[03:29] *** SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks [07:35] I had to bump CentOS up to 4 GB before I could get the OOM killer to quit killing yum [07:43] *** poulsen has joined #arpnetworks [07:43] *** poulsen has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:44] *** poulsen has joined #arpnetworks [08:14] +1 for ninite [09:09] *** SpeedBus has quit IRC (Quit: SpeedBus@CrownCloud.net) [09:17] *** SpeedBus has joined #arpnetworks [10:15] *** mnathani__ has joined #arpnetworks [10:19] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:28] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [10:29] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [10:30] *** mnathani__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:52] *** forgotten has joined #arpnetworks [10:52] graphs down? [10:55] appears that way [10:55] not loading for me [10:59] k [11:34] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [12:28] same here. emailed support. [12:28] Guessing it ran out of memory again, same as last time it "crashed" this way (sits and spins forever) [13:14] brycec: how is your ARP Metal box coming along [13:14] ? [13:14] Great, I'd say. [13:15] No issues, runs fast, etc [13:16] my main concern with the Metal series is no redunand storage out of the box [13:16] s/redunand/redundant [13:16] my main concern with the Metal series is no redundant storage out of the box [13:16] which make a vps way more reliable [13:16] yeah, a reasonable concern, but that's only for 2 of the "tiers" [13:17] https://www.arpnetworks.com/dedicated $129 and $149 options are single-drive [13:17] (and fwiw, I sent up_the_irons an email this morning asking about upgradeabilty) [13:18] the 2 hard drive options $169 and $189 still no Hardware RAID [13:18] * brycec is almost always happier with software-based raid [13:19] (Cheaper, more flexible, just as fast, not tied to a specific controller, etc) [13:20] I know Linux works well with software RAID, but I dont think Windows and VMware support it [13:21] heh, I'm *nix-only so my experience is mdadm, softraid(), ZFS, etc [13:21] And in those instances, it's great. [13:21] I don't have a clue how to setup software raid in windows... [13:21] (or if it's even possible) [13:21] (I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't) [13:21] (I think OSX can do soft-raid for non-boot disks.) [13:22] I think you can make a RAID volume, just cant boot off it [13:22] in Windows [14:25] mnathani_: run windows as a vm on linux? :) [14:25] esxi doesn't have raid support [14:26] it's kind of lame [14:26] so you need something that does external raid [14:26] but some people run that something else as a freebsd/opensolaris/linux host with zfs [14:26] and export the data store for virtual machines from the virtual machine [14:28] that vaguely sounds like a recipe for disaster [14:29] using esxi? [14:29] lots of people do it [14:29] i'm not sure how the base vm's storage is allocated. [14:29] like i'd want to do vt-d and pass through the sata controller [14:30] nah, using a vm to do the storage for other vms. It should be fine, so long as you don't create any circular dependancies of that storage VM on other VMs that have their storage on it (like LDAP auth or something) [14:30] yeah well i'd ratehr a second server myself :/ [14:31] damnit now i'm curious what esxi's openbsd performance is like [14:31] someone in the zol channel was tellign me about this iscsi thing they were doing that made it easy to change what a computer booted [14:32] but even just reimaging quickly would be nice :) [14:33] OpenBSD on ESXi is quite reasonable. Can't say as I've done a ton of performance testing, but it seems to respond as fast as bare metal would. [14:37] *** hoggworm_ has joined #arpnetworks [14:37] brycec: oh i got lousy performance last time i tried it.. [14:38] oh openbsd doesn't support kvm virtio drivers does it? [14:38] oops [14:38] esxi doesn't. [14:38] Yep, it does [14:38] I'm using vmxnet3 and virtio for disk [14:38] i was thinking there may be virtio on esxi now [14:38] erk i meant on esxi [14:39] *** hoggworm has quit IRC (Write error: Broken pipe) [14:39] "SCSI Controller Type: Paravirtual" close enough :p [14:39] oh