mercutio: what'd you think of it
up_the_irons: haven't used it enough to notice a difference, but i bet it's faster
mercutio: it was very noticable for me
i've found chrome getting slower over time, and i thought it was just chrome
but it was adblock
up_the_irons: i have this problem of sometimes swap getting all eaten up and then disk crunch for MINUTES until i can kill a few chrome windows. if that doesn't happen anymore, i'll know it was adblock :)
mercutio: of course you have to disable the other adblock for it to be faster
ahh, yeh my chrome can use 16gb of ram
up_the_irons: i just uninstalled adblock
mercutio: are you using a laptop?
up_the_irons: yup
mercutio: so you're already maxing out the ram?
try ramzswap?
the web page suggests it was about 20% better than adblock for total memory usage.
apparently the extension memory usage isn't the only memory usage.
buut then it just means you can open 20% more web pages.
up_the_irons: lol yeah
mercutio: hmm, apnic whois is broken
m0unds: jesus
chrome adblock memory use via chrome task mgr on osx = 309MB following filter list update; ublock = 128MB
i wonder if that's accurate
CPU load is significantly lower too, almost 60%
(when loading a specific set of pages)
it defaults to subscribing to mdl, but that's sort of worthless so i removed it
mdl is supposed to be early lifecycle for malicious payloads, but it's usually delayed 24hrs or more, so most hosts have been dealt with by the time it hits the list
s/be/include
BryceBot: <m0unds> mdl is supposed to include early lifecycle for malicious payloads, but it's usually delayed 24hrs or more, so most hosts have includeen dealt with by the time it hits the list
brycec: I'm liking uBlock so far. Seems like it might be faster and such. I like its features better - showing number of blocked requests and a running request log that shows each request and what (if any) rule/pattern matched
-: brycec really likes having that
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
m0unds: yeah, it's pretty nice
brycec: chrome-extension://cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm/logger-ui.html so shiny
(It's also pretty interesting to me to see what requests are being made behind the scenes, like the Chromecast extension chatting UPNP with other network devices)
m0unds: snazzy
chrome://net-internals/#events
brycec: Yeah but that's just mad
m0unds: yeah, has everything
brycec: That's a firehose view
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
m0unds: yup
brycec: BryceBot: no
BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'That's a firehose view'
m0unds: lol
that's sort of relevant, hahaha
handy for diagnosis though, esp if you know what you're looking for
i used it to debug a proxy bug in chromium that was causing ipv6 stuff die
causing ipv6 stuff to die*
brycec: fun fun
m0unds: i think it's still broken
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mercutio: m0unds: does mdl have false positives you mean?
or it's just redundant?
mnathani__: for the archlinux users : Am I doing something wrong? My mouse does not switch icons when hovering over links in Chrome and Chromium
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brycec: works for me...
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
brycec: Not sure what you /could/ be doing wrong necessarily
perhaps your wm isn't giving focus
mercutio: i think that's probably a chrome or desktop issue rather than arch issue
"works for me" too
brycec: (definitely not an "Arch issue")
mnathani_: same behaviour in kde and gnome
I am running arch in a virtualbox VM
m0unds: mercutio: false positives in a way - the list is supposed to be "early lifecycle" distribution sites, but they're delayed by many hours so stuff is usually mitigated well before it's listed
mercutio: ahh maybe i should disable it
m0unds: so when it's listed, it's already been addressed by either the NOC where the box is hosted or by the hosting company or whatever
mercutio: oh there's not many
brycec: mnathani_: Using seamless mouse integration?
