[00:37] *** himuraken_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:54] *** KDE_Perry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [00:55] *** KDE_Perry has joined #arpnetworks [01:01] *** himuraken has joined #arpnetworks [12:29] *** forgotten has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:55] @weather -v yyz [12:55] Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 50°F (10°C), Humidity: 62%, Wind: From the NNW at 20 MPH, Pressure: 29.92inHg (1013mb) and holding, Dewpoint: 37°F (3°C), Visibility: 15Mi (24km), UV index: 4, Sunrise 06:17, Sunset: 20:16, Lunar phase: First quarter [12:55] Monday: Partly Cloudy 50°F/42°F (10°C/6°C) | Tuesday: Clear 66°F/42°F (19°C/6°C) | Wednesday: Mostly Cloudy 68°F/45°F (20°C/7°C) | Thursday: Mostly Cloudy 63°F/43°F (17°C/6°C) [12:55] The average high for this date is 57°F (13°C), and the record of 71°F (21°C) was set in 2011. The average low is 38°F (3°C), and the record of 30°F (-1°C) was set in 1998 [12:56] *** forgotten has joined #arpnetworks [12:58] hello. i saw some irc logs about some customers having issues upgrading from openbsd 5.5 to 5.6 where server would get stuck on boot with " nvram: invalid checksum " error. Something about needing to migrate customers to a different host that has been upgraded? [12:58] up_the_irons: this sound familiar? Should i submit a ticket for that? My server is dead atm :(. [13:01] That sucks, forgotten [13:01] yeah man [13:01] it does [13:01] forgotten: how far into the upgrade are you? [13:01] i booted off the 5.6 ISO and just ran through upgrading the sets [13:02] (I upgraded a couple of VPS to 5.6 without issues) [13:02] tells you to reboot, and thats it. [13:02] So the ISO worked, just not on-disk [13:02] i still need to do the sysmerge, and packages upgrades etc [13:02] forgotten: have you tried a full power-off and then starting it back up? [13:02] yes, and i tried to boot -c and disable uhci [13:02] it goes a little further past nvram error, but still freezes. [13:03] forgotten: which host are you on? [13:03] http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2014-11-10,Mon [13:03] is the log i found talking about it. [13:03] kvr29 i believe [13:03] That's what she said!! [13:04] kvr{18,19,26} running 5.6/amd64 no issues [13:04] forgotten: what arch? [13:04] i386 [13:04] ew but why? [13:05] i only got 1 cpu core.. [13:05] (amd64 gets much more usage/testing by the devs. Plus I've heard hints of issues with i386 boots) [13:05] forgotten: so? you have 1 64bit core. [13:05] u think i could boot the amd64 iso and re-run the upgrade without issue? [13:05] Yep [13:05] 5.5 i386 -> amd64 5.6 [13:06] I've done that [13:06] ok i'll give that a try [13:06] gotta re-connect to my phone cause my stupid work blocks my vnc connections lol, brb. [13:10] *** forgotten has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:14] *** forgotten has joined #arpnetworks [13:14] same problem :( [13:18] Aw :( [13:18] I was so sure... [13:19] lol [13:19] after disableing uhci it gets to "scsibus4 at softwared0: 256 targets" [13:20] and just sits =/ [13:29] gonna try to go back to 5.5 i guess =/ [13:43] gl [13:49] ya i think im screwed [13:50] unbound [14:00] back to invalid checksum error. hopefully a migration is the answer. [14:05] *** forgotten has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [14:06] *** forgotten has joined #arpnetworks [14:21] i did a i386 to amd64 switch [14:24] mercutio did you run into this boot freeze? [14:24] nope [14:24] http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2014-11-10,Mon [14:24] i did it pre 5.6 [14:24] but openbsd 5.6 works fine on arp too [14:24] on all the hosts? [14:24] ahh mnathani had issues [14:25] Not with BSD though [14:26] hrmm ok [14:26] well shiz then [14:26] looks like it may be a long night [14:27] umm [14:27] maybe :) [14:27] you could justu creater another vm and copy your [14:27] oh hangon is 5.6 when old binaries stopped working? [14:27] one of the versions i had to change my shell, as i was using /usr/local/bin/zsh [14:28] i know unbound now becomes part of the system, and not a package. [14:28] That's what she said!! [14:28] also i accidentally upgraded in the first place, then figured i may as well [14:29] one