brycec: 187.167.63.64 www.samsung.com:80 - [15/Mar/2015:18:51:26 -0700] "GET /global/products/tv/infolink/us.xml HTTP/1.1" 301 178 "-" "-"
wtf? I don't host samsung.com! (so, presumably, it's an attempt to proxy) ***: mnathani_ has quit IRC () mercutio: yeah probably a proxy thing ***: mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks mnathani_: brycec: whats a sparce file? brycec: @wiki sparse file BryceBot: Sparse file :: In computer science, a sparse file is a type of computer file that attempts to use file system space more efficiently when the file itself is mostly empty. This is achieved by writing brief information (metadata) representing the empty blocks to disk instead of the actual "empty" space which makes up the block, using less disk space. The full block size is written to... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse%20file brycec: :D mercutio: @wiki maxthon BryceBot: Maxthon :: Maxthon (originally known as MyIE2) is a freeware web browser for Windows, OS X and Linux that is developed in China by the company Maxthon Ltd. It is also available on Windows Phone 8, iOS and Android platforms as Maxthon Mobile. Since the release of version 3, Maxthon supports both the Trident and the WebKit rendering engines. Maxthon won CNET WebWare 100 Awards in 2008... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxthon mercutio: i want that on command line :) ***: medum has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: brycec: that's evil and i love it grody: some douche keeps trying to dos my ps3 whenever i go online and play m0unds: eh? grody: thing has had the same public IP for about 3 years, so im not surprised i've pissed off a few people.. but trying to flood an 80 meg link with 33 mbit/s is pure futile m0unds: what kind of traffic is it? grody: random UDP
it's a small set of IP's too, easy to filter.. just annoying seeing it fill up the logs m0unds: that's weird. i don't know how anyone would be able to discern the public IP of your PS3 specifically
you weren't hosting a game or anything? ***: grody has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
grody has joined #arpnetworks grody: wow that was interesting.. i lost internet off wifi as the same time this shell b0rked
m0unds, yea i've been in a few lan parties over the last few weeks
dont think the lil skiddies liked i kicked their arses
kinda hard diagnosing what faulted when several things collapse at once, especially when they are unlinked/unrelated brycec: m0unds: I'm disappointed that there haven't been any further attempts since that one. In fact, pretty much all proxy attempts dried up after that. Really weird. ***: jonathanbernard has joined #arpnetworks jonathanbernard: Hello all, is anyone from ARP support in the channel by chance? brycec: jonathanbernard: They aren't usually active. If you need ARP support themselves, email is your best bet. But many of us in the channel can help with questions. jonathanbernard: OK, thanks. I did something stupid and needed a bit of help. I'l drop them an email. brycec: Alright then :) Feel free to ask for advice here too, it's what the channel is for.
(I can't think of what you would have done that requires ARP's intervention - you have access to vnc and serial terminals, you can load ISO's yourself, all the relevant networking information is at your fingertips...) jonathanbernard: brycec: Thanks. :) I made the mistake of changing my username login name on a new OpenBSD server I was setting up and then dropping out of the root shell before testing I could still su back to root. I wasn't expecting the name change to alter the groups I belonged to. brycec: haha jonathanbernard: byrcec: I have the user credentials, and the root credentials, but I can't get a root shell without being part of the wheel group. The arpnetworks account still is, so I just need them to add me back. brycec: Well then, connect an openbsd ISO and boot to that. jonathanbernard: Yep... :)
Good idea, I hate to waste time re-installing, but its the weekend, so I might as well. brycec: You don't need to reinstall
Just mount the filesystem
*Just mount the filesystem, edit the appropriate files and run pwd_mkdb jonathanbernard: I'm not following entirely. Mount to /? brycec: mount /dev/sd0a /mnt/
vi /mnt/etc/master.passwd
pwd_mkdb -d /mnt/etc /mnt/etc/master.passwd
umount /mnt
reboot
Just be sure the OpenBSD ISO is the same release as you have installed jonathanbernard: Striaght-forward enough, let me give it a try. CaZe: Or login as root over the serial console. brycec: (Oh I didn't see that he had root creds)
s/serial/vnc BryceBot: <CaZe> Or login as root over the vnc console. brycec: depending on which he enabled
Good luck, jonathanbernard -: brycec runs into the "Real World" to do errands brycec: (thx CaZe ) jonathanbernard: Both are enabled at the moment, I believe.
