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mnathani_: @weather -v yyz
BryceBot: Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Overcast ☠61°F (16°C), Humidity: 52%, Wind: From the SE at 8 MPH, Pressure: 30.29inHg (1026mb) and falling, Dewpoint: 43°F (6°C), Visibility: 15Mi (24km), UV index: 2, Sunrise 06:05, Sunset: 20:25, Lunar phase: Full moon
<br> <u>Tuesday</u>: Partly Cloudy 61°F/48°F (16°C/9°C) | Wednesday: Partly Cloudy 71°F/50°F (22°C/10°C) | Thursday: Partly Cloudy 76°F/56°F (24°C/13°C) | Friday: Clear 84°F/61°F (29°C/16°C)
<br> The average high for this date is 61°F (16°C), and the record of 82°F (27°C) was set in 2000. The average low is 44°F (6°C), and the record of 26°F (-3°C) was set in 2002
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grody: hmm.. anyone else tinkering with windows 10TP?
<br> mine is now undergoing some kind of reinstall/upgrade
<br> @weather sou
BryceBot: Southampton International, United Kingdom: Mostly Cloudy ☠52°F (11°C), Humidity: 76%, Wind: From the SW at 20 MPH Gusting to 33 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=50.94987869,-1.35853004 or re-request this with: @weather -v sou
grody: neat
mercutio: <u>grody</u>: i've got windows 10tp
<br> <u>grody</u>: are you on slow path?
<br> the updates take forever.
<br> it does this hge reinstall thing that takes over 20 minutes
grody: i've got a black screen, white text, blue disc with a percentile mark.. telling me it's installing windows
<br> it didn't even look like this installing TP
<br> http://imgur.com/EjXenwU
m0unds: yea, it's doing a release upgrade
grody: ahh.. just as i was about to try testing some android devel apps on it
<br> people are shitting on 8.x as it seems some of the stuff doesn't work.. i thought what the hell
m0unds: on 8.x what?
grody: windows
m0unds: which stuff doesn't work? dev-related?
grody: i cant get my sony semc to work in 8.1 but had flashtool working in 10, but fastboot wouldn't work
m0unds: oh
<br> i have the sdk on my win8 box and it works fine
grody: driver related issues i think
m0unds: yeah, sounds like it
<br> not w/a sony device in my case though
grody: im starting to dislike sony fast
<br> although less than samsung
m0unds: but the drivers for my phone were acquired via windows update without me doing anything
<br> i wish they'd step up their mobile imaging game
<br> they're supposed to be removing some of the "barriers" that existed bw mobile and camera software engineering
<br> so i hope that means they get some of the algorithms in their cameras ported to mobile cameras
grody: yea some devices seem ok with it, but these sonys have a special flash mode outside of adb/fastboot
m0unds: that's weird
<br> is it like the ODIN stuff for samsung devices?
grody: S1 flash protocol or something
m0unds: where you have to bootstrap your device flashing with some middleware thing
grody: yea
m0unds: lame
grody: however ODIN dies if you dd the entire internal emmc
<br> this S1 mode you can still flash firmware back to it if you were stupid enough to do that
<br> seems the samsungs store EVERYTHING on the emmc, wipe it and it wont even power up anymore
<br> not sure wtf the sonys do, but did it for wth (was a dead device anyway) and was still able to bring it into that mode :/
mnathani_: was a new windows 10 tp released?
<br> or insider preview as it is now called
mercutio: <u>mnathani_</u>: it changed names.
<br> i can't remember to what
<br> ok windows 10 pro insider preview build 10074 is what i have
m0unds: yea, from technical preview to insider preview (which is what the name always was for mobile)
<br> three days in a row w/heavy thunderstorms. weird weather for here.
mercutio: sounds exciting
<br> @weather akl
BryceBot: Auckland International, New Zealand: Scattered Clouds 70°F (21°C), Humidity: 68%, Wind: From the North at 15 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl
m0unds: our typical summer weather is thunderstorms most afternoons
mercutio: such boring weather here.
m0unds: but we usually just have really heavy wind in the spring
mercutio: wind is boring :(
<br> i much prefer thunderstorms.
