[02:44] * up_the_irons tries UBlock [03:51] what'd you think of it [03:58] haven't used it enough to notice a difference, but i bet it's faster [03:58] it was very noticable for me [03:58] i've found chrome getting slower over time, and i thought it was just chrome [03:58] but it was adblock [03:59] i have this problem of sometimes swap getting all eaten up and then disk crunch for MINUTES until i can kill a few chrome windows. if that doesn't happen anymore, i'll know it was adblock :) [03:59] of course you have to disable the other adblock for it to be faster [03:59] ahh, yeh my chrome can use 16gb of ram [03:59] i just uninstalled adblock [03:59] are you using a laptop? [03:59] yup [03:59] so you're already maxing out the ram? [03:59] try ramzswap? [04:01] the web page suggests it was about 20% better than adblock for total memory usage. [04:01] apparently the extension memory usage isn't the only memory usage. [04:01] buut then it just means you can open 20% more web pages. [04:01] lol yeah [04:37] hmm, apnic whois is broken [07:09] jesus [07:09] chrome adblock memory use via chrome task mgr on osx = 309MB following filter list update; ublock = 128MB [07:09] i wonder if that's accurate [07:10] CPU load is significantly lower too, almost 60% [07:11] (when loading a specific set of pages) [07:11] it defaults to subscribing to mdl, but that's sort of worthless so i removed it [07:12] mdl is supposed to be early lifecycle for malicious payloads, but it's usually delayed 24hrs or more, so most hosts have been dealt with by the time it hits the list [07:12] s/be/include [07:12] mdl is supposed to include early lifecycle for malicious payloads, but it's usually delayed 24hrs or more, so most hosts have includeen dealt with by the time it hits the list [07:50] I'm liking uBlock so far. Seems like it might be faster and such. I like its features better - showing number of blocked requests and a running request log that shows each request and what (if any) rule/pattern matched [07:50] * brycec really likes having that [07:50] That's what she said!! [07:55] yeah, it's pretty nice [07:56] chrome-extension://cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm/logger-ui.html so shiny [08:00] (It's also pretty interesting to me to see what requests are being made behind the scenes, like the Chromecast extension chatting UPNP with other network devices) [08:01] snazzy [08:02] chrome://net-internals/#events [08:03] Yeah but that's just mad [08:03] yeah, has everything [08:03] That's a firehose view [08:03] That's what she said!! [08:03] yup [08:03] BryceBot: no [08:03] Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'That's a firehose view' [08:03] lol [08:03] that's sort of relevant, hahaha [08:03] handy for diagnosis though, esp if you know what you're looking for [08:04] i used it to debug a proxy bug in chromium that was causing ipv6 stuff die [08:04] causing ipv6 stuff to die* [08:04] fun fun [08:05] i think it's still broken [10:03] *** hazardous has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [10:08] *** hazardous has joined #arpnetworks [11:50] *** qbit has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [11:53] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [11:53] *** qbit is now known as Guest90427 [11:56] *** Guest90427 is now known as qbit [13:41] *** jcv has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [13:41] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [14:05] *** awyeah has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:35] m0unds: does mdl have false positives you mean? [15:35] or it's just redundant? [15:37] for the archlinux users : Am I doing something wrong? My mouse does not switch icons when hovering over links in Chrome and Chromium [15:38] *** mnathani__ is now known as mnathani_ [15:38] works for me... [15:38] That's what she said!! [15:38] Not sure what you /could/ be doing wrong necessarily [15:38] perhaps your wm isn't giving focus [15:38] i think that's probably a chrome or desktop issue rather than arch issue [15:38] "works for me" too [15:38] (definitely not an "Arch issue") [15:39] same behaviour in kde and gnome [15:39] I am running arch in a virtualbox VM [15:39] mercutio: false positives in a way - the list is supposed to be "early lifecycle" distribution sites, but they're delayed by many hours so stuff is usually mitigated well before it's listed [15:40] ahh maybe i should disable it [15:40] so when it's listed, it's already been addressed by either the NOC where the box is hosted or by the hosting company or whatever [15:40] oh there's not many [15:40] mnathani_: Using seamless mouse integration? [15:41] http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/mdl.php that's the actual list (warning, has bad stuff) [15:42] it's just not a very good source for building a blocklist for a browser [15:42] this sort of stuff looks fine to keep on my list [15:42] * m0unds shrugs [15:42] if it's hosted stuff like this recently i'm not too concerned [15:42] like i said, when it's useful, it's not listed [15:43] do you really