mnathani_: I don't really know. Was just joking
mercutio: ahh ok
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grody: i hate my mobile carrier
they are shaping/throttling my downloads from google play, to 5kb/s
they give me unlimited data and throttle me to dialup modem after 4GB
oddly.. if i sshtunnel or ovpn out from phone, i get max speeds for about an hour, then throttled again
phlux: So, what are you guys using for IRCd/services these days
Since Charybdis/Atheme are no longer under development
I really don't like the idea of InspIRCd
Nothing against them, I just don't need all of those features..I get that it's modular and I can disable half of the shit, but what's the point of running/compiling something that large when I'm only going to use half of it?
JC_Denton: Nefarious + X3
i like that combo
grody: was about to say.. Nefarious+X3 is a common combo on the IRCs i lurk on
if you want serious small time (single node and handful of users) 27555MHz8008135
oops
wont be using that password again :D
more curious to why openwrt actually lets me copy the password when it's ******'d out
to append what i was saying.. ngircd is quite nice for smalltime
JC_Denton: X3 is a great services package
brycec: lol numeric "boobies"
phlux: last I checked, Nefarious and X3 had some serious IPv6 issues
Not to mention the SSL issues and lack of SASL support
JC_Denton: it has working v6 and SSL
not sure what SASL feature you're looking for, but i recommend hitting the dev channel up. it's in #evilnet on AfterNET
phlux: Last I checked, v6 required using a tunnel for Nefarious
grody: brycec, wifi password - i like to keep them easy
JC_Denton: phlux: nah, it's been native for awhile - i run it natively on my network
grody: about to say.. i sit on a network that uses nef+x3 that has native IPv6 and backend auth from services to their webste
^^ Afternet :)
JC_Denton: irc is such a small world
phlux: JC_Denton: Does it support SASL authentication via any methods?
Most networks don't support SASL EXTERNAL (Charybdis-only feature, I think)
but if it supports any other kind of SASL authentication, I may give it another look
also: I thought Nefarious was developed by evilnet, not afternet :|
https://github.com/evilnet/ircgw <--this used to be the way to do ipv6 with Nefarious. Looks like it still is for their 'nefarious' tree, but maybe not for the nefarious2 tree.
JC_Denton: it's native in nef2
and evilnet pretty much lives on afternet
phlux: ah
interesting
I'll give it a test run, then. Thanks.
brycec: Is there a reason you're using IRC instead of something else like XMPP? (most servers support SASL btw)
mercutio: XMPP servers are plentiful these days
staticsafe: eh its a matter of preference
one can use both
brycec: Sure one can. I was just curious what made IRC a "requirement" for phlux's use case.
mercutio: i was curious about using irc chat for small groups before too.
brycec: We just moved off SILC at work and chose XMPP for the bountiful clients, extensibility, things like server-side logging and channel playback, etc
mercutio: how many people here run their own personal jabber server?
brycec: The ability to join a channel and see the last 100 lines is somewhat important, and something services like Hipchat tout. I don't see any IRC servers that can do that (wtihout each client running a bouncer)
-: brycec does, now
mercutio: i shifted from ejabberd to prosody
brycec: (Well it's not "personal", I run the company's xmpp)
mercutio: ahh
brycec: I quite like Prosody :)
mercutio: are you using prosody too? :)
brycec: I have no reason to run a "personal" XMPP server - who am I going to talk to? (Even with federation,everyone I talk to online is by IRC)
Yup
mercutio: heh i don't talk to that many people on jabber
i kind of wish it'd take off more. a lot of people use skype :/
i'm still on icq :/
brycec: My only grievance with XMPP is that JIDs in MUCs are different from the user's own JID (eg: blah@conference.blah.com)
mercutio: ahh
brycec: So someone double-clicks your nick in the muc and they're chatting /through/ the muc component to "you" and not actual you
-: brycec could have worded all that better, sorry
mercutio: byeh that's messsy
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mercutio: hmm arp doesn't support paypal
RandalSchwartz: nop
mercutio: yeah i thought it was just amazon that didn't accept paypal that i was using atm :)
mnathani_: I remember my Icq number from back in the 90s
brycec: I do too
107019716
staticsafe: what is ICQ? :)
brycec: @ud ICQ
BryceBot: ICQ: A chat-programm (I SEEK YOU) where you can instant message people in your list.rPeople first get an ICQ number rwhich can be send to others so that they can add you to their buddies list.rFortunantly, there is an "AUTHORIZE" option ,rso random people can't add you if you don't want it when they found ryou through the search option.rrThe best option is the Invisible Mode:rpeople can't see your online status,rexcept if you want them.[19:34] <brycec> I was expecting something worse from UrbanDictionary.
staticsafe: ICQ wasn't really a thing when I was a kid, mostly MSN Messenger
mercutio: icq was 90s.
i remember mine too
16276662
brycec: And here I thought I'd had ICQ for a long time...
mercutio: heh
icq wasn't too bad at first.
then it got lame.
it used to not be bloated etc on windows.
i used to use micq on linux thoug.
mnathani: 17779063
mercutio: mnathani: sounds like you got on just after me
i've met people with 6 digit though
mnathani_: my VPS is feeling a bit left out, its on kvr30 and dont think it has been patched as yet
uptime:
01:38:58 up 330 days, 18:57, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.05, 0.06
http://pastebin.com/UYMbc1b9
packetloss to 8.8.8.8
from my cable connection in Toronto
mercutio: curious no responses from 2nd hop
209.148.245.49 looks like a google ip but i'd have to cehck
nah it's rogers :/
mnathani_: http://pastebin.com/jnJdP38b
mercutio: you can't really tell what's happening from that.
well you can tell it reaches google and doesn't get back to you
mnathani_: could be my ISP or Google
most likely my ISP
or the anycast node I am hitting
mercutio: are normal google services fine?
sometimes i see 8.8.8.8 going somewhere further away, but generally i've found it stable
i just find the performance is terrible.
mnathani_: google search seems to be a bit slow
but working
google.com. 130 IN A 216.58.216.238
although thats an ISP address not Google
mercutio: that's where arp goes
well i'm getting 216.58.216.4 from arp
and it's 0.5 msec ping
well 0.7 avg, 0.5 min
mnathani_: its google actually
hmm
mercutio: i wonder if it goes to los angeles or if it's anycasted
well the name says lax on it :)
mnathani_: I switched my dns to 4.2.2.2
cos the 8.8.8.8 was not working
mercutio: 4.2.2.1 is better
why don't you use your isp dns?
mnathani_: hard to remember ip
mercutio: heh
mnathani_: or have to look it up
mercutio: 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 etc aren't actually advertised as open dns afaik
they've just been open forever and seem to work :)
http://www.tummy.com/articles/famous-dns-server/
hmm deosn't realyl say much
acf___: yea.. 8.8.8.8 has been having some issues
I think 4.2.2.2 has started doing those stupid search page things
mercutio: wow
acf___: hmm.. it's returning NXDOMAIN now, that's good
mercutio: dmanit i tried to guess a non-existant domain name and of course it was taken
acf___: a while ago it was redirecting to a Level3 search page
mercutio: seems fine from here
Host www.asdasdjkl.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
that was to 4.2.2.1
probably sj node
oh nah it's los angeles.
acf___: http://james.bertelson.me/blog/2014/01/level-3-are-now-hijacking-failed-dns-requests-for-ad-revenue-on-4-2-2-x/
mercutio: i've only ever used it for testing
acf___: yea.. I use the Google and HE anycast servers
mercutio: why not your isp servers?
acf___: dns hijacking
mercutio: oh
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