so apparently nginx is bigger than iis these days.
it's the most popuular server for top 10,000 web sites, but even overall it's second behind apache
litespeed :)
yeah litespeed is pnuy
2.2% litespeed, 13.2% iis, 23.9% nginx, 57.7% apache
for all sitges
i use litespeed for all of my production cpanel servers and love it
does it do htaccess
i'm not a fan of capnel
ahh it does
yheah i dunno why litespeed never took off
not being open source and costing money put me off
yea, that's probably a big reason
that and they license by cpu core (at least they used to)
eww
if i'm thinking of the right thing
and they had license levels for vps vs dedi
vs host
apache trafficserver seems to be ahead of othe people with http2 support.
cpanel is like that too m0unds
https://store.litespeedtech.com/store/cart.php?gid=1
nginx not supporting htaccess makes it complicated for shared hosting.
1 core, 2GB RAM limit, 500gb concurrent connections, $249
screw that
but hey, at least it still supports uml
:)
hangon is that one core for the webserver?
yes
so not php etc.
not sure how that would work
but license renewals are $50/yr after the first yr
Standard Edition: Free. Meets the needs of small websites. Automatically reads and uses Apache configurations, but has a limit of 150 concurrent connections and up to 5 Apache vhost.s
OpenLiteSpeed: Open source and free. Powerful enough for any website, but does not automatically read and use Apache configurations. Easy to configure (understands Apache mod_rewrite syntax), but requires that you configure it on your own.
that doesn't seem so bad.
i reckon large sites should use nginx
or small sites.
i just use nginx because i don't need htaccess
and shared hosting should use apache
yeh actually it's just shared hosting that really wants htaccess
do you like nginx m0unds ?
yup
been using it for 4-5 yrs
ahh ok
did you ever try lighttpd?
i like the cfg syntax, reminds me of junos
used lighttpd years ago
oh yip
what about boa and thttpd?
there is openlitespeed too
but it doesn't support as much and there is a closed source free version but ditto
used thttpd for handling cgi before, but haven't used it as a web server
NiTeMaRe: why did you switch?
there used to be all these benchmarks going around about static performance of web servers
i used to feed smokeping through thttpd w/nginx on the front end
when it's php that's usually the slowest part.
yeah
mercutio: i was having issues with a couple large sites and load with apache and nginx didn't have that great of integration + the htaccess thing
NiTeMaRe: and it fixed it up?
yes by far
i've heard/read that lightspeed is much faster than apache 2.x
2.2*
it is way faster
.x
i don't remember seeing it compared to 2.3 though
m0unds: yeh i remember it was fsater than apache 1.3
and apache 2 was slower than apache 1.3 wasn't it?
err, 2.4
rather
has apache sped up?
it still takes lots of memory
yea, new apache has a threaded model like nginx
sort of
using php cgi on apache reduces memor yusage a lot
still not as fast though
but then you have the overhead of calling php
so you can use thinkgs like php-fpm
yea
it gets complicated quick though
it handles http-based ddos well too
http://www.litespeedtech.com/products/litespeed-web-server/editions
there is a comparison chart for each of the versions
ahh so you need enterprise for your cpanel
lsws standard is free along with (obviously) openls
yes
http://www.litespeedtech.com/products/anti-ddos-proxy-service
interesting
ya i've considered trying that but i'm a cloudflare partner anyways
railgun works pretty nicely
how much does that cost NiTeMaRe ?
yuck, whcms
or whatever it is
haha
which, cloudflare?
yeh paterner
err partner
to become a partner is free as long as you have a legit hosting site etc
ahh ok
you use cpanel at all for customers?
then you can add people to it easily/quickly?
nah i know someone else who uses cpanel though
well they have a cpanel module and interworx module
it is all point n click
ahh so it's all automatic?
yup
even with dns control etc?
does it just hook into cloudflare's API or something?
cloudflare's dns config is ick
my main complaint about cloudflare is you can't just cname to their server
yup although if you are using it for ddos you are better off changing nameservers over to cloudflare but it is reallyg good just for optimization
you have to use them for your whole domain, and their dns is icky to work with
ya thats where you have to change nameservers over
but if you don't have ddos issues and you just want to use them for CDN purposes they work great
i'd rather be able to do static.domain.name
i should try out litespeeds service one day for sure
i couldn't find a way to make it work with static.domain.name at all.
i suuppose you could do another domain for static content.
it just seems silly to have to do another domain rather than sub doamin
well for partners it forwards example.com > www.example.com > cname to cf
for partners it does cname to cf?
what's the cname look like?
so thats how it does everything automatic for partners but if you are getting ddosed, ip can be found via dns example.com
let me pull a example site
sec
they seem to have improved it slightly
now you can import bind type zone things
idk if you got my pm or not but it is a htaccess forward from example.com to www.example.com then a cname from www.example.com to www.example.com.cdn.cloudflare.com
cloudflare.net even
ahh example.com.cdn.cloudflare.net
ya
so can a normal user just cname there
i suppsoe they can
more then likely
weallsee.net.cdn.cloudflare.net has address 104.28.6.126
weallsee.net has address 104.28.6.126
yip
sweet
thanks :)
although doing it that way doesn't give ipv6 results
dunno why
probably doesn't matter
there is a way to toggle it in there panel
www.discuss.ninja now shows it
ahh
https isn't working either :)
they give free ssl certs for https
i know
it's worked before
i can't get this damn https to go
now cloudflare isn't loading :(
 curl -v https://www.cloudflare.com/a/login/
that just hangs
this one loads for me: https://www.cloudflare.com/
yeah that loaded
The following error occurred while parsing the API response: Unexpected token <
i got into login finally
and now it's showing crap like that and generally not working fast/well/properly.
ahh looks like can't do cname with https
because it uuses assigning the nameservers to cloudflare as verification