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NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks brycec: Anyone else lose connectivity to kvr19 for a bit? RandalSchwartz: does arp use qemu?
and if so, are we affected by Venom? brycec: Yes and yes RandalSchwartz: I presume the guys in charge are on it?
I just got a notice from Elastichosts that I have to stop/start my box brycec: Yes up_the_irons is aware and said he'll be patching and rebooting VMs RandalSchwartz: cool
ok... one box down. :) brycec: RandalSchwartz: Oh is up_the_irons already rebooting VM's? RandalSchwartz: No... this was at elastichosts
I wonder what digitalocean uses m0unds: they released an advisory about it
some of their boxes weren't affected, the ones that were are being patched or something to that effect
https://www.digitalocean.com/company/blog/update-on-CVE-2015-3456/ RandalSchwartz: Ahh, thanks ***: jcv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
jcv has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: there's actually no known exploit for this yet RandalSchwartz: true
I wonder if the wosign "free" certs can be cracked by the chinese government mjp___: as long as your dont share your private key :) RandalSchwartz: Ahh... right. you don't give them everything to be you.
but I wonder if the cert chain might allow them to fake secure.example.com on the fly
like some deep-inspection hotspots I've been on BryceBot: That's what she said!! mjp___: your browser either trusts the CA or it doesnt, up to you
i'm sure all nations have some sort of backdoor/frontdoor into a root CA up their sleeves but would not use them much as it wouldnt be easily detectable
*would RandalSchwartz: well .. this particular hotspot clearly intercepts https because all my mac apps bitch wildly
so I just fire up openvpn, and all done. :)
"deep inspect *this*, guys" BryceBot: That's what she said!! grody: curious, looking over the messy arrangement of my virtual desktops and find a shell logged into my ARP.. that was initiated 16 days ago
i did wonder where that other user was, can get really annoying rebuilding a host
really should use tmux more RandalSchwartz: tmux rocks
will never return to screen
swore by screen grody: i only used to use screen because -U allowed UTF over a freebsd terminal.. but tmux seems to do it out of the box now RandalSchwartz: now swear at screen mercutio: haha i always swore at screen :)
buit i still used it RandalSchwartz: yeah I have Terminal.app -> ssh -> tmux -> emacs -> shell-mode
with a full utf-8 path mercutio: how do you verify utf? grody: ♥
what do you see? mercutio: that utf is working grody: :) RandalSchwartz: ☺︎ mercutio: like is there some easy program to show utf characters. RandalSchwartz: I see you have a heart on
in the mac, it's a "special characters... " usually under edit. grody: tbh i haven't really tested other than via irssi and my stupid alias sets mercutio: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt grody: but some ncurses stuff uses utf and it goes all blocky mercutio: hmm proverbs in the amharic language arne't showing for me
they're not showing in chrome either
????????????????????????
haha
ok this isn't working :) grody: ff seems to work, but i am using ff on linsux
will check the fbsd...
that seems to work too
ahh, but i see more dominoes on the fbsd mercutio: hmm it's cos LANG wasn't set grody: the new syscons on freebsd is meant to support utf out of the box too, it does work for the most part
it also lets me run the cli at native resolutions too, which is always nice
cons25 is a total no go without screen -U
hah.. nice.. ♥ those currency conversions
even with foreign currency fee, my ARP only cost me 13.04 last month :D
cheaper (by quite a bit in fact) than any EU provider for same specs (and no bs as standard)
even when i was reselling, i was being wholsaled at 13.99
<cheese> what i ♥ most is the fact i dont have to constanstly check up on my ARP</cheese>
on which note, i need a beer, bath & bed RandalSchwartz: a beer bath? grody: i'd hop into one!