m0unds: http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/mdl.php that's the actual list (warning, has bad stuff)
it's just not a very good source for building a blocklist for a browser
mercutio: this sort of stuff looks fine to keep on my list
-: m0unds shrugs
mercutio: if it's hosted stuff like this recently i'm not too concerned
m0unds: like i said, when it's useful, it's not listed
mercutio: do you really need to go to agsteier.com/BANK_STORAGE-DATA/new.payment-document.html
m0unds: when it hits the list, it's usually already gone and so you're just wasting time/whatever having the list active in ublock or whatever
mercutio: how much diff to performance doe sit make
m0unds: you want it to have stuff that is currently a danger, not stuff that was dangerous a week ago
mercutio: true
m0unds: if you're using chrome (and i assume chromium ships with it too, but i could be wrong) the built-in URL and file reputation stuff is going to do a better job than mdl
mercutio: ok
i love it how pages pause less randomly
it just seems so much smoother
m0unds: yeah, after spending the day with it on my mac i've noticed a significant improvement
mercutio: i wonder if there's garbage collection or something happening with adblock plus
m0unds: it uses significantly less CPU per ad-heavy page, and much less RAM
mercutio: yeah i disabled adblock temp when i was having issues
adn i was surprised how much faster the net was
buut it's so unbelievably difficult to deal with ads these days
i always forget how bad it is
usually it's only on other peoples computers i notice lots of ads
m0unds: i was watching task manager in chrome when loading an ad-heavy site vs ublock, and it was crazy to compare the two
mnathani_: my browsing on windows using chrome has much better performance using uBlock origin
mercutio: and i wonder if they have a virus or something
but in the end it's just "the normal internet"
like "click here to buy", "you have won", "girls waiting for you"
blah blah
m0unds: yeah
"YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT PEOPLE IN $your_geoip_location THINK ABOUT THIS CONTROVERSIAL WEBSITE"
mercutio: yeah it gets my geoip location wrong though
well it's off by like 1000km
m0unds: yeah, it thinks i'm in kansas
usually
mercutio: i think it's fununy when people think all of google servers are in mountain view
m0unds: yeah
mercutio: yeah mountain view is a good place to stick all of google servers.
do people have no idea how to link between "likely" / "unlikely"
m0unds: a while ago, one of my less tech savvy friends posted some thing about the nginx virus infecting peoples' computers (reposted from someone else)
mercutio: hahahha
m0unds: because they kept seeing nginx errors on popular sites
mercutio: say what
nginx has 95% of the spdy market
m0unds: exactly, lol
mercutio: that figure surprised me uuntil i tired to figure out how to do spdy with apache
it's one word to enable spdy if you have the right nginx package.
and there's newer versions of nginx available for ubuntu etc
from nginx itself as an apt rep
m0unds: yeah, lots of options to install it too
yeah
mercutio: yeah on arch i'm using some weird nginx version
well on one server
hmm it's 1.8
m0unds: nginx version: nginx/1.8.0
built with OpenSSL 1.0.1l-freebsd 15 Jan 2015
mercutio: i've been having a problem with nginx at home thouugh
m0unds: TLS SNI support enabled
that's what i'm on
mercutio: built with OpenSSL 1.0.2a 19 Mar 2015
you have old openssl :)
ubuntu justu released tls 1.2 support for precise.
m0unds: although i thought i'd just updated nginx
brycec: $ openssl version
mercutio: yeah i have 1.8.0 too
brycec: LibreSSL 2.1
:P
mercutio: haha
m0unds: oh, 1.8.0_1,2
mercutio: that's what my openbsd box says too brycec :)
brycec: Good :)
mercutio: openbsd has stable nginx version though
but yeah i'v ebeen having this issue with sendfile on nginx
i get random 200 msec delays.
it's fine with lighttpd.
but if i disable sendfile the performance is much lower than lighttpd
but 9/10 times there seems to be an extra 200msec delay.
that's testing to localhost
i was playing with nopush on/off, and read some stuff, and was still confused.
but now i'm wondering if that hits aeny other sites? or if it's to do with me testing to localhost.
has anyone heard of zorin os?
i don't know how people find these weird linux distribuutions
phlux: rebecca black linux
justin bieber linux
mercutio: http://biebian.sourceforge.net/
hahahaha
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up_the_irons: next person to mention Bieber Linux gets kline'd
-: up_the_irons became a 13 year old script kiddie for a second...
staticsafe: lol
mercutio: haha
well it is a joke
brycec: But up_the_irons doesn't have permissions to kline...
(ie. not an ircop)
mercutio: heh
even if he did i don't think freenode would like people doing such things.
up_the_irons: who said i'd do it myself...
brycec: touche
mercutio: there's something really lame about going to data centres to replace hard-drives.
up_the_irons: i must thank toeshred all the time for doing that for me ;)
mercutio: heh.
up_the_irons: it doesn't feel so bad if you're actually doing something :)
up_the_irons: :)
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