I'm in! Thanks brycec, CaZe mercutio: heh no-one wants to use vnc :)
jonathanbernard: is this a new vm?
always good to see more openbsd users brycec: mercutio: Nobody should ever /need/ to use VNC, but it sure is handy to have :p m0unds: i'm probably in the minority, but vnc is more convenient for me than serial consoles wrt VPS' mercutio: i prefer ssh :) plett: I never understood that. Why would I want a gui console to a headless VPS that I'm just going to log in to via text? mercutio: heh m0unds: i only use it if something's broken
at that point, all bets are off mercutio: in case you need to fix something m0unds: ^
literally the only reason i use it mercutio: but yeah that's why i think serial working by default is important :) plett: Just give me serial port access (and a properly set up machine that has bootloader etc on serial) mercutio: yeh how do youu get qemu to do serial ? :) plett: It must be possible, libvirt does it mercutio: oh -nographic and -serial stdio should work jonathanbernard: mercutio: Yes, it's a new VM. plett: I use libvirt for stuff here, so "virsh console vpsname" Just Works mercutio: sigh
i should play with this
oh? plett: Driving qemu directly sounds like an awful lot of pain mercutio: i'm mostly familiar with xen m0unds: yea, virsh makes life a lot easier mercutio: not really
i've done it before.
arp uses virsh though
i think a lot of people do
i use xl with xen m0unds: iirc, it's included when you instal libvirt-qemu on ubuntu
by default mercutio: err libvirt
hmm i actually have qemu installed on here brycec: m0unds: I'm with you. Serial requires initial setup, and for me to have my key handy, and I don't believe it lets me select the boot device, so VNC ends up much more useful. mercutio: the boot device stuff, i'm of the opinion you should set it in a control panel of kinds
preferably integrated with serial console too.
with vnc and the reboot thing, you have to connect to vnc straight away
an extra delay was added to make it easier. plett: Serial doesn't require any initial setup if you ran the installer through serial, at least on linux brycec: And how do you get a Linux installer using serial by default? I'm unaware of any current ISO's that do that. mercutio: i like the idea of being able to tell it "reboot to cd"
brycec: in openbsd i've done it fine :) plett: I've seen on FreeBSD that you still have to set up loader.conf and ttys, even if the installer already knew it was using serial itself mercutio: i did a floppy install of openbsd over serial once. brycec: I use EFI's bootnext for that :) mercutio: i'm disillusioned by freebsd plett: brycec: Generally, just pass it a kernel argument when booting the virtual machine mercutio: and i'm still waiting for this 10.1 reboot issue to be fixed brycec: plett: Not sure I follow - if I have no VGA, how do I pass it anything, let alone a kernel argument? m0unds: the first reboot thing? mercutio: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=195458 brycec: Unless you're talking about booting the kernel directly (no emulated bios, etc) mercutio: it's not only first reboot m0unds: it only happened on first reboot for me mercutio: at least i managed to make it happen again. plett: brycec: We were talking about virtual machines, so this isn't a problem m0unds: i finished my ports installs and stuff after installing from 10.1 media (this machine specifically) and rebooted, it hung, i forced reboot and have rebooted several times since and haven't managed to make ith ang again plett: You can add kernel boot arguments with -x if you're using virt-install (which you should be) m0unds: it hang* mercutio: m0unds: probably if youu did reboot then ports install then reboot it'd hang again m0unds: why would that matter? mercutio: it's disk related
it seems like something is happening out of order and it's tne syncing that's the issue rather than the rebooting m0unds: it's not like i haven't installed anything else since the initial reboot, and subsequent reboots still haven't hung mercutio: at lesat that's how i understand it - the bug tracker is long
hmm
well i think it should be fixed soon plett: That's only for Linux though. FreeBSD isn't nearly that flexible and I have to build myself a custom ISO to install via serial mercutio: plett: wow plett: Yeah, I know. BSD is supposed to be the king of being easy to install on oddball hardware brycec: There are all sorts of virtual machines... For instance, how am I to pass arguments to my ARP VPS? :p plett: And it really wouldn't be hard for the whole thing to be automated on both Linux and BSD - a simple "press a key now if you're using this serial console" thing in the first stage of the boot loader would be great
True, ARP don't expose that option, as far as I know
But how often do you need to re-install? If you're doing it all the time, it's probably easier to do it on your own hardware mercutio: plett: oh i thouught it did that to the video console too? plett: How do you mean? mercutio: the press any key plett: If you configure GRUB to have two consoles then it will print messages like that on all of them, the first to hit a key wins
I've never done dual-console stuff on BSD though mercutio: yeah that's lame :(
on my hp server it just shows to both plett: IPMI or real serial?