interesting [14:40] (And as I said, vmxnet3 for network) [14:40] oh right [14:40] cool i should try it [14:40] i was struggling to get more than 3 gigabit/sec from guest-to-host with kvm [14:41] and even just gigabit was a struggle [14:41] err to host i mean host node [14:41] to another host it was using heaps of cpu just doing gigabit [14:41] heh [14:41] my 10gbe cards came though [14:41] Well I can't promise or guarantee anything :p Only that it works well enough for my uses. [14:42] yeah i'm just curious about the openbsd network bottlenecks. [14:42] i want to try porting the freebsd 10gbe driver to openbsd. [14:43] Supposedly vmxnet3 is supposed to be the bee's knees, or at least the best vmware can come up with. Identifies as a 10GbE link [14:55] yeh i think part of the issue is openbsd not really supporting many offload features in general. [14:55] like on any drivers [16:05] *** poulsen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [16:14] *** poulsen has joined #arpnetworks [17:26] mnathani_: brycec : you can always add a 2nd drive to the first two plans for $20 [17:34] up_the_irons: good to know [18:06] *** poulsen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [18:25] ty up_the_irons [18:26] (but can I add a 3rd? a 4th?) [18:26] * brycec reads up_the_irons' email reply [18:27] Dual E5-2630? Shiny... (especially considering the blade size) [18:27] up_the_irons: btw, don't forget the comma (thumb) \m/, [18:29] dual e5-2630 is overkill for most people [18:30] you need heavily threading to really benefit [18:30] (he mentioned he has a couple of systems build with those, a mere $499) [18:30] *built [18:30] on "light" load it's no better than an e3 [18:30] yeah if you haev high load it would be nice :) [18:31] even dual quad core+ht is hard to use [18:31] i'm pretty sure e5-2630 is hex core [18:31] there's also numa complications... [18:31] memory and pci-e devices are owned by the cpu [18:32] so it's not straight twice as fast as single cpu [18:36] *** poulsen has joined #arpnetworks [18:52] *** poulsen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:01] *** mhoran_ is now known as mhoran [19:02] Anyone know of a service that can host a contact form on their site, where I can include it on my site and when someone fills it out their hosted site can send me an email ? [19:04] a quick search found: http://blog.templatemonster.com/2010/07/08/free-contact-form-services/ [19:04] but not sure which ones are hosted and send me emails directly [19:09] you could just use something like formmail? [19:09] it's not hosted though [19:11] looks like googling such may help you find a hosted service though [19:14] There are many results [19:14] was hoping for someone to refer me to a service they might have tried [19:15] ahh ok [19:15] someone still might :) [19:19] Doesn't Google Docs' Forms do that? [19:19] mnathani_: ^ [19:20] I've used it in similar ways, and I know I've been the end-user of it too. [19:20] With the added bonus that it gets stored right in a spreadsheet. [19:20] http://www.google.com/forms/about/ [19:22] It certainly will serve as a contact form. Only a question of how "embeddable" it is. [19:23] I tried an embedded google form [19:23] it works great in that it puts the result in a spreadsheet [19:24] but $client would prefer an email for each form submission [19:25] (Oh good, they do allow embedding) [19:25] 2 ways I know: iframe, and another method where you copy and paste the sourcecode [19:26] into your page [19:26] mnathani_: You should be able to setup notifications on the spreadsheet to email on any change. [19:26] s/should be able/can/ [19:26] mnathani_: You can to setup notifications on the spreadsheet to email on any change. [19:26] (meh, close enough. English hard is.) [19:32] brycec: you can do 3 and 4 but requires a 1U chassis, so we'd have to migrate you if you wanted that [19:32] brycec: the E5's are 1Us, not blades [19:32] Ah, good to know. Thanks for the clarity, up_the_irons :D [19:32] brycec: ah, i never saw it with the comma (thumb) before ;) [19:32] np! [19:32] lol [19:32] * up_the_irons leaves the office [19:33] * brycec remains in the office... because he works from home. [19:33] I enabled spreadsheet