#arpnetworks 2015-05-29,Fri

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brycecThis is the nginx config I was goofing around with earlier, if anybody is curious. https://gist.github.com/brycied00d/627ec6c4235405838247 as demonstrated with http://speedtest.brycec.ninja/ and http://speedtest.cobryce.com/ [02:06]
BryceBotGist: "Abusing Nginx Configuration To Serve And Redirect Multiple Subdomains Under a Variable Domain" [02:06]
brycecWow, 8 hits from IrssiUrlLog
4 of them from ipv6 - kudos
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mercutiothat sounds nifty [02:23]
brycecthx
I'm currently replacing speedtest.net's 5 lines of PHP with another nginx block. Going to optimize the dickens out of this.
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mercutiohahaha
their upload test sucks
i really wish could easily do a speedtest not using flash
but i suspect upload may be hard
actually maybe you can do POST request with javascript created data or something?
[02:31]
brycecthere is an html5 speed test out there
speedof.me
(google says there are others too, but that's the one I've used in the past)
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mercutiois it any good?
it's not open soruce is it?
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brycecSeemed good, yeah. Don't think it's open-source or available for self-running [02:34]
mercutioyeah this seems nice.
although it seems to be overestimating my upload speed
uload speed says 10.86 megabit, max upload 22.64
but my connection has 10 megabit vdsl sync, so can't do 10 megabit even after overhead.
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brycecI like their graphs and that it downloads larger and larger files until it's "happy" it has a good average. [02:36]
mercutioyeah it also hilights nicely small vs large files [02:36]
brycecReally? Mine's pretty close to spot-on for the upload @ 13mbps [02:36]
mercutioand ramp up speed etc
what i don't like is it's testing to sydney which is too close
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brycec(I have 10-15 up, don't remember) [02:36]
mercutioi like to test more distant locations to measure speed.
it might be because i usue a local proxy
so it leaves the computer pretty quick
[02:36]
brycecI can see how that would skew things :p [02:37]
mercutioif it's client that says the speed rather than server
buut yeajh, something like this but open soruce would be great :)
definitely the right path.
the last stuff i saw that was html was crap
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grodymercutio, IPv4/48 are sub-addressable IPs - the smaller they appear to be, the larger they actually are [06:25]
mercutiogrody: what [06:25]
grodyseem to have /something/ working here now.. have US and UK working into the backed server
23:42 < mercutio> what would a v4 /48 even be
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mercutiowhat's a sub addressab IP? [06:26]
grodysorry. unsubtle physics moment
like a sub atomic particle
[06:26]
mercutioahh ok i don't know that stufuf
i've been wanting to do multiple location stuff since i was a kid
with accelerating from closer to the user
i wanted to do it before i had the internet with bbs's :)
[06:26]
grodyhehe neat [06:27]
mercutiohaven't done much though heh :/
i was thinking that things ilke input fields and stuff should be accelerated.
and done locally
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grodyi doubt this is accelerating per-se [06:28]
mercutioyeah but you could :) [06:28]
grodyit's more redundancy.. albeit there is still a SPOF [06:28]
mercutioeven just using redir command and doing layer 7 redirection accelerates performance
yaeh
are you doing ospf or something within your vpn's?
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grodyatm no.. it's all static (which I need to fix) [06:29]
mercutiothe problem with a network over a network is failover times can still suck
so you need to do bfd or such
well if you want to create a "more reliable network"
[06:29]
grodyhm
i have the servers in a VLAN, which are interconnected via a L2TP LNS (via their respective LACs) and using HAProxy on the internet facing
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mercutioi suppose that could work [06:33]
grodydid try simple forwards, but had the issue of the server replying out of the wrong route [06:33]
mercutiothe thing is most outages these days are really short
it's usually ddos with rapid mitigation
so frequent short outages to some of the net is the common issue
[06:33]
grodyi have to be grateful for one thing so far.. and touching wood here, i have yet never been dDoSsed massively [06:34]
mercutioso you need a really frequent heart beat to do better than it [06:34]
grodyyea, L2TP isn't the best VPN type to use due to it being a session [06:34]
mercutioi have but it was a very long time ago [06:34]
grodywill be an IPSEC/GRE eventually [06:34]
mercutioit's cos i logged into efnet [06:34]
grodyL2TPv3 would be nice mind [06:34]
mercutioand someone wanted my nick [06:34]
grodyhah [06:35]
mercutioyeh efnet is a jungle
i can see why some providers used to say that efnet irc wasn't allowed in particular :)
they really need bots.
[06:35]
grodyi used to get "attacked" a lot from Quakenet [06:35]
mercutioi dunno if efnet is even still going. [06:35]
grodyport scans, ping o death attempts, IGMP frag attacks etc [06:35]
mercutioback when the internet was new you used to be able to ctcp ping +++ATH0 sequence or just put it in a normal icmp ping
and it'd disconnect users that received it.
[06:36]
grodyhahaha yea i remember that [06:36]
mercutioit didn't work with people with usr etc modem.
but it worked on cheap dynalinks etc.
