[02:17] *** SpaceDum1 is now known as SpaceDump [12:47] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:43] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [14:40] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC () [14:57] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [15:26] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC () [15:30] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [15:51] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC () [15:54] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [17:40] so apparently nginx is bigger than iis these days. [17:41] it's the most popuular server for top 10,000 web sites, but even overall it's second behind apache [17:41] litespeed :) [17:42] yeah litespeed is pnuy [17:42] 2.2% litespeed, 13.2% iis, 23.9% nginx, 57.7% apache [17:42] for all sitges [17:49] i use litespeed for all of my production cpanel servers and love it [18:10] does it do htaccess [18:10] i'm not a fan of capnel [18:10] ahh it does [18:10] yheah i dunno why litespeed never took off [18:10] not being open source and costing money put me off [18:11] yea, that's probably a big reason [18:11] that and they license by cpu core (at least they used to) [18:11] eww [18:11] if i'm thinking of the right thing [18:11] and they had license levels for vps vs dedi [18:11] vs host [18:11] apache trafficserver seems to be ahead of othe people with http2 support. [18:12] cpanel is like that too m0unds [18:12] https://store.litespeedtech.com/store/cart.php?gid=1 [18:12] nginx not supporting htaccess makes it complicated for shared hosting. [18:12] 1 core, 2GB RAM limit, 500gb concurrent connections, $249 [18:12] screw that [18:13] but hey, at least it still supports uml [18:13] :) [18:13] hangon is that one core for the webserver? [18:13] yes [18:13] so not php etc. [18:14] not sure how that would work [18:14] but license renewals are $50/yr after the first yr [18:14] Standard Edition: Free. Meets the needs of small websites. Automatically reads and uses Apache configurations, but has a limit of 150 concurrent connections and up to 5 Apache vhost.s [18:14] OpenLiteSpeed: Open source and free. Powerful enough for any website, but does not automatically read and use Apache configurations. Easy to configure (understands Apache mod_rewrite syntax), but requires that you configure it on your own. [18:15] that doesn't seem so bad. [18:15] i reckon large sites should use nginx [18:15] or small sites. [18:15] i just use nginx because i don't need htaccess [18:15] and shared hosting should use apache [18:16] yeh actually it's just shared hosting that really wants htaccess [18:16] do you like nginx m0unds ? [18:16] yup [18:16] been using it for 4-5 yrs [18:16] ahh ok [18:16] did you ever try lighttpd? [18:16] i like the cfg syntax, reminds me of junos [18:16] used lighttpd years ago [18:16] oh yip [18:17] what about boa and thttpd? [18:17] there is openlitespeed too [18:17] but it doesn't support as much and there is a closed source free version but ditto [18:17] used thttpd for handling cgi before, but haven't used it as a web server [18:17] NiTeMaRe: why did you switch? [18:18] there used to be all these benchmarks going around about static performance of web servers [18:18] i used to feed smokeping through thttpd w/nginx on the front end [18:18] when it's php that's usually the slowest part. [18:18] yeah [18:18] mercutio: i was having issues with a couple large sites and load with apache and nginx didn't have that great of integration + the htaccess thing [18:18] NiTeMaRe: and it fixed it up? [18:18] yes by far [18:18] i've heard/read that lightspeed is much faster than apache 2.x [18:18] 2.2* [18:18] it is way faster [18:18] .x [18:19] i don't remember seeing it compared to 2.3 though [18:19] m0unds: yeh i remember it was fsater than apache 1.3 [18:19] and apache 2 was slower than apache 1.3 wasn't it? [18:19] err, 2.4 [18:19] rather [18:19] has apache sped up? [18:19] it still takes lots of memory [18:19] yea, new apache has a threaded model like nginx [18:19] sort of [18:19] using php cgi on apache reduces memor yusage a lot [18:19] still not as fast though [18:19] but then you have the overhead of calling php [18:19] so you can use thinkgs like php-fpm [18:19] yea [18:20] it gets complicated quick though [18:20] it handles http-based ddos well too [18:20] http://www.litespeedtech.com/products/litespeed-web-server/editions [18:20] there is a comparison chart for each of the versions [18:21] ahh so you need enterprise for your cpanel [18:21] lsws standard is free along with (obviously) openls [18:21] yes [18:23] http://www.litespeedtech.com/products/anti-ddos-proxy-service [18:23] interesting [18:24] ya i've considered trying that but i'm a cloudflare partner anyways [18:24] railgun works pretty nicely [18:24] how much does that cost NiTeMaRe ? [18:24] yuck, whcms [18:24] or whatever it is [18:24] haha [18:24] which, cloudflare? [18:25] yeh paterner [18:25] err partner [18:25] to become a partner is free as long as you have a legit hosting site etc [18:25] ahh ok [18:25] you use cpanel at all for customers? [18:25] then you can add people to it easily/quickly? [18:25] nah i know someone else who uses cpanel though [18:25] well they have a cpanel module and interworx module [18:26] it is all point n click [18:26] ahh so it's all automatic? [18:26] yup [18:26] even with dns control etc? [18:26] does it just hook into cloudflare's API or something? [18:26] cloudflare's dns config is ick [18:26] my main complaint about cloudflare is you can't just cname to their server [18:26] yup although if you are using it for ddos you are better off changing nameservers over to cloudflare but it is reallyg good just for optimization [18:27] you have to use them for your whole domain, and their dns is icky to work with [18:27] ya thats where you have to change nameservers over [18:27] but if you don't have ddos issues and you just want to use them for CDN purposes they work great [18:27] i'd rather be able to do static.domain.name [18:28] i should try out litespeeds service one day for sure [18:28] i couldn't find a way to make it work with static.domain.name at all. [18:28] i suuppose you could do another domain for static content. [18:28] it just seems silly to have to do another domain rather than sub doamin [18:28] well for partners it forwards example.com > www.example.com > cname to cf [18:29] for partners it does cname to cf? [18:29] what's the cname look like? [18:29] so thats how it does everything automatic for partners but if you are getting ddosed, ip can be found via dns example.com [18:29] let me pull a example site [18:29] sec [18:31] they seem to have improved it slightly [18:32] now you can import bind type zone things [18:40] idk if you got my pm or not but it is a htaccess forward from example.com to www.example.com then a cname from www.example.com to www.example.com.cdn.cloudflare.com [18:40] cloudflare.net even [18:40] ahh example.com.cdn.cloudflare.net [18:40] ya [18:40] so can a normal user just cname there [18:41] i suppsoe they can [18:41] more then likely [18:41] weallsee.net.cdn.cloudflare.net has address 104.28.6.126 [18:41] weallsee.net has address 104.28.6.126 [18:41] yip [18:41] sweet [18:41] thanks :) [18:41] although doing it that way doesn't give ipv6 results [18:42] dunno why [18:42] probably doesn't matter [18:47] there is a way to toggle it in there panel [18:48] www.discuss.ninja now shows it [18:53] ahh [18:53] https isn't working either :) [18:54] they give free ssl certs for https [18:55] i know [18:55] it's worked before [19:40] i can't get this damn https to go [19:45] now cloudflare isn't loading :( [19:46] curl -v https://www.cloudflare.com/a/login/ [19:46] that just hangs [19:47] this one loads for me: https://www.cloudflare.com/ [19:51] yeah that loaded [19:51] The following error occurred while parsing the API response: Unexpected token < [19:51] i got into login finally [19:51] and now it's showing crap like that and generally not working fast/well/properly. [20:02] ahh looks like can't do cname with https [20:03] because it uuses assigning the nameservers to cloudflare as verification