need to go to agsteier.com/BANK_STORAGE-DATA/new.payment-document.html [15:43] when it hits the list, it's usually already gone and so you're just wasting time/whatever having the list active in ublock or whatever [15:43] how much diff to performance doe sit make [15:43] you want it to have stuff that is currently a danger, not stuff that was dangerous a week ago [15:43] true [15:44] if you're using chrome (and i assume chromium ships with it too, but i could be wrong) the built-in URL and file reputation stuff is going to do a better job than mdl [15:44] ok [15:45] i love it how pages pause less randomly [15:45] it just seems so much smoother [15:45] yeah, after spending the day with it on my mac i've noticed a significant improvement [15:45] i wonder if there's garbage collection or something happening with adblock plus [15:45] it uses significantly less CPU per ad-heavy page, and much less RAM [15:46] yeah i disabled adblock temp when i was having issues [15:46] adn i was surprised how much faster the net was [15:46] buut it's so unbelievably difficult to deal with ads these days [15:46] i always forget how bad it is [15:46] usually it's only on other peoples computers i notice lots of ads [15:46] i was watching task manager in chrome when loading an ad-heavy site vs ublock, and it was crazy to compare the two [15:46] my browsing on windows using chrome has much better performance using uBlock origin [15:46] and i wonder if they have a virus or something [15:47] but in the end it's just "the normal internet" [15:47] like "click here to buy", "you have won", "girls waiting for you" [15:47] blah blah [15:47] yeah [15:47] "YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT PEOPLE IN $your_geoip_location THINK ABOUT THIS CONTROVERSIAL WEBSITE" [15:47] yeah it gets my geoip location wrong though [15:48] well it's off by like 1000km [15:48] yeah, it thinks i'm in kansas [15:48] usually [15:48] i think it's fununy when people think all of google servers are in mountain view [15:48] yeah [15:49] yeah mountain view is a good place to stick all of google servers. [15:49] do people have no idea how to link between "likely" / "unlikely" [15:49] a while ago, one of my less tech savvy friends posted some thing about the nginx virus infecting peoples' computers (reposted from someone else) [15:49] hahahha [15:49] because they kept seeing nginx errors on popular sites [15:49] say what [15:49] nginx has 95% of the spdy market [15:49] exactly, lol [15:50] that figure surprised me uuntil i tired to figure out how to do spdy with apache [15:50] it's one word to enable spdy if you have the right nginx package. [15:50] and there's newer versions of nginx available for ubuntu etc [15:50] from nginx itself as an apt rep [15:50] yeah, lots of options to install it too [15:50] yeah [15:51] yeah on arch i'm using some weird nginx version [15:51] well on one server [15:51] hmm it's 1.8 [15:51] nginx version: nginx/1.8.0 [15:51] built with OpenSSL 1.0.1l-freebsd 15 Jan 2015 [15:51] i've been having a problem with nginx at home thouugh [15:51] TLS SNI support enabled [15:51] that's what i'm on [15:51] built with OpenSSL 1.0.2a 19 Mar 2015 [15:51] you have old openssl :) [15:52] ubuntu justu released tls 1.2 support for precise. [15:52] although i thought i'd just updated nginx [15:52] $ openssl version [15:52] yeah i have 1.8.0 too [15:52] LibreSSL 2.1 [15:52] :P [15:52] haha [15:52] oh, 1.8.0_1,2 [15:53] that's what my openbsd box says too brycec :) [15:53] Good :) [15:53] openbsd has stable nginx version though [15:53] but yeah i'v ebeen having this issue with sendfile on nginx [15:53] i get random 200 msec delays. [15:53] it's fine with lighttpd. [15:54] but if i disable sendfile the performance is much lower than lighttpd [15:54] but 9/10 times there seems to be an extra 200msec delay. [15:54] that's testing to localhost [15:54] i was playing with nopush on/off, and read some stuff, and was still confused. [15:55] but now i'm wondering if that hits aeny other sites? or if it's to do with me testing to localhost. [15:56] has anyone heard of zorin os? [15:56] i don't know how people find these weird linux distribuutions [15:57] rebecca black linux [15:58] justin bieber linux [15:58] http://biebian.sourceforge.net/ [15:58] hahahaha [16:23] *** grody has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:23] *** grody has joined #arpnetworks [17:10] *** awyeah has joined #arpnetworks [18:15] next person to mention Bieber Linux gets kline'd [18:16] * up_the_irons became a 13 year old script kiddie for a second... [18:16] lol [18:20] haha [18:20] well it is a joke [18:23] But up_the_irons doesn't have permissions to kline... [18:24] (ie. not an ircop) [18:24] heh [18:24] even if he did i don't think freenode would like people doing such things. [18:24] who said i'd do it myself... [18:24] touche [18:25] there's something really lame about going to data centres to replace hard-drives. [18:26] i must thank toeshred all the time for doing that for me ;) [18:26] heh. 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