<br> i like it when it's kind of warm and stormy
<br> like a nice pleasant thuunderstorm with lots of exciting lightening
m0unds: yea, the wind we get is usually pretty annoying
mercutio: where the air can feel electric :)
<br> wind can be kind of draining
m0unds: spring and late fall are the worst here
mercutio: apparently it's sub-tropical here now, so we don't have 4 seasons.
m0unds: ~105km/h those times of year
mercutio: ouuch
<br> is that gust?
m0unds: nah, sustained, especially in winter
<br> late fall winter
mercutio: damn that sucks
m0unds: it sucks
mercutio: above 60k starts getting annoying i reckon
m0unds: blows shingles of roofs like crazy
<br> yeah
<br> i can handle it to that point
mnathani_: <u>mercutio</u>: are you running in a VM or on physical Hardware?
m0unds: one year, it lifted an improperly installed radio rig off a verizon wireless tower
<br> threw it on the ground
mercutio: <u>mnathani_</u>: running what?
mnathani_: windows 10
mercutio: physical
<br> i7-3770, 32gb ram, samsung 850 pro 256gb
<br> it still runs out of memory, bloody windows and it's memory leaks.
mnathani_: any performance boost compared to Win 8?
mercutio: well i went from windows 2008
<br> and it boots quicker than windows 2008
<br> performance wise minor things like opening up directories in explorer seems faster.
m0unds: win8 boots pretty fast
<br> i think my power on to desktop is like 15 seconds
mercutio: both 2k8 and 10 are on uefi
<br> with ssd
<br> boot speed isn't really the biggest issue with windows these days
<br> it's still got the bloody annoying "locking up" of the uuser interface
m0unds: i had to diagnose a slow boot issue, turned out teamviewer was adding almost 50 seconds to boot time
mercutio: that os/2 had :/
m0unds: i don't really notice any ui lock-ups
mercutio: it's really noticable when you use synergy
m0unds: like explorer hanging?
mercutio: as you're typing and it sticks down on a key
m0unds: i don't think i've ever seen that in normal use
mercutio: like the whole os locking as you start a 3d application
m0unds: but i don't use synergy
mercutio: like chrome slowing the whole system to a crawl.
m0unds: my windows pc is almost explicitly used for 3d stuff
mercutio: like swapping between 3d app and back to windowis taking forever
m0unds: games and whatnot
mercutio: i dunno i seem to like to hit issues :/
<br> chrome i have to restart all of the time
m0unds: chrome is getting to be more and more of a POS
mercutio: my "low" memory usage is like 6gb
m0unds: you might try some of the chromium builds instead of mainline chrome
mercutio: right now i'm using 204.gb?
m0unds: i found they were annoying in other ways, but i had fewer perf issues
mercutio: i dunno how to read it
m0unds: http://chromium.woolyss.com/
<br> this dude builds chromium for windows, but last time i checked, it's incapable of automatically updating
mercutio: https://weallsee.net/winmem.png
m0unds: jeez, what do you have running?
mercutio: chrome
m0unds: that's it? really?
mercutio: oh skype too
<br> skype is using up 200mb of ram
<br> yeah there's a few windows open in chrome
m0unds: have you looked at the details tab or whatever it is in taskmgr?
mercutio: Google Chrome 43.0.2357.45
m0unds: you can add additional columns w/cached vs in use vs committed memory use
mercutio: 13,540,388k 54,233k 13,594,621k 16,401,432 k 9,800,920 k
<br> the first is private
<br> the fourth is virtual memory private
<br> yeah chrome is such an insane memory hog
m0unds: i stopped using firefox years ago because of that
<br> often saw it referred to as fatfox
mercutio: what do you recommend?
m0unds: i use chrome, but i'm not a huge fan
mercutio: i mean i upgraded from 16gb of ram to 32gb
<br> because i was running out of memory..
