFO area and SEA area
probably not /that/ many subs without svc brycec: Plus, you know, nobody is paying "for" Google DNS :P Comcast on the other hand... mercutio: yeah a friend was mentioning how bad he was finding comcast. m0unds: well, nobody pays comcast for dns either mercutio: but he could still skype m0unds: it's value added or something
tell him to try out centurylink for perspective
haha brycec: It's inherent in being an ISP when you hand out that IP as part of your services mercutio: don't think he has any other options.
he's in santa clara. m0unds: i'd imagine he has an ILEC he could use mercutio: which apparently is not very well serviced for residential users.
even though it's basically silicon valley. brycec: Except it was built before SV was SV... mercutio: i think he can use at&t as well.
true.
he dropped speeds from 105 megabit to 25 megabit i think.
it speed tests at 30 megabit, but it seems to struggle really easily.
my theory was that there's either weird cable congestion in his location or there's just really bad buffering/queuing. m0unds: speedtest servers on the west coast are regularly awfully congested mercutio: yeah but he said that playing a youtube video would screw up voip calls. -: m0unds shrugs m0unds: sounds like he needs qos or something to prioritize voice maybe mercutio: on download is hard m0unds: i do it despite having 50mbit service here mercutio: on comcast? m0unds: not that hard, just don't permit stuff to use 100% of your pipe
yep mercutio: yeah i was suggesting he could do that.
how well does it work when you don't control the other end? m0unds: i clamp at 85% down and 80% up
it's fine mercutio: cool.
i use fq_codel myself.
and i get like 1 msec higher pings when going hard. m0unds: i've done it for years, did it when i could only get 7mbit DSL staticsafe: the buffer bloat is real :( mercutio: you want some kind of fair queuing too
policing sucks too
i thought he should just get the 150/20 service.
having high upload speed is nice for remote backups etc too :/ m0unds: funny, facebook is testing pgp support for notification emails brycec: I anticipate "Ugh what's this funny text/attachment? I must've been haxxed!" m0unds: well, if you have a pubkey and don't know what it is...find something clever to do to yourself
because you have to submit it to facebook, decrypt the resultant message from them and then approve the whole thing before it will do it
(i reactivated my acct just to try it) mercutio: pgp signing emails seems like a nice thing to do
but encrypting with pgp seems silly to me for things like web site notifications. m0unds: https://www.facebook.com/notes/protecting-the-graph/securing-email-communications-from-facebook/1611941762379302 mercutio: the downgrade attacks on smtp need to be fixed.
there should be able to be something in dns saying always use TLS or such
facebook is on tor wow brycec: m0unds: Ahhh so it's encrypted, not just signed, and requires opt-in.
Interesting. m0unds: yeah
still hate facebook, but it's neat they decided to roll that out mercutio: yeah in spite of not liking a lot of things about facebook they do seem to have quite a few technical people doing interesting thing. m0unds: they used to post interesting stuff on their engineering blog. dunno if they still do. mercutio: facebook is probably the slowest popular web site around here though brycec: In other interesting news http://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/free-donuts-for-national-donut-day m0unds: i miss donuts mercutio: that looks healthy brycec: If by "healthy" you mean "american" then yes mercutio: heh
i wonder how far opencomute got
err opencompute
Microsoft announced today they will begin contributing to the OpenSSH project, as well as enabling PowerShell to be a native SSH client.
this sounds like fun
Micosoft vs Theo DeRaadt brycec: s/icrosoft/oney/ | s/ T.*/ Open Wallet/ BryceBot: <mercutio> Money announced today they will begin contributing to the OpenSSH project, as well as enabling PowerShell to be a native SSH client. brycec: s/icosoft/oney/ | s/ T.*/ Open Wallet/ BryceBot: <mercutio> Money vs Open Wallet mercutio: oh i thought they meant contributing code not money
hardly anyone funds openssh brycec: I dunno, it might be both mercutio: yeah i will be keen to see how this goes :) brycec: But I can't help but feel that Microsoft's best move is to step back, consume, and fund. mercutio: they need to add some stuff to make it work on windows
i imagine..
and openssh on openbsd won't even support aesni because they want better security. brycec: OpenSSH already compiles/runs on Windows fine (see Cygwin). It's a matter of integrating it into PSH... mercutio: it's not like they're "open minded", it's vey much security/right first.
ahh ok.
but i'd think they'd want native rather than cygwin brycec: It is native (well, mingw IIRC)
btw, MSFT already flubbed up hilariously https://twitter.com/ANGELCALVOS/status/605880409486848000 BryceBot: TWITTER: @canadianbryan @damienmiller we sent mail last week to the openssh-unix-announce@mindrot.org alias ...subject: OpenSSH on Windows (Tue Jun 02 23:35:20 +0000 2015, in reply to @canadianbryan) brycec: That's a read-only list
"The Linux/Unix port of OpenSSH has a read-only mailing list"
(the replied-to tweet https://twitter.com/canadianbryan/status/605871835817766912) BryceBot: TWITTER: .@ANGELCALVOS That's great, but according to @damienmiller and other OpenBSD developers, you never even reached out to before going public. (Tue Jun 02 23:01:16 +0000 2015, in reply to @ANGELCALVOS, retweeted 1 times) mercutio: haha
mindrot
i mean seriously
who emails something that says mindrot about something official
i mean i think mindrot is as good as any other mailing list viewer. brycec: nevermind that they would have had to read past the blurb about it being a read-only list to get the announce list address mercutio: buut it's obviously something not to be taken too seriously.
oh this was discussed earlier in devious?
i missed it because it said twitter and i stopped paying attention. brycec: Yeah not longer ago
*long
wtf is with me... mercutio: i have internal filter :)
it doesn't help that it says TWITTER and then has a really long line.. brycec: I swear that between my brain and fingers is speech recognition, and it's not great... mercutio: yeah it's kind of like that for me too
except it's half-sounded.
appparently there's like three ways to read, which i suppose is related, fully verbalising, half-verbalising, and something else.
the something else is what happens when skim reading i think
and if you switch from half-verbal to full-verbal you can be more precise. mnathani_: first time installing arch on bare metal (lenovo laptop)
all is going well except I cant get into kde
startx > xf869OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
am probably missing some little step ***: Seji has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: using lightdm?
i don't remember ever hitting that
oh using startx
just use lightdm
it'll run as root and setuid itself to lightdm uusername mnathani_: I installed lightdm mercutio: systemctl start lightdm mnathani_: http://pastebin.com/djdCnQUg brycec: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=192329
Basically looks like a permissions issue
Check that you have group=tty mnathani_: running x as root is working
bad practice
my user should be in the tty group? brycec: mnathani_: check that /dev/tty1 is owned by you
Should be $user:tty
(I have no idea what's response for creating /dev/tty1 these days, but I'd suspect either you logged in as root and su'd, or systemd got a bit funky)
*responsible mnathani_: su
logged out
and logged in as regular user and its working now brycec: heh
protip: Don't mess up permissions :p mnathani_: sudo pacman -Syu
there is nothing to do
all up to date which seems odd brycec: Why is that odd? mnathani_: sudo pacman -S plasma-meta
Download size 0 mnathani: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/70136dceed92d76534d8 BryceBot: Gist: "https://gist.github.com/70136dceed92d76534d8" mnathani: gnome terminal error mnathani_: fixed a locale issue