versaion started segfaulting old binoaries [14:31] clearly i need coffee [14:44] mmm coffee [14:45] it did seem back then that old kvm hosts may be having issuues [14:46] openbsd 5.7 comes out in a few days [14:46] i'd just shift it back to i386 in the interim [14:56] i tried to go to 5.6 i386 first, with freeze on boot problem. tried amd64 same issue. [14:57] tried to go back to 5.5, system boots but takes me to single user mode barking about unbound stuff [14:57] will 5.7 iso's get put up right away? [15:06] probably on the soon side [15:06] i'm sure you can fix the 5.5 stuff [15:06] you may have to just delete the unbound binaries not in /usr/local [15:07] the /usr/sbin ones or wherever it is [15:10] maybe, im not super familiar with it. [15:10] gonna wait till i get home to dive into it, so i dont have to be tethered off my phone. [16:39] ubuntu vivid broke mariadb :( [16:39] nice quailty checking there [16:40] Boooo [16:46] and i still haven't figured out how to fix it [16:47] although i'm not the only one hitting it [16:47] looks like it's going to be a long night [16:47] ;) [16:51] forgotten: A long night of putting a ticket in to up_the_irons? [16:51] (At least that was the resolution back in November) [16:51] "going to need to migrate those guys or they downgrade" [16:51] brycec: that's already been in for some hours now. [16:51] i agree, that would be the best solution. [16:52] forgotten: recently I've been getting replies from up_the_irons around 5-6pm [16:52] i could install 5.6 fresh, and restore everything. [16:52] which is almost now (16.50) [16:52] ur PST time up there in idaho? [16:53] I'm in WA you insensitive clod! [16:53] (And ARP is in CA) [16:53] weren't you in idaho at some point? [16:53] lol [16:53] forgotten: I live 5 minutes from Idaho. I find myself in Idaho a few times/month :p [16:54] brycec: you jusut don't want to be from there? :) [16:54] i knew i wasn't totally crazy [16:54] This whole "being on the border" thing seems to throw a lot of people off [16:54] I don't really understand why [16:55] is it easy to cross? [16:55] * mercutio has never lived in a country with borders [16:55] mercutio: There are certain stigmas associated with the state of Idaho... I try not to get lumped with them. [16:55] or is it more just like a toll gate? [16:55] mercutio: there's nothing to it. I wouldn't even call it a "border"... there's just a sign by the road, "Welcome to Idaho" [16:55] ahh ok [16:55] (as with most states) [16:55] so it's justu like a city [16:55] yep, or crossing into another county [16:56] it's just canada that is difficuult? [16:56] /parish [16:56] /whatever [16:56] mercutio: Changing *countries* is a different story [16:56] now traffic is all fucked =/ [16:56] (But within the country, there's basically nothing to it) [16:56] cool. [16:57] but there are some legal differences between states etc? [16:57] like some states don't like radar detectors etc. [16:57] mercutio: Yes. (Which is no different than legal differences between cities, for example) [16:58] oh they are generally legal there [16:58] I'm not talking about radar detectors specifically :P [16:58] well i was thinking about cars being illegal [16:58] when going between :) [16:58] Miraculously, all states have ended up with about 70-80% overlapping laws, so you're not too likely run afoul. [16:58] Window tint is one that varies between states [16:58] *The level of tint [16:59] except california? [16:59] ahh [16:59] american shows seem to like to haev cars with really tinted windwos [16:59] i think its' rujde :) [16:59] To my knowledge, tint is perfectly legal in all 50 states. [16:59] tint is common here [16:59] the sun is really intense [17:00] you can tell when someone drives a lot because one side of them will be sunburnt [17:08] lol [17:09] (or at least just noticeably more tan) [17:09] Heck I got that just from my 20-30 minute commute in Arizona. [17:12] guess i'll face the music and head home [17:12] *** forgotten has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [17:15] yeah people tend to burn here easier [17:15] less ozone [17:15] i imagine arizona is extremely hot [17:18] It tends to be, yes [17:18] @weather PHX [17:18] Phoenix Sky Harbor International, AZ: Partly Cloudy ☁ 85°F (29°C), Humidity: 17%, Wind: From the Variable at 4 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.42770004,-112.00379944 or re-request this with: @weather -v PHX [17:18] Oh wow, cool evening [17:18] and dry it seems [17:18] Then again, it is still spring [17:18] yeah screw that [17:18] it's not even that hot here, just thin ozone [17:18] Summers see 40C by 10am [17:19] ouch [17:19] how do you deal [17:19] @wiki Air Conditioning [17:19] Air conditioning :: Air conditioning (often referred to as A/C, AC or aircon) is the process of altering the properties of air (primarily temperature and humidity) to more comfortable conditions, typically with the aim of distributing the conditioned air to an occupied space to improve thermal comfort and indoor air quality. Overview In common use, an air conditioner is a device... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air%20conditioning [17:19] (Or if you're smart, you move away...) [17:19] (or both) [17:35] yeah phx. [17:35] I remember one day driving along and seeing those old-time temperature/time boards outside a bank [17:35] at 1:02pm it was 102 degrees [17:36] so the colon just kept blinking in and out [17:36] I muttered "can't wait for 2:12 pm... water will be boiling" [17:37] 102f is 39c yes [17:37] taht seems hot [17:42] it was [17:42] every year, the local tv station actually fries eggs on the sidewalk [17:43] and I recall one year it was so hot that the FAA charts don't go high enough, and all the planes were grounded for a few hours [17:43] I think that's at 105 [17:44] do people get up early [17:44] and go to bed lat [17:44] That's what she said!! [17:44] and just sleep in the middle of the day? [17:44] No... everything is indoors [17:44] massive amounts of A/C [17:45] people play golf at night though [17:45] most of the courses are lit [17:45] it's down to a nice 80 by then :) [17:59] *** forgotten has joined #arpnetworks [20:07] geez. dealing with a vendor who does not accept tls, only sslv2 and v3 [20:07] apparently, they didn't get the memo. [20:10] lololol [20:10] I'm happy to say our product only supports tls 1.1 and 1.2 [20:11] (And optionally TLS 1.0 for those rare cases) [20:22] ... https://www.facebook.com/merlyn/posts/10152907454344372 [20:24] forgotten: yup that error sounds familiar [20:24] help me out broseph! [20:24] :D [20:25] and sorry for the slowness on tickets today, there was a fire by my house and we had to prepare to evacuate (fortunately, fire crews contained it, but cops were telling us to get prepared) [20:25] oh damn!!! [20:26] glad ur house didn't get burned up! [20:26] Nature needs its own Halon system [20:26] yup same here! :D [20:26] brb [20:48] up_the_irons: wow [20:52] the new mayor of culver city is celebrating at the bar I'm at! [20:53] it sounuds like it's a small city [20:53] on wikipedia [20:54] so does that mean you get to actually talk to the mayor? [20:54] Not sure... they pointed the mayor out, but it was past a crowd, so I don't know who. [20:55] if you approached the crowd it may become more obvious [20:55] probably [20:55] *** forgotten has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [20:56] new mayor? it seems the mayor has been constant? [20:57] http://www.culvercityobserver.com/story/2014/05/01/news/meghan-sahli-wells-sworn-in-as-culver-citys-mayor/3788.html [20:57] it looks like the mayor is that person [20:57] no that's last year [20:57] poor Baltimore [20:57] glad i made the CA jump [20:58] it says 1st term 4/23/12 to 4/25/16 [20:58] oh.... so maybe this is just a party [20:58] in that case, it's that woman that I just saw getting a picture with people here [20:58] i dunno who the mayor is here [20:59] so maybe this is a 4th year celebration party [20:59] oh it's the guy that got in the news having some affair [21:00] with 34% voter turnout [21:00] people don't seemt o care who the mayor is here [21:00] yeah maybe they celebrate every year [21:38] *** dj_goku_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:40] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [22:00] up_the_irons: lucky you didnt have to evacuate [22:00] did you have a bunch of computer gear at home? 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