m0unds: like i mentioned, i tried the chromium builds and those had other issues like flash not working sometimes
<br> since they don't include pepperflash
mercutio: this is on windows though
m0unds: and sometimes other little quirks, as they're built on more recent code than the stable chrome stuff
<br> yeah
mercutio: on linux i've started to usue firefox
m0unds: that link i sent is builds for windows and osx
mercutio: because chrome seems to keep breaking pages
m0unds: http://chromium.woolyss.com/
<br> scroll down a little
mercutio: i buuilt chrome from source once
m0unds: oh, looks like he started including flash and html av
<br> nice
mercutio: i like the cloud sync stuff
m0unds: http://chromium.woolyss.com/#features
mercutio: it's reall handy for going to things quickly on my cellphone
m0unds: yeah
<br> that's the only reason i still use chrome
<br> that and auto updates
<br> haha
<br> although pushbullet can make it a little easier, you have to actively push links instead of just "having" them there
mercutio: the auto updates doesn't delete old versions
<br> so it gets more and more bloaty
m0unds: oh, yeah
mercutio: i really want some kind of sync stuff that isn't google
m0unds: xmarks sucks
mercutio: but i am not going to develop it myself
<br> i just don't have the ressources to
<br> but it's getting silly being tied into google infrastructure
m0unds: yep
mercutio: and someone should do open soruce versions of core android apps
m0unds: google stopped maintaing a lot of AOSP stuff
<br> which is why the "open source" argument wrt android is amusing to me
<br> it's getting more and more closed each release
<br> you get lower SDK API levels with full open source builds because a lot of the newer stuff is included w/google play svcs
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m0unds: i don't like arstechnica too much, but there was an article they posted last year or the year before about how android keeps getting more and more closed each release and how google is slowly abandoning maintenance of AOSP apps because they provide closed source alternatives on most android powered devices
mercutio: sigh
<br> i acutally want to see development to move towards c, objective-c, d, or something
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
mercutio: this java crap gets in the way
<br> i've noticed people are getting more and more keen on javscript over time
<br> i used to use links in linux to use less memory
<br> it's really hard navigating now days in links
<br> but something more basic seems like a good idea :)
<br> like if 8gb is enough for web browsing easily that'd be a good goal.
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mercutio: if a test web page took up only 64mb of ram etc.
<br> ok so wikipedia main page takes up 83mb of ram
<br> wow spartan takes uup 23.2mb of process ram for just showing that page
<br> oh ther's another process using 74.4mb
<br> so yeh
<br> it's insane
<br> i think facebook uses about half a gig
m0unds: i don't really care about memory use that much
mercutio: i didn't for ages.
<br> it's just that you can't uupgrade desktops to more than 32gb.
m0unds: right
mercutio: and it's kind of stupid when chrome will take ilke half of that memory
<br> also it gets slow
m0unds: this is making me want to fire up my PC and look
mercutio: and accessing a large amount of memory tends to use up more cpu too
m0unds: because i'm pretty sure i rarely break 12-16GB total w/normal use
mercutio: server stuff isn't as bad as desktop stuff these days
<br> chromium has heaps of proceses so it's harder
<br> also things like the spdy indicator icon use 18mb of ram
mnathani: I am running 24 GB on my Windows box
mercutio: 24gb is probably fine
mnathani: and keep running into low memory
<br> lots of chrome tabs
<br> and vms
mercutio: 32gb isn't really a lot better than 16gb.
<br> it juust delays the amount of time betwween it running out of ram
<br> ahh i'm not doing any vm's.
mnathani: are memory leaks hard to fix?
<br> by the vendors
mercutio: tbh, i only stuck the ram in here because windows was rnuning out of ram and saying it had to shut down something
<br> it depends, in code like chrome probably yes.
mnathani: chrome is still way faster than IE or Opera or Firefox
m0unds: FWIW, workstation boards support up to 64 or 128GB of RAM
<br> socket 2011
mercutio: uusually when its' hard is if you have multiple things accesing something, and it doesn't get rid of it when it's no longer needed
<br> firefox used to lock up when web pages were buusy
<br> at least chrome's lockups don't have as much impact
m0unds: it has a single thread for rendering and loading iirc
<br> it only containerizes plugins
<br> there's been some ongoing effort to make it a multiprocess browser so it'll have dedicated ui and rendering threads so it doesn't hang up
mnathani: chrome uses different processes for each tab, correct?
m0unds: but that's been ongoing since like 2008
<br> haha
<br> yep
<br> so does IE
mercutio: the thing is, i do notice that people often have slow chrome issuues with <= 8gb ram
m0unds: IE has since before chrome was released
mercutio: and not everyone knows that ram is cheap and you can juust get another 16gb.
