now its' my turun to get disconnected
really must remind card company arpnetworks is a regular foreign transaction
they blocked last two forbsome reason but finally let it go through
cheeky sh1ts have started charging currency conversion too
i wonder if my paypal mc will charge currency conv if i use that to pay arp
Maybe you could use BTC?
arp accepts bitcoins?
i has 3.something
3.765
and the audacity, two of my staff are moaning i paid them today instead of tomorrow, which is a bank hokiday, as is monday.. next time ill pay them after
Since you mentioned SMTP auth attacks yesterday, I've noticed I'm getting hit with them too. *sigh* Nothing simple rate-limiting shouldn't take care of.
interesting
(Not on ARP - I don't run a mail service on ARP, but a different server I admin)
brycec: with things like that it tends to be "everywhere"
grody: paypal conversion fees are higher than my bank
my bank doesn't charge fees for currency conversion til a certain $ amt
like $500 or $1000 or something
oh interesting
i have flat 2.5% charge
yeah, my old bank was about that
i must remember to do something about that
i'm sure there'll be a way to get lower %
my shells didn't die after a day idle
It seemed equally likely to be an "everywhere" thing as being a "targeted subnet" thing. Regardless, I included the information.
yeah
my mail server isn't on arp either :)
first reboot of my box in months
just upgraded all the ports.  kernel update next
possibility that I might be on the wrong end of GamerGate next wednesday, so I need to make sure all my security patches are in.
Good luck.
Yeah... freebsdgirl says I'm not likely going to be targetted, but since we're presenting her point of view (which the idiots hate), it might go sour for people in the crossfire.
I think this will be one episode where I won't mention my email address, even though it's on the website
so there may be more ddos attacks?
hard to tell
randi isn't sure, but some of the famous people in GG have been doxed.
I have nothing to hide, so that won't be much of an issue.
That's what she said!!
You say that now, until you are "swatted"
nothign to hide doesn't mean not beign attacked :)
^ precisely my point
And in this day and age, it could be cyberattacks, and it could be physical.
kind of scary isn't it.
It is, and it's truly saddening + maddening.
i keep expecting my phone number to be cyberattacked when i have it listed on whois
for some reason it doesn't seem to be a problem.
but i'd much rather have "open contact details"
and yet a part of me is kind of paranoid.
the problem isn't that i have anything to hide or anything.
it's just that there's kind of non-descriminate cyberstalking etc these days.
i think the cheap voip phone calls thing made more telemarketers canvas normal phone numbers.
but it doesn't seem targeted yet.
but it's not a if, rather a when.
it's awesome that we live in an age where you disagree with a POV and attack the person, their livelihood, whatever instead of trying to have intelligent discussion with them
indeed
staticsafe: forgot to ask you- what'd you think of tycho's visual stuff?
prettttttttty
haha, right on :)
m0unds1: blame the internet
i don't need to blame anything
people are just turning into sociopaths
there has been growing research suggesting that internet use makes people more shortsighted with short attention spans, less deep thinking etc.
what were you saying?
although i don't think it's "new" i think it's getting worse.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/7967894/How-the-Internet-is-making-us-stupid.html
it could be that it's worse for younger people that grew up with the internet
it doesn't help that parents seem to think that giving smartphones and tablets to children is a good idea
i don't have any children, and am undecided about whether it's good or bad m0unds -- but schools here are requiring tablets, internet at hoem etc now.
like, super young kids who end up with absurdly short attention spans, can't read a book, etc because they're in such desperate need of electronic stimulus
and if you're 13 and don't have a smartphone you'll be kind of outcast afaik
dunno about that, most of my friends' kids who are around that age don't have smartphones and are happy
some of them have new fancy iphones etc too
might be regional, kids in other countries could be dicks more than they are here
m0unds: maybe it's diff there?
well my friend has kids
and the school starts at like 11 years old?
and they require tablets etc.
it's a "byod" policy.
which allows ipads, google tablets, chromebooks etc, afaik.
what weirded me otu is that they use tablets for email
sure, but there's a difference between cirriculum driven by devices and living and breathing every waking moment with a phone or tablet
m0unds: network problems?
no, stupid freenode nickserv was spitting out garbage when i was trying to auth
ahh
so i just reconnected and it seemed fine after
i wonder if there are any studies to show smartphone ownership at 13 yo
it seems disconcerting to me.
this statistic says 57% of 12 to 13 year olds have cellphones, and 87% of 14 to 17
although that's not smartphone necessarily
But in this day and age, it's almost guaranteed to be a smartphone. "Dumbphones" are increasingly rare
yeah
true
so yeah when tehy reach 14 ytou kind of have to?
and when tehy're 12 you kind of have to consider it
I've got a big solo concert to do tomorrow guys
and I'm nervous
I even had to get a permit from the City of New Orleans to play
what do you play?
guitar, harmonica, and vocals
awesome
break a leg
but I can play piano, banjo, bass, and violin
I just don't during my solo shows
tomorrow is one of the biggest ones I've ever done
I've got sound checks starting at 12 noon, I go on at 1700, and I'm slotted from 1700 - 2000
3 hours?