think i need to get a new boiler, this one is seriously paking the tiss RandalSchwartz: boiler? mercutio: i think it's some english thing
maybe coal burner? RandalSchwartz: or hot water tank? mercutio: oh
maybe :) m0unds: yea, that's what i was thinking (hot water tank) mercutio: i was thinking fire of some kind :) RandalSchwartz: well.. hot water tanks have fire mercutio: not normally :)
it's usually electric
at least here m0unds: gas is pretty common in the US RandalSchwartz: I prefer gas m0unds: natural gas
yea, same here mercutio: doesn't gas cause explosions? RandalSchwartz: it can mercutio: i thought gas was bad because of the hurricances in the US? m0unds: and electrical stuff can catch fire
pick your poison mercutio: hurricanes even m0unds: realize that there's a whole lot of US not anywhere near hurricane territory RandalSchwartz: no hurricanes outside south and east mercutio: oh right
they do cover a lot of distance
but the size is quite big compared to what i'm used to :) m0unds: yea, my state is approximately the same land area as new zealand mercutio: that's small
california is way bigger than new zealand m0unds: it sure is
NM is the 5th largest in the US RandalSchwartz: yeah - more of all of new england
california is bigger than middle earth mercutio: we've been getting little tornados here recently RandalSchwartz: tornadoes mercutio: california is less than twice the size of new zealnd
wow
that surprised me :)
hmm and new zealand is bigger than florida
which is one of the places that doesn't have gas
so how does gas go in an earthquake?
oh there's special cut off valves apparently grody: hot water tank mercutio: grody: is it gas, or coal, or electric? grody: usually a gas boiler (inline heater), which im going to have installed
electric atm
it plays havock on the bill too, gas one would be much cheaper m0unds: FL is weird mercutio: wow, so russia apparently pipes hot water around the country m0unds: that's very russian
hahah mercutio: and you can't control the temperature grody: sounds odd, isn't it mostly cold there?#
eek mercutio: m0unds: florida seems like the closest match to nz in some ways
because it's got water on both sides of the state
i think some of california does too?
buut not neearly as much of it m0unds: umm, baha i guess
baja
baha. lol mercutio: more similar levels of wetness etc brycec: baja isn't California though, that's part of Mexico.
(Sheesh does nobody learn their Mexican states? >.>)
<.< RandalSchwartz: uh... not really
upper baja was in fact california
lower baja is the peninsula
the mexicans have good claim all the way up to san jose area brycec: No part of California has a major body of water on anywhere but the western border. -: brycec is looking a map and everything RandalSchwartz: that's also true brycec: Cali stops at Tijuana. The whole baja is Mexico. RandalSchwartz: no
baja norte extends to san jose brycec: You and I have different definitions of baja apparently RandalSchwartz: I'm going based on the historical truths, before the mexicans were forced out brycec: I'm going with *current* geographical boundaries. RandalSchwartz: yeah - after we forced them brycec: RandalSchwartz: http://www.map-of-mexico.co.uk/map-of-bajacalifornianorte.htm shows Baja Norte going only as far as Tijuana RandalSchwartz: sure, that's what the revisionists will say
notice the .uk there
give me a url with .mx :) brycec: RandalSchwartz: http://cachanilla69.blogspot.mx/2013/02/mexico-breve-historia-de-la-division_3.html RandalSchwartz: heh... in spanish
now I have to translate. :) brycec: You live in California and you don't speak Spanish? Now that's really weird :P
(You did ask for a .mx) RandalSchwartz: I do not live in california
I live in Oregon brycec: oh my bad then
s/California/the USA BryceBot: <brycec> You live in the USA and you don't speak Spanish? Now that's really weird :P RandalSchwartz: and I'm slowly learning spanish
but not fast enough -: RandalSchwartz relocates RandalSchwartz: upgrading freebsd 8.4 to 9.3 for $client milki: hm...i need to upgrade too RandalSchwartz: yeah 8.4 is EOLed next month
thankfully my client let me experiment with him
so then I can take mine forward sometime in the past next weeks
if tonight his main machine goes 8.4 to 9.3, I'll be confident of taking mine foward.
wooo... got pings after my reboot to the 9.3 kernel
I may be done ahead of schedule :) brycec: twss BryceBot: Okay! twss! 'I may be done ahead of schedule :)' RandalSchwartz: yeah, everything just worked
just telling up_the_irons that he is not needed tonight ***: hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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