[06:36]
grodywas mitigatable using relevent S0=0 (and similar) AT commands modem init [06:36]
mercutiobecause they didn't want to pay the fee for the delay
ahh ok i didn't know that.
i thought it was amusing
i don't think all these high bandwidth ddos's these days are though
[06:36]
grodyi used to get it a lot, then bought a rockwell modem that appeared to specifically address it [06:37]
mercutiowith windows 95 you used to be able to arp flood local machines and lock them up too. [06:37]
grodywin98 used to send IGMP fragments and it'd BSOD [06:38]
mercutioi assume it operated at a high precedence and wasn't very efficient. [06:38]
grodysounds like wifi of today.. push some multicast packets over the air and boom
it slows to a crawl
[06:38]
mercutioeven just using wifi normally can slow it to a crawl.
there's no protection from one user stealing all the bandwidth normally
[06:39]
grodythink i only use wifi now on things that have no choice for it [06:39]
mercutiothere's a bit of protectio on the ubiquity etc gear i think. [06:40]
grodyi do have a lot of RTP flowing through my net and that reaps havock too
aye, ubi are epic
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mercutiothey'd doing fq_codel
it's good that's starting to catch on.
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grodyooh [06:41]
mercutiounifi uap-ac sucks btw. [06:41]
grodyi have a couple of the bullets, a 2.4 and a 5
for the most part, i seem to get full wifi performance (until my own wireless G joins)
that thing kills most wifis
would upgrade that device, but it is the most reliable VoIP phone i have
aight, i managed to not break anything in that round of mods - i bet you by the time i get to my next destination, something barfs
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grodynk
d'oh
typing in the dark again and i have no idea why i havent turned my lamp on
"how did you setup pfsense on a VPS with only an internet facing network adaptor"
ur, well, thats easy.. i remove default route via the VNC access, static route to my trusted IP.. set it up via web browser
shit some people amaze me
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mnathani@weather -v yyz [16:01]
BryceBotToronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 73°F (23°C), Humidity: 53%, Wind: From the ESE at 9 MPH, Pressure: 30.09inHg (1019mb) and falling, Dewpoint: 55°F (13°C), Visibility: 15Mi (24km), UV index: 2, Sunrise 05:41, Sunset: 20:50, Lunar phase: Waxing gibbous
Friday: Partly Cloudy 77°F/65°F (25°C/18°C) | Saturday: Thunderstorm 82°F/49°F (28°C/9°C) | Sunday: Chance of Rain 60°F/46°F (16°C/8°C) | Monday: Chance of Rain 67°F/49°F (19°C/9°C)
The average high for this date is 65°F (18°C), and the record of 93°F (33°C) was set in 2006. The average low is 48°F (8°C), and the record of 39°F (3°C) was set in 2004
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up_the_ironshi [18:10]
RandalSchwartzhi [18:11]
brycechi [18:11]
mnathanihi [18:18]
mnathani_hi [18:19]
BryceBothi [18:20]
KILLALLHUMANS01hi [18:20]
mnathani_I wish I had a bot right about now who could greet the channel [18:20]
brycechi
damn you BryceBot
hi
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BryceBothi [18:22]
up_the_ironsYES
i started it
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brycecDidn't Alex82 start it 8 hours ago?
(before grody messed it up)
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m0undshaha [18:33]
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mercutioheya [19:13]
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RandalSchwartz... http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/05/29/california_s_snowpack_now_zero_percent_of_normal_a_worst_case_scenario_for.html
still waiting for the day when the hotel tells me I can shower only every other day
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m0undsheh
CA lived in denial for a loooong time wrt water and stuff
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mercutioFrom what I understand a lot if people in CA water their gardens too much - but that pales in comparison to agricultural use of water. [19:54]
m0undsright [19:54]
mercutioAnd a lot of the agricultural water use should just be moved to better suited locations. [19:54]
m0undsand it's all early 20th century style open channel irrigation
totally irresponsible and stupid
[19:54]
RandalSchwartzthey're also trying to water a desert [19:54]
m0undsand they let it go on forever, and now it's like "oh shit, we don't have water"
RandalSchwartz: right
i live in the desert, but the water use in my city is roughly 1/3 of the per capita use in LA area
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mercutioper-capita is the wrong way to look at things. [19:55]
m0undsit's to the point that people here conserve enough water that the utility authority has trouble paying for stuff because their revenue is down year after year [19:55]
RandalSchwartzmy SSD-based freebsd 10 box on DigitalOcean reboots *so* fast. [19:55]
mercutioSSD's do seem to help reboot performance a bit. [19:56]
RandalSchwartzping fail time about 10 seconds. :) [19:56]
mercutioBut IME it's not actually as much difference as you'd think it would be. There are a lot of contributing factors.
ARP has an in built delay in the BIOS so people can hit with VNC easier.
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RandalSchwartztrue [19:56]
mercutioI'd like that toggleable myself :)
but at the end of the day i hardly ever reboot.
And it definitely is annoying catching console with VNC..
It'd be a lot easier if VNC would let you connect before it started booting.
But if you do a force restart you have to wait until mid way through, then connect.
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brycecheh, yeah... If ARP could start kvm suspended and wait for you to attach to the monitor to resume...
But in the end, extending the boot delay is probably easier for most users.
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mercutiodid you see alternative bios for kvm?
it's meant to speed up boot time a lot, but can only boot linux afaik
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brycecHeard about it, yeah [20:05]
mercutioit has no vga console even i think [20:06]
brycecYeah I think the kernel parameters are hardcoded. [20:07]
mercutiobut i suspect it should be possible to get down to < 200 msec boot times if you did magic with initialisation
and basically did copy on write from a pre loaded kernel
it should be possible doesn't mean easy
you still have things like disk, startup scripts etc.
i suspect that some minor things should be able to be taken out of seabios, like floppy support, ..
and to get some improvement without all the complications
there were heaps of ideas going around to improve linux boot times before ssd's became common
with doing things like figuring out what disk blocks would be needed etc.
changing init handlers of device drivers, doing async init etc.
but somewhere along the line, it now seems things haven't really got any faster recently
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