#arpnetworks 2015-04-15,Wed

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mercutiook could be worse :) [00:12]
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mike-burnsThe OpenBSD team uses Comic Sans for all of their slides and as many of their Web sites as possible. It's their way of being ... funny? [02:01]
mercutioheh.
i've seen it before
but i didn't realise it was to be funny
i used to think it was weird years and years back
but now it's so accepted that it's not weird
does anyone else find the openbsd slides always load insanely slowly?
like when there was those presentations with slides, it must be the slowest slide showing i've seen
http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2015/asiabsdcon/mgp00001.html
those kinds of ones, except it's fast now
go figure
http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2015/asiabsdcon/mgp00003.html
ahh this one is slow
oh it's 1.5 mb
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mike-burnsHa, yeah. Gotta get all the graphics! [03:09]
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qbitwooo
brycec: what did I do?
oh
dfly
mercutio: yeah - i really like it
it didn't like my machine though
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m0undsmercutio: dragonfly is nice [12:08]
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mercutiom0unds: are you using it in any normal capacity these days? [13:54]
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m0undsi used it for 8 mos or so last year
and as a server os, not desktop (i don't use linux or bsd as a desktop)
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mercutioare you doing windows desktop?
i tried to use os x as a desktop a while back
(on a g4)
it required a bit of screwing around, but seemed a lot easier than windows.
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m0undsyes, windows
osx is a pain in the ass on hackintosh stuff
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [15:03]
m0undsBryceBot: no [15:03]
BryceBotOh, okay... I'm sorry. 'osx is a pain in the ass on hackintosh stuff' [15:03]
m0undsnotebook is a mac, so it runs osx [15:03]
mercutiothe g4 was a mac mini
i did try hackintosh after that
apple dropped powerpc really quickly.
this was years ago - but even then it was a struuggle.
it's kind of like core2duos getting dropped now
so i think i've found a good cheap affordable 5tb hard-drive, but shipping costs are huge :(
it's only $10 more expensive than seagate
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Desktop-External-HDWC250XK3J1/dp/B00J5EZNO0
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BryceBotAmazon: "Toshiba 5TB Canvio Desktop External Hard Drive (HDWC250XK3J1)" [15:08]
mercutioyou can remove the hard-disk.. [15:08]
m0undsright, i know what a g4 was - i was saying i use windows because trying to hack osx to run on "unsupported" hardware sucks
i have a g4 powerbook somewhere
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mercutioi didn't find it too bad.
video performance kind of sucked. but i think that's os x in general
steam started really slow, but it's like that on linux too
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m0undsin my case, i had to use a flash drive to boot it so it wasn't worth my time [15:13]
mercutioi was using uefi [15:13]
m0undsi was too
and it didn't work at all, and using legacy worked w/a flash drive
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mercutioweird [15:14]
m0undsand that was without add-in graphics or anything else, just booting using onboard gpu and whatnot
at any rate, not worth my time
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mercutioyeah i understand.
if i was to get someone else to do hackintosh that wasn't pretty geeky
i would recommend against it without blinking
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m0undsyea, it's like trying to use linux on a desktop in the 90s
nothx
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mercutioihad to screw around with pci id's for drivers and so on
which isn't that complicated when you know what it's about
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m0undsyep, had to do that to even get the onboard gpu to function correctly
radeon wouldn't work at all (7970)
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mercutioyeh openbsd was acutally easier than linux for a while there
my radeon worked
5750
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m0undsyea, mine was "supposed" to work
and that's all the documentation that existed: "should work"
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mercutioyeah [15:16]
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m0unds_wee [23:23]
mercutiowhat's up? [23:28]
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