#arpnetworks 2015-04-27,Mon

forgotten

yeah man
it does

brycec

forgotten: how far into the upgrade are you?

forgotten

i booted off the 5.6 ISO and just ran through upgrading the sets

brycec

(I upgraded a couple of VPS to 5.6 without issues)

forgotten

tells you to reboot, and thats it.

brycec

So the ISO worked, just not on-disk

forgotten

i still need to do the sysmerge, and packages upgrades etc

brycec

forgotten: have you tried a full power-off and then starting it back up?

forgotten

yes, and i tried to boot -c and disable uhci
it goes a little further past nvram error, but still freezes.

brycec

forgotten: which host are you on?

[13:03]

forgotten

http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2014-11-10,Mon
is the log i found talking about it.
kvr29 i believe

[13:03]

BryceBot

That's what she said!!

[13:03]

brycec

kvr{18,19,26} running 5.6/amd64 no issues
forgotten: what arch?

[13:04]

forgotten

i386

[13:04]

brycec

ew but why?

[13:04]

forgotten

i only got 1 cpu core..

brycec

(amd64 gets much more usage/testing by the devs. Plus I've heard hints of issues with i386 boots)
forgotten: so? you have 1 64bit core.

forgotten

u think i could boot the amd64 iso and re-run the upgrade without issue?

brycec

Yep

forgotten

5.5 i386 -> amd64 5.6

brycec

I've done that

[13:06]

forgotten

ok i'll give that a try
gotta re-connect to my phone cause my stupid work blocks my vnc connections lol, brb.

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forgotten

same problem :(

[13:14]

brycec

Aw :(
I was so sure...

[13:18]

forgotten

lol
after disableing uhci it gets to "scsibus4 at softwared0: 256 targets"
and just sits =/

[13:19]

gonna try to go back to 5.5 i guess =/

[13:29]

brycec

[13:43]

forgotten

ya i think im screwed
unbound

[13:49]

back to invalid checksum error. hopefully a migration is the answer.

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mercutio

i did a i386 to amd64 switch

[14:21]

forgotten

mercutio did you run into this boot freeze?

mercutio

nope

http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2014-11-10,Mon

forgotten

mercutio

i did it pre 5.6
but openbsd 5.6 works fine on arp too

forgotten

on all the hosts?

mercutio

ahh mnathani had issues

mnathani

Not with BSD though

[14:25]

forgotten

hrmm ok
well shiz then
looks like it may be a long night

[14:26]

mercutio

umm
maybe :)
you could justu creater another vm and copy your
oh hangon is 5.6 when old binaries stopped working?
one of the versions i had to change my shell, as i was using /usr/local/bin/zsh

[14:27]

forgotten

i know unbound now becomes part of the system, and not a package.

[14:28]

BryceBot

That's what she said!!

[14:28]

mercutio

also i accidentally upgraded in the first place, then figured i may as well
one versaion started segfaulting old binoaries
clearly i need coffee

[14:28]

forgotten

mmm coffee

[14:44]

mercutio

it did seem back then that old kvm hosts may be having issuues
openbsd 5.7 comes out in a few days
i'd just shift it back to i386 in the interim

[14:45]

forgotten

i tried to go to 5.6 i386 first, with freeze on boot problem. tried amd64 same issue.
tried to go back to 5.5, system boots but takes me to single user mode barking about unbound stuff
will 5.7 iso's get put up right away?

[14:56]

mercutio

probably on the soon side
i'm sure you can fix the 5.5 stuff
you may have to just delete the unbound binaries not in /usr/local
the /usr/sbin ones or wherever it is

[15:06]

forgotten

maybe, im not super familiar with it.
gonna wait till i get home to dive into it, so i dont have to be tethered off my phone.

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mercutio

ubuntu vivid broke mariadb :(
nice quailty checking there

[16:39]

brycec

Boooo

[16:40]

mercutio

and i still haven't figured out how to fix it
although i'm not the only one hitting it

[16:46]

forgotten

looks like it's going to be a long night
;)

[16:47]

brycec

forgotten: A long night of putting a ticket in to up_the_irons?
(At least that was the resolution back in November)
"going to need to migrate those guys or they downgrade"

[16:51]

forgotten

brycec: that's already been in for some hours now.
i agree, that would be the best solution.