<br> and some desktop boards only have two slots.
mnathani: are you guys browsing a lot of video based sites?
mercutio: <u>mnathani</u>: evrey site has videos now
<br> they juust pause them sometimes
m0unds: nah
mercutio: like news sites all have videos
<br> facebook has videos
<br> etc
m0unds: i use ghostery to suppress stuff on news sites
<br> and suppress things like discus (don't care about comments) and livefyre
mercutio: the local news site here has these auto play in 5 second videos
<br> you have to click don't play
<br> it's bloody annoying
m0unds: ghostery typically just blocks those players from loading
mercutio: because it doesn't rmeember don't play for future videos
m0unds: shows a placeholder that lets you load it if you want it
mercutio: ahh
<br> the thing is every pluugin slows chrome down too :/
m0unds: i configure it to block everything and whitelist stuff i know i want like spotify's embeddable player, or soundcloud
<br> well, it's sort of a tradeoff
<br> i'd rather not be bothered w/idiots' comments on every article or autoplay videos everywhere
<br> and only see that stuff when i want to
<br> and the trade off is that it's another plugin but it also loads less shit on every site
mercutio: heh
m0unds: https://www.ghostery.com/en/ i like it quite a lot
mercutio: fwiw i restarted my browser after seeing such high memory use
m0unds: have you tried opera since they rebased on chromium?
mercutio: yeah it was terrible
<br> it may be better now
m0unds: i used to use opera a lot back when they were working on kraken and presto
<br> i didn't like that i couldn't tell it to use a custom search engine
mercutio: hmm wehre's update
m0unds: it just wanted me to use google, bing, ask or yahoo
mercutio: i can hardly read the version
<br> and it won't scale it
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
mercutio: 1.0.94.2
<br> first snapshot feb
<br> ok
<br> i need a newer version
m0unds: `i think i had it on my macbook but reinstalled fresh w/mavericks because of an issue with upgrading causing stuttering
<br> (that's the machine i'm on now)
mercutio: they're up to tp3
<br> oh and about:version text got bigger but you still can't scale it :)
<br> ok it's ugly and slow
m0unds: lol
mercutio: i liked how opera was fast
<br> now it seems to do this weird thing with red to blue
<br> like you're not loading a page and it's read and it's loaded and it's boue?
<br> blue?
<br> and it seems pretty intrusive
grody: not sure about these new theme
<br> i loved opera
<br> was first proper tabbed browser long before others picked up on that
<br> they switched the engine from their own to webkit/mozilla one iirc
<br> then it it went crap
mercutio: yeah
<br> their engine seeme dfine
grody: i do still have an older ASA opera i use for general browsing... nice and fast
<br> it's mobile browsers atm im uffing about.. dolphin is by far the fastest, but it does weird things on android.. but tampermonkey support makes me like it more
<br> all the others have this major hang loading/rendering certain pages, even on high end devices which reminds me of myspace/gif laden blog days
m0unds: yea, the old engine was presto and kraken for jscript iirc
<br> was faster than anything at the time they introduced it
<br> i think it was just too much work to keep at it
<br> webkit is "good enough"
grody: and little return too
m0unds: yep
<br> also no plugins or anything
<br> i imagine that was a bear for them; hard to get folks to use a browser when you have no extensions
grody: opera had a torrent client built in too.. was good enough for most things.. java did work if you poked and flash worked..
m0unds: i remember when they rolled out initial support for stuff before they switched to webkit, it was a mess
<br> lastpass barely work
<br> mail client too
grody: at the time that was more than enough
m0unds: yeah, i liked it a lot
<br> used it for years
<br> loved being able to make custom keyboard shortcuts
grody: no memory savaging (compared to most)
<br> leave it open for days and still be responsive
m0unds: yea, smooth scrolling almost as good as IE too
grody: see, it's all these fracking script kiddies that have forced the hand of severe security measures that are breaking things
mercutio: scrolling is a huge peeve of mine these days
<br> it used to really bug me with onboard video on cheap pc's years back.