As HP IPMI will do redirection of text mode stuff on the 'gui' console into the IPMI serial mercutio: textcons/vsp
will both show
i just ssh with key and use those
damnit i have updated my arch kernel and have to reboot to mount a fs it seems?
i tried to maek it the same as /
or use diff host
wow the other host is silently failing mnathani_: how do I go about configuring a mikrotik router as a dhcp relay
I want it to assign ips to a subnet not directly connected to the router mercutio: i think there's a wiki mnathani_: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/DHCP_Relay mercutio: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/DHCP_Relay mnathani_: yea mercutio: sorry for the rtfm response :) mnathani_: but thats for sending to another one that is relay mercutio: so you're bridging to it? mnathani_: I am trying to get mine to accept the input from say ip helper-address and assign ip mercutio: why don't you juust give yourself an ip in the subnet? mnathani_: directly connected network is 10.10.0.0/16
I want 172.16.0.0/16 to get an IP
the subnet in question is a wireless segment I want in its own vlan mercutio: oh
that seems a common desire recently :)
i still don't think i quite understand though
and i'm trying to figure out why i can't mount a loop back file system :/
after zvol mounting wasn't working
but one thing you may want to consider is just assigning ip's on the wireless router
and blocking dhcp coming into your network from there mnathani_: got it to work
used the wizard BryceBot: YER A WIZARD mnathani_ mercutio: sweet
haha mnathani_: BryceBot: lol mercutio: i can't get my loopback mount to work
wtf
http://pastebin.com/573h1CS4
there was a df on all partitions in the middle but it was huge and long
how can the mount work for < 1 min ***: gizmoguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: so it wasn't silently failing; it was working, and then stopping to work really quickly m0unds: haha, BryceBot passed up an opportunity to comment on "huge and long"? mnathani_: how can my LAN clients access wireless clients
presently they are configured with a default gateway 10.10.10.10
but wireless clients are in 172.16.0.0/16 which is behind 10.10.255.1 mercutio: add a static route? mnathani_: kind of hard to do on each client mercutio: m0unds: haha, yeah mnathani_: and some devices dont even have the option, like my network printer mercutio: i got distracted trying to fix mount issue, i think i get how to use sasl with weechat now though :)
mnathani_: static route from 10.10.10.10
to 172.16.0.0/16 mnathani_: 10.10.10.10 can reach 172.16
its the cilents that cant mercutio: but the clients should use a gateway of 10.10.10.10 to reach 172.16.0.0/16 ?
so if 10.10.10.10 can reach it
it should just work mnathani_: actually never mind
it does work
silly me mercutio: i wanted to play with kvm on arch :(
but when zvols and loopback file systems don't like me
it makes it hard...
maybe i should just do it on another host
i wanted to play with the serial stuff
you know you have too many computers when you misplace a whole computer ***: jonathanbernard has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) mercutio: hmm my first ssd failure staticsafe: o/ mercutio: it's m4 reconditioned drive, died within an hour of usage
i found my computer, :)
did pxe install, all went well staticsafe: reconditioned, you bought a used drive? mercutio: yeah
it had uptime of 13 hours staticsafe: that is always a terrible idea mercutio: and a smart test.
http://pastebin.com/eD3UXTZJ
cos i thought it could be plugged into sata2 port... m0unds: i wouldn't do it for consumer stuff, but i've deployed hundreds of refurb disks (warranty replacements) that worked well enough mercutio: well they were $50 for 256gb m0unds: only one immediate failure out of probably 200
yeah, that's worth the gamble i think mercutio: so i figured it may be good for test network
i was thinking about sticking two in and doing raid.
but i've only got 3x256, and 3x128
it was going really quickly still
i'm trying to figure out if there's a way to make it go again
there's a uefi pxe4 boot before the bios pxe4 boot
and that seems to be trying to network boot first, so i may be able to get linux up
i dunno why uefi wasn't booting and bios was, i dunno how uefi pxe works, maybe need a different file?
dhcp-boot=grubnetx64.efi.signed
apparently that's what you do
no menu but it sees my file systems, weird
bah i think it's bios issue because it had dual gpt/bios partitions and was booting in legacy mode
why it got the crc error i have no idea though
and why it locks up when it gets confused... ***: kevr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
kevr has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: hmm kvm has a new faster disk i/o than normal virtio ***: NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (*.net *.split) mercutio: so compiling custom kernel improveds kvm network performnace a little
but using a bigger mtu makes way more difference ***: NiTeMaRe has joined #arpnetworks