[16:51]

brycec

forgotten: recently I've been getting replies from up_the_irons around 5-6pm

forgotten

i could install 5.6 fresh, and restore everything.

brycec

which is almost now (16.50)

forgotten

ur PST time up there in idaho?

brycec

I'm in WA you insensitive clod!
(And ARP is in CA)

[16:53]

forgotten

weren't you in idaho at some point?
lol

[16:53]

brycec

forgotten: I live 5 minutes from Idaho. I find myself in Idaho a few times/month :p

[16:53]

mercutio

brycec: you jusut don't want to be from there? :)

[16:54]

forgotten

i knew i wasn't totally crazy

[16:54]

brycec

This whole "being on the border" thing seems to throw a lot of people off
I don't really understand why

[16:54]

mercutio

is it easy to cross?
mercutio has never lived in a country with borders

brycec

mercutio: There are certain stigmas associated with the state of Idaho... I try not to get lumped with them.

mercutio

or is it more just like a toll gate?

brycec

mercutio: there's nothing to it. I wouldn't even call it a "border"... there's just a sign by the road, "Welcome to Idaho"

mercutio

ahh ok

brycec

(as with most states)

mercutio

so it's justu like a city

brycec

yep, or crossing into another county

mercutio

it's just canada that is difficuult?

brycec

/parish
/whatever
mercutio: Changing *countries* is a different story

forgotten

now traffic is all fucked =/

brycec

(But within the country, there's basically nothing to it)

mercutio

cool.
but there are some legal differences between states etc?
like some states don't like radar detectors etc.

brycec

mercutio: Yes. (Which is no different than legal differences between cities, for example)

[16:57]

mercutio

oh they are generally legal there

brycec

I'm not talking about radar detectors specifically :P

mercutio

well i was thinking about cars being illegal
when going between :)

brycec

Miraculously, all states have ended up with about 70-80% overlapping laws, so you're not too likely run afoul.
Window tint is one that varies between states
*The level of tint

mercutio

except california?
ahh
american shows seem to like to haev cars with really tinted windwos
i think its' rujde :)

[16:59]

brycec

To my knowledge, tint is perfectly legal in all 50 states.

[16:59]

mercutio

tint is common here
the sun is really intense
you can tell when someone drives a lot because one side of them will be sunburnt

[16:59]

forgotten

lol

[17:08]

brycec

(or at least just noticeably more tan)
Heck I got that just from my 20-30 minute commute in Arizona.

[17:09]

forgotten

guess i'll face the music and head home

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mercutio

yeah people tend to burn here easier
less ozone
i imagine arizona is extremely hot

[17:15]

brycec

It tends to be, yes
@weather PHX

BryceBot

Phoenix Sky Harbor International, AZ: Partly Cloudy ☁ 85°F (29°C), Humidity: 17%, Wind: From the Variable at 4 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.42770004,-112.00379944 or re-request this with: @weather -v PHX

brycec

Oh wow, cool evening

mercutio

and dry it seems

brycec

Then again, it is still spring

mercutio

yeah screw that
it's not even that hot here, just thin ozone

brycec

Summers see 40C by 10am

mercutio

ouch
how do you deal

brycec

@wiki Air Conditioning

BryceBot

Air conditioning :: Air conditioning (often referred to as A/C, AC or aircon) is the process of altering the properties of air (primarily temperature and humidity) to more comfortable conditions, typically with the aim of distributing the conditioned air to an occupied space to improve thermal comfort and indoor air quality. Overview In common use, an air conditioner is a device... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air%20conditioning

brycec

(Or if you're smart, you move away...)
(or both)

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RandalSchwartz

yeah phx.
I remember one day driving along and seeing those old-time temperature/time boards outside a bank
at 1:02pm it was 102 degrees
so the colon just kept blinking in and out
I muttered "can't wait for 2:12 pm... water will be boiling"

[17:35]

mercutio

102f is 39c yes
taht seems hot

[17:37]

RandalSchwartz

it was
every year, the local tv station actually fries eggs on the sidewalk
and I recall one year it was so hot that the FAA charts don't go high enough, and all the planes were grounded for a few hours
I think that's at 105

[17:42]

mercutio

do people get up early
and go to bed lat

BryceBot

That's what she said!!

mercutio

and just sleep in the middle of the day?

RandalSchwartz

No... everything is indoors
massive amounts of A/C
people play golf at night though
most of the courses are lit
it's down to a nice 80 by then :)