<br> being choppy and slow
<br> but hardware acceleration fixed most of that
<br> and now some things are still slow :/
grody: this laptop is weird... i sent that to another channel and it landed up partly here and in another terminal :/
<br> not sure what is going on with web browsers atm
mercutio: i think the general problem with scrolling on web pages is thaet it's synced to page loading
<br> so if it hasn't got the page content figured out lower down the page it can't scroll at a consistent smooth rate down the page
<br> and i'd rather it focused on the scrolling before the content, and gave a smoother experience.
grody: have you ever used Vine?
mercutio: don't think so
<br> what's that
grody: that is epic smooth and the video content seems to load instantly
mercutio: did you ever use dos?
grody: https://vine.co/
mercutio: people figured out how to do smooth scrolling on dos
grody: sadly
mercutio: with tapping the harwdare
<br> there were these cool "text viewers" etc
<br> afaik they just hacked the character set
<br> they could do it in text mode.
grody: i used to be bugged with slow scrolling.. i still see it on linux/bsd sometimes on slow outputs
m0unds: yea
<br> safari and whatever current version of IE is on win8 have the nicest scrolling i've seen
grody: if i 'ls -R /' on this terminal, it outputs at what seems stupid fast... but if i drop to native console (alt+fn1) it has a hanging to the scroll
m0unds: google is supposedly looking to replicate the same method IE uses in chrome at some point
grody: i do quite like IE on this TP/IP
m0unds: have you tried out the dev tools in it?
<br> profiling and whatnot?
grody: never used to be a fan of it, but for quite browsing and hitting up random links it copes well
m0unds: probably uses the same key - f12 to launch it
grody: nope.. curious
m0unds: not sure if it's implemented in edge yet
grody: oh crap wth at that start menu
<br> its like they are taking "subtle" ideas from Unity
m0unds: my new idiot neighbors got a car alarm installed and they let it go off 30-60 seconds every time they try to get in their car
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
m0unds: every day, 4-5 times a day
<br> it's annoying as shit
<br> haha
grody: be funny if someone nicked it and it never went off at all
m0unds: yeah
<br> or if someone snagged the car and no one noticed because they let the alarm go of all the time
<br> haha
<br> just driving down the road w/the alarm going off like GTA
grody: hahahaha
mercutio: i still want my terminal to not flicker when scrolling
<br> actually linux has vsync issues in general.
m0unds: haha, i'd argue more than just vsync issues
mercutio: heh
<br> i was looking at urxvt code a while back
grody: on some terminals i've seen the scrolling cause tearing in the window
mercutio: this new async X stuff, i didn't find much documentation for it
m0unds: i finally gave up my arch install - my experiment was installing it and updating it when i used it, and if it ever broke to the point that i'd have to do something out of the ordinary to fix it, i'd kill it
mercutio: it's not chronically bad, it's just niggly bad.
<br> <u>m0unds</u>: what happened?
m0unds: (i'd check update notes on their mailing list or board to see if i had to do anything special, and i would do it if that was the case, otherwise i'd just blindly take updates)
<br> it failed to boot after the last update round i did a month ago
<br> lasted 18 mos before i hosed it to needing to actually work to get anything running
mercutio: weird.