Yep
Long show
That's what she said!!
I'm headlining
wow
sounds exciting
and scary :)
Haha, make or break time really
This could be huge for me
maybe have a shot or two?
On the other hand, it could ruin any hopes I've ever had at attaining a music career
i found chartreuse amazing
That's what she said!!
Oh definitely
err find
it's like amazingly rejuvinating not just drunk-feeling
phlux: you play violin?  I started learning it... fucking hard.  Guitar was easy. ;)
I'll be out there a solid 5 hours before I go on, so I'll be diving in the alcohol a little bit before I take on the stage
up_the_irons: I've been playing guitar since I was 5 (took lessons at my father's request)
I just took to strings naturally after that
Piano helped me learn everything I wanted
i play guitar, bass, drums and pianner
upright bass is fun, but i have no space for one :)
@google pianner
3,340 total results returned for 'pianner', here's 3
Urban Dictionary: pianner (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pianner) Feb 6, 2009 ... Gather 'round the pianner and play us a tune, Wheezy Joe. 2. Clarence, get off  that pianner you're knockin' the glasses everywhere!
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phlux: yeah i've played guitar since i was like 10...  thought violin would "just be another string instrument"... nah was way harder ;)
yeah i'm googling it
not very succesfully :)
piano :)
is it a sepcial piano?
or is just a funny term for it?
just a silly word for it
ok
up_the_irons: it's difficult getting used to fretless instruments after playing guitar
guitar makes everything easy because the frets are predetermined
yeah, going from having frets or at least fret markers (on fretless electric for instance) to having nothing is pretty tough
phlux: yeah it's hard for me to get used to
I find a certain freedom in a fretless instrument, though
i'm always second guessing myself
I can find odd notes that I'd never hit with my guitar
I use my slide often when I'm playing with others
"was that slightly sharp/flat?"
haha
I'm a freaking perfectionist when it comes to that stuff
I will not settle for "close enough"
how do you eventually get it perfect every time?
do you feel it, or hear it, or both?
maybe being off slightly adds character.
mercutio: no, it just sounds like crap
;)
I hired a band for my wedding, and the dude played a "D" when it should've been a D7 (forget the song, but distinctly remember being able to play it myself) and I gave him a glare
i've never tried playing a fretless instrument
phlux: haha
up_the_irons: practice, practice, practice. When you feel like you've practiced enough, practice again.
phlux: lol
I beat the living shit out of some violins learning how to get things right
I get so frustrated when I'm not perfect
the closest i've experienced is bends on guitar.
get yourself a slide
it essentially makes you fretless
hmm, pianos often sound badly tuned to me
it happens
probably because it's harder to tune them.
it is hard to tune
i've always hired someone
i has a keyboard.
it sounds terrible.
but it has midi, and they keys that do light/firm pushes.
or wahtever you call it.
so i assume it's probably possible to improve the sound
but expensive pianos do actually sound pretty awesome
even if you can hardly play like me
phlux: do you get paid to play?
velocity sensitive keys?
yeah, is that what you call it
i have a yamaha electric piano thing
slightly shorter than a full scale
i have casio ctk-900
so seems short?
61 keys
it's 83 normally isn't it?
88
oh it's 88 normally
isn't 83 how many keys pc xt has?
seems it is :)
mercutio: yep, I do. $250/hr right now
so I'll pull home $750 tomorrow
does that include the 5 hours?
ahh
maybe one day I'll be famous and I can charge $10k/hr like Pearl Jam :P
is that how much they charge?
how much does each person make?
from what i've heard starving artist tends to be where it's at for most musicians
and that lots of lower musicians make more money teaching people to play than playing themselves.
that's true
I make a lot more money being in the USCG than I do performing :P
I'd love to quit the CG though
Focus on the music
so it's more about because you want to than to make money
but I have a wife and child to support
yeah right now it is
but if I focused on it primarily, I'd need to support my family somehow
by teaching :/
you could lose your passion i supupose
nah I could definitely teach
I love teaching
When I teach, I always think maybe I'm instructing the next Hendrix or something
and that, thanks to me, this dude is going to be hugely famous someday
and *I* gave him/her a skill that they can use for the rest of their lives regardless of age or occupation
While my friends were learning how to play football, I was learning music
Now, I still watch football, believe me
but at 26/27, are my friends still playing competitive football? nope
am I still making music? bet your ass!
phlux: Best of luck, break a leg!
Violin was the first (okay, only really) string instrument I learned. It's kindof ruined me on fretted instruments, "chords" just don't come naturally to me. However perfect pitch does.
:D
But I will tell you that there is nothing "close enough" when it comes to a note - the closer you are without being spot on, the more wrong it sounds and stands-out.