notification, but it doesnt seem to notify consistently, and even when it does, it links to the spreadsheet rather than present the contact form submission contents itself [19:34] hm, bummer. mnathani_: That just leaves writing some Google Script :D (well I'm sure someone else already has written that exact function) [19:36] eg under Forms' "Add-ons" menu, there is one named "Form Notifications" [19:37] (And the published source, because I can't link to the Add-on itself https://github.com/googlesamples/apps-script-form-notifications-addon( [19:40] checking out the addon [19:41] hadn't seen that before [19:41] thanks brycec [19:41] np, gl [20:08] *** MrMorden has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [20:08] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [20:14] *** MrMorden has joined #arpnetworks [20:14] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks [22:17] can dd-wrt / tomato and the like do OSPF and other routing? [22:18] @google ddwrt ospf [22:18] Searching for 'dd wrt ospf' instead. [22:18] 2,070 total results returned for 'dd wrt ospf', here's 3 [22:18] Quagga - DD-WRT Wiki (http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Quagga) [edit] OSPF. We have 2 ways of configuring Quagga. The 1st is vtysh, the cli client with IOS admin style config and 2nd via DD-WRT Web-If ... [22:18] DD-WRT Features (http://www.instructables.com/id/Old-Dog,-New-Tricks%3A-Mod-a-Linksys-WRT54G-series-R/step12/DD-WRT-Features/) Here are just some of the features that this DD-WRT firmware makes available ... Configure your router as a border router using BGP or OSPF routing protocols. [22:18] DD-WRT/Features - Wikibooks, open books for an open world (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/DD-WRT/Features) These are the features available in the Standard version of DD-WRT. ... RFlow/ MACupd; Routing: Static entries and Gateway, BGP, OSPF & RIP2 via (BIRD) ... [22:19] Seems like it [22:19] <-- Exactly curious enough to @google it, but not enough to open a browser. [22:20] I too find your bot useful to parse weather info, when not concerned enough to browse with all that js, html and graphics to search for the weather [22:20] @weather -v yyz [22:20] Special Weather Statement in effect from April 13, 2015 until : Special Weather Statementupdated by Environment Canadaat 7:53 PM EDT Monday 13 April 2015.---------------------------------------------------------------------Special Weather Statement for: Niagara Belleville - Quinte - Northumberland Kingston - Prince Edward Peterborough - Kawartha Lakes.Strong and gusty winds possible this evening.--------------------------------------------------- [22:20] Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Partly Cloudy ☁ 46°F (8°C), Humidity: 71%, Wind: From the South at 4 MPH, Pressure: 30.13inHg (1020mb) and holding, Dewpoint: 37°F (3°C), Feels like 45°F (7°C), Visibility: 15Mi (24km), UV index: 0, Sunrise 06:37, Sunset: 20:00, Lunar phase: Waning crescent [22:20] Tuesday: Clear 64°F/38°F (18°C/3°C) | Wednesday: Clear 61°F/39°F (16°C/4°C) | Thursday: Partly Cloudy 60°F/47°F (16°C/8°C) | Friday: Overcast 65°F/50°F (18°C/10°C) [22:20] The average high for this date is 51°F (10°C), and the record of 71°F (21°C) was set in 2014. The average low is 35°F (1°C), and the record of 28°F (-2°C) was set in 1997 [22:28] mnathani_: i'd check if bird has a packaeg available ratehr thqn auagga [22:29] https://github.com/openwrt-routing/packages [22:30] that looks like it has some extra stuff [22:30] but bird is probably in normal repo too [22:30] http://blog.philippklaus.de/2012/12/dynamic-routing-with-bird-running-the-ipv6-based-ospfv3-protocol-on-openwrt/ [22:31] I would imagine you need a pretty beefy router to support bird /quagga [22:31] if you want a full route table yeah [22:31] but most routers have 128mb of ram [22:32] not running bgp [22:32] if you want 100k routes you'd probably be fine. [22:32] just basic internal ospf [22:32] bird does ospf too [22:32] you could prboably do a full ipv6 table fine [22:32] "at the moment" [22:34] well there's choice between bird/quagga [22:34] and quagga is really buggy [22:37] that said it may be better now [22:38] both should be available.