<br> i've been running it over that time and i've been fine.
m0unds: yea, didn't care enough to figure it out, that was the experiment
<br> only occasionally used it (like, maybe once a month if that)
grody: i had that with arch before.. they change quite a few things and boom
m0unds: i used to do it with fedora, but fedora routinely broke so it wasn't fun
<br> arch was fun because i actually like it
<br> and i'm not a huge fan of linux desktops
<br> by any stretch
grody: im very careful about what im doing with this one atm.. until i get my arp back up properly its a small effort hanging on a hinge
m0unds: but it worked and as long as i always checked their stuff for special cases, it was fine
grody: ahh you used it as a desktop.. im running this headless
m0unds: i ran arch on a server for over a year for personal stuff
mercutio: my desktop doesn't look much different to how it looked 15 years ago
m0unds: it was great, didn't have any issues whatsoever (so long as i remembered to check before updating..haha)
grody: this is meant to be my personal file/media server for the home network, but when i fubar the vps up, i had to make a fast and rapid switch
m0unds: the provider i had the VM on were dicks about an issue i found w/their image, mainly that they didn't take the image before signing the keys for updates
<br> so you'd get errors and shit when you tried to run pacman
mercutio: well mayhbe 14.
m0unds: also building enough entropy on xen to generate keys sucked, but that was the case w/netbsd on xen too
mercutio: <u>m0unds</u>: what do you mean?
m0unds: pacman-init was run before you installed
mercutio: didn't take the image before signing the keys?
m0unds: so you'd get errors w/stuff not lining up
<br> so you'd have to nuke it and start over and run pacman-key and whatnot
<br> or whatever the command is
mercutio: is there something special you have to do?
<br> hmm
m0unds: on a fresh install, there's a command to pull down the keys and verify sigs
<br> before allowing install of updates
<br> they did that part of it, but you got your own set of keys w/the vm
<br> so the signing key was different than what was used to sign the stuff on the img
mercutio: oh
m0unds: so it would freak out that there was an inconsistency
<br> because your vm's key was different than the signing key
mercutio: i hate most distribuuution templates with vm's.
m0unds: but linode (i'll say it) were not very nice when i pointed it out
<br> and blamed me for it
<br> but quitely fixed it on the next go-around
mercutio: the popuular free ones around install sendmail on ubuntu :/
m0unds: s/quitely/quietly
BryceBot: <m0unds> but quietly fixed it on the next go-around
mercutio: i'm doing an arch template for arp
<br> there are a couple of issues
m0unds: cool
mercutio: i really should get back to it.
grody: i hate that, i want the ability to manually install from an unfettled iso
mercutio: it's just ipv6 and setting the passwords properly.
m0unds: yeah, that's why i'm back with arp. just wanted to burn my $100someodd in credit w/linode
grody: hehe
mercutio: i haven't done ipv6 with arp yet, it shouldn't be too complicated.
<br> err ipv6 with arch
m0unds: i can't get used to ip addr stuff
<br> i'm so used to ifconfig
grody: im just utilizing the standard /64 atm.. no need for more on mine
m0unds: haha
mercutio: i like the new ip stuff
m0unds: i used my old arp vm to provide ipv6 via tunnel before comcast rolled out native stuff
grody: i do want to expand this though and put a pfsense vm in front of the fbsd one
mercutio: but i hate ip's documentation
<br> and some things are confusing
grody: yea ip is weird
m0unds: so i had the /48 and split it off into a few chunks for my home network
<br> but now that i have native i don't need the extra addresses so i just roll w/the /64
mercutio: yeah it's cool that arp do /64
m0unds: yeah, and not w/dhcp
mercutio: solusvm gives out individual ip's.
m0unds: or weird kludgy shit
<br> or that
<br> god
grody: hehe
m0unds: solus is awful
<br> hahaha
mercutio: <u>m0unds</u>: it's the standard
<br> but yes it's awful.
m0unds: i had a vm get wiped w/a provider who got hit w/the solus security "zero day" bug a couple years ago
mercutio: once uupon a time i thought it'd be a cool idea to try doing something like solusvm that didn't suck
<br> but then i woke up and realised it'd just be a huge pita.
m0unds: someone gained access to host boxes and killed a bunch of vms
mercutio: and you'd have to deal with idiots that all want to run their own virtualisation providers :/
m0unds: i just said screw it and terminated my acct and deployed my backups to arp
mercutio: yeah the problem with arp is it's only in one location :(
<br> so if you want to get vm's in other locations you have to use someone else :(
<br> the control panel etc is all fine by me.
m0unds: i like LA, it's close network-wise to me (was great when i tunneled ipv6, added no appreciable amount of latency)
mercutio: i mean there's room for improvement, but it doesn't annoy me.
