#arpnetworks 2015-05-31,Sun

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mercutio

so you pay for a cross connect and get another full port?

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mnathani_

I don't really know. Was just joking

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mercutio

ahh ok

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grody

i hate my mobile carrier
they are shaping/throttling my downloads from google play, to 5kb/s
they give me unlimited data and throttle me to dialup modem after 4GB
oddly.. if i sshtunnel or ovpn out from phone, i get max speeds for about an hour, then throttled again

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phlux

So, what are you guys using for IRCd/services these days
Since Charybdis/Atheme are no longer under development
I really don't like the idea of InspIRCd
Nothing against them, I just don't need all of those features..I get that it's modular and I can disable half of the shit, but what's the point of running/compiling something that large when I'm only going to use half of it?

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JC_Denton

Nefarious + X3
i like that combo

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grody

was about to say.. Nefarious+X3 is a common combo on the IRCs i lurk on
if you want serious small time (single node and handful of users) 27555MHz8008135
oops
wont be using that password again :D
more curious to why openwrt actually lets me copy the password when it's ******'d out
to append what i was saying.. ngircd is quite nice for smalltime

[12:56]

JC_Denton

X3 is a great services package

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brycec

lol numeric "boobies"

[13:27]

phlux

last I checked, Nefarious and X3 had some serious IPv6 issues
Not to mention the SSL issues and lack of SASL support

[13:31]

JC_Denton

it has working v6 and SSL
not sure what SASL feature you're looking for, but i recommend hitting the dev channel up. it's in #evilnet on AfterNET

[13:36]

phlux

Last I checked, v6 required using a tunnel for Nefarious

[13:38]

grody

brycec, wifi password - i like to keep them easy

[13:51]

JC_Denton

phlux: nah, it's been native for awhile - i run it natively on my network

[13:56]

grody

about to say.. i sit on a network that uses nef+x3 that has native IPv6 and backend auth from services to their webste
^^ Afternet :)

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JC_Denton

irc is such a small world

[15:37]

phlux

JC_Denton: Does it support SASL authentication via any methods?
Most networks don't support SASL EXTERNAL (Charybdis-only feature, I think)
but if it supports any other kind of SASL authentication, I may give it another look
also: I thought Nefarious was developed by evilnet, not afternet :|
https://github.com/evilnet/ircgw <--this used to be the way to do ipv6 with Nefarious. Looks like it still is for their 'nefarious' tree, but maybe not for the nefarious2 tree.

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JC_Denton

it's native in nef2
and evilnet pretty much lives on afternet

[15:50]

phlux

ah
interesting
I'll give it a test run, then. Thanks.

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brycec

Is there a reason you're using IRC instead of something else like XMPP? (most servers support SASL btw)

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mercutio

XMPP servers are plentiful these days

[16:11]

staticsafe

eh its a matter of preference
one can use both

[16:15]

brycec

Sure one can. I was just curious what made IRC a "requirement" for phlux's use case.

[16:19]

mercutio

i was curious about using irc chat for small groups before too.

[16:22]

brycec

We just moved off SILC at work and chose XMPP for the bountiful clients, extensibility, things like server-side logging and channel playback, etc

[16:22]

mercutio

how many people here run their own personal jabber server?

[16:23]

brycec

The ability to join a channel and see the last 100 lines is somewhat important, and something services like Hipchat tout. I don't see any IRC servers that can do that (wtihout each client running a bouncer)
brycec does, now

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mercutio

i shifted from ejabberd to prosody

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brycec

(Well it's not "personal", I run the company's xmpp)

[16:24]

mercutio

ahh

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brycec

I quite like Prosody :)

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mercutio

are you using prosody too? :)

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brycec

I have no reason to run a "personal" XMPP server - who am I going to talk to? (Even with federation,everyone I talk to online is by IRC)
Yup

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mercutio

heh i don't talk to that many people on jabber
i kind of wish it'd take off more. a lot of people use skype :/
i'm still on icq :/

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brycec

My only grievance with XMPP is that JIDs in MUCs are different from the user's own JID (eg: blah@conference.blah.com)

[16:26]

mercutio

ahh

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brycec

So someone double-clicks your nick in the muc and they're chatting /through/ the muc component to "you" and not actual you
brycec could have worded all that better, sorry

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mercutio

byeh that's messsy

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mercutio

hmm arp doesn't support paypal

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RandalSchwartz

nop

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mercutio

yeah i thought it was just amazon that didn't accept paypal that i was using atm :)

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mnathani_

I remember my Icq number from back in the 90s

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brycec

I do too
107019716

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staticsafe

what is ICQ? :)

[19:34]

brycec

@ud ICQ

[19:34]

BryceBot

ICQ: A chat-programm (I SEEK YOU) where you can instant message people in your list.rPeople first get an ICQ number rwhich can be send to others so that they can add you to their buddies list.rFortunantly, there is an "AUTHORIZE" option ,rso random people can't add you if you don't want it when they found ryou through the search option.rrThe best option is the Invisible Mode:rpeople can't see your online status,rexcept if you want them.[19:34] <brycec> I was expecting something worse from UrbanDictionary.

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staticsafe

ICQ wasn't really a thing when I was a kid, mostly MSN Messenger

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mercutio

icq was 90s.
i remember mine too
16276662

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brycec

And here I thought I'd had ICQ for a long time...

[20:02]

mercutio

heh
icq wasn't too bad at first.
then it got lame.
it used to not be bloated etc on windows.
i used to use micq on linux thoug.

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mnathani

17779063

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mercutio

mnathani: sounds like you got on just after me
i've met people with 6 digit though

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mnathani_

my VPS is feeling a bit left out, its on kvr30 and dont think it has been patched as yet
uptime:
01:38:58 up 330 days, 18:57, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.05, 0.06

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http://pastebin.com/UYMbc1b9
packetloss to 8.8.8.8
from my cable connection in Toronto

[22:50]

mercutio

curious no responses from 2nd hop
209.148.245.49 looks like a google ip but i'd have to cehck
nah it's rogers :/

[22:51]

mnathani_

http://pastebin.com/jnJdP38b

[22:58]

mercutio

you can't really tell what's happening from that.
well you can tell it reaches google and doesn't get back to you

[22:59]

mnathani_

could be my ISP or Google
most likely my ISP
or the anycast node I am hitting

[23:04]

mercutio

are normal google services fine?
sometimes i see 8.8.8.8 going somewhere further away, but generally i've found it stable
i just find the performance is terrible.

[23:05]

mnathani_

google search seems to be a bit slow
but working
google.com. 130 IN A 216.58.216.238
although thats an ISP address not Google

[23:05]

mercutio

that's where arp goes
well i'm getting 216.58.216.4 from arp
and it's 0.5 msec ping
well 0.7 avg, 0.5 min

[23:06]

mnathani_

its google actually
hmm

[23:07]

mercutio

i wonder if it goes to los angeles or if it's anycasted
well the name says lax on it :)