<br> i dunno i have fvm's for network testing partially
<br> so having in different locations is handy
m0unds: i do nothing fun w/this vm, it's just personal site stuff, irc and teamspeak
mnathani: anyone into minecraft?
m0unds: used to be
<br> ran a server for friends for a couple years
mercutio: i used to play openttd :/
<br> and ran a server.
mnathani: did you ever pay to play?
m0unds: how do you mean?
mercutio: i never got the point of minecraft.
m0unds: building stuff
<br> we built a bacon machine under someone's house
<br> lava + pig spawner + glass enclosure
<br> it squeals every 10 seconds
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
m0unds: built a big rail system. you could hop in a minecart and ride it from house to house
<br> occasionally creepers would blow up a track section and you'd ride it into a pit and either drown or just fall out
staticsafe: heh
m0unds: <u>staticsafe</u>: how's the euro truck biz? ;)
<br> i keep hearing that's a fun sim
staticsafe: its going well, there is a new expansion coming out on the 7th, adds Scandinavian countries
m0unds: sweet
staticsafe: set up one of my BGP sessions, waiting on them to export my prefixes as well
<br> http://pastie.org/private/sofrlgwv62tcfcxftv2haa
<br> and give me an actual feed lol
mnathani: is your ASN 16 or 32 bit?
staticsafe: 32
m0unds: cool
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m0unds: eurotruck looks fun, but i don't think i need another sim for now
<br> watched a couple videos of it, then remembered i have 4 flight sims, two driving sims and a train sim on my pc right now
brycec: lol
<br> I very rarely reboot to Windows to play games, but ETS2 is one of my fav sims, great for kicking back and relaxying
m0unds: x-plane, fsx and dcs are probably most most regularly used sims though. i love me some planes.
<br> that's why i bought train simulator whatever it is, years ago
brycec: I play KSP and SE most often. I enjoy relaxing and goofing off.
m0unds: ksp is so fun
brycec: (Space Engineers is not unlike Minecraft in many respects, but in spaaaace)
m0unds: i need to try it again - some version of unity they rolled up to caused some annoying ticking in my headphones that annoyed me
brycec: (It's all just "playing with legs" to me)
m0unds: yeah, i like space engineers too
brycec: *legos
m0unds: some of the folks who post on the SE subreddit do crazy shit i would never have thought of
<br> one guy built a self-replicating ship
<br> wish i could remember what he titled it; i guess it crashed the server he was on
<br> http://imgur.com/a/ATORJ here's an example, but not the one i'm thinking of
<br> haha
brycec: Yeah I've tried to do similar but never quite successfully
RandalSchwartz: I'm not seeing /dev/gpt/swap0, but when I installed root-on-ZFS, it said to do that.
<br> gpart shows type freebsd-sqap
<br> freebsd-swap
<br> so why doesn't /dev/gpt/swap0 show up?
<br> ahh... gpart show -l ad0 says boot0, (null), root0
<br> I must've messed up on building
<br> can I change that after the fact?
<br> gpart modify -i 2 -l swap0 ad0 seems to have done it
<br> now for a quick reboot.
NiTeMaRe: <u>mercutio</u>: solus does v6 ranges now
<br> :)
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mercutio: nite; how long did that take them?
mnathani_: do they dole out single /128?
<br> I think virtuozzo does that
mercutio: nah usually like 8 /128s
mnathani_: does solus use kvm?
mercutio: it can i think
mnathani_: how far along are you with the arch template?
mercutio: i've been sick :(
<br> going to do ubuntu, debian, openbsd first.
<br> but it's nearly there, plus some checking
mnathani_: how do you deal with different disk sizes at the time of order?
<br> or do you make a template for each disk size
mercutio: for linux the file system gets resized.
<br> yeh it's a pita for bsd.