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| brycec | I seriously wonder if I'm one someone's list of proxies :/
187.167.63.64 www.samsung.com:80 - [15/Mar/2015:18:51:26 -0700] "GET /global/products/tv/infolink/us.xml HTTP/1.1" 301 178 "-" "-" wtf? I don't host samsung.com! (so, presumably, it's an attempt to proxy) | [00:00] |
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| mercutio | yeah probably a proxy thing | [00:06] |
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| mnathani_ | brycec: whats a sparce file? | [00:12] |
| brycec | @wiki sparse file | [00:12] |
| BryceBot | Sparse file :: In computer science, a sparse file is a type of computer file that attempts to use file system space more efficiently when the file itself is mostly empty. This is achieved by writing brief information (metadata) representing the empty blocks to disk instead of the actual "empty" space which makes up the block, using less disk space. The full block size is written to... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse%20file | [00:12] |
| brycec | :D | [00:12] |
| mercutio | @wiki maxthon | [00:16] |
| BryceBot | Maxthon :: Maxthon (originally known as MyIE2) is a freeware web browser for Windows, OS X and Linux that is developed in China by the company Maxthon Ltd. It is also available on Windows Phone 8, iOS and Android platforms as Maxthon Mobile. Since the release of version 3, Maxthon supports both the Trident and the WebKit rendering engines. Maxthon won CNET WebWare 100 Awards in 2008... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxthon | [00:16] |
| mercutio | i want that on command line :) | [00:17] |
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| m0unds | brycec: that's evil and i love it | [06:39] |
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| grody | some douche keeps trying to dos my ps3 whenever i go online and play | [07:21] |
| m0unds | eh? | [07:21] |
| grody | thing has had the same public IP for about 3 years, so im not surprised i've pissed off a few people.. but trying to flood an 80 meg link with 33 mbit/s is pure futile | [07:21] |
| m0unds | what kind of traffic is it? | [07:22] |
| grody | random UDP
it's a small set of IP's too, easy to filter.. just annoying seeing it fill up the logs | [07:22] |
| m0unds | that's weird. i don't know how anyone would be able to discern the public IP of your PS3 specifically
you weren't hosting a game or anything? | [07:22] |
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| grody | wow that was interesting.. i lost internet off wifi as the same time this shell b0rked
m0unds, yea i've been in a few lan parties over the last few weeks dont think the lil skiddies liked i kicked their arses kinda hard diagnosing what faulted when several things collapse at once, especially when they are unlinked/unrelated | [07:33] |
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| brycec | m0unds: I'm disappointed that there haven't been any further attempts since that one. In fact, pretty much all proxy attempts dried up after that. Really weird. | [10:02] |
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| jonathanbernard | Hello all, is anyone from ARP support in the channel by chance? | [10:53] |
| brycec | jonathanbernard: They aren't usually active. If you need ARP support themselves, email is your best bet. But many of us in the channel can help with questions. | [10:58] |
| jonathanbernard | OK, thanks. I did something stupid and needed a bit of help. I'l drop them an email. | [10:59] |
| brycec | Alright then :) Feel free to ask for advice here too, it's what the channel is for.
(I can't think of what you would have done that requires ARP's intervention - you have access to vnc and serial terminals, you can load ISO's yourself, all the relevant networking information is at your fingertips...) | [11:00] |
| jonathanbernard | brycec: Thanks. :) I made the mistake of changing my username login name on a new OpenBSD server I was setting up and then dropping out of the root shell before testing I could still su back to root. I wasn't expecting the name change to alter the groups I belonged to. | [11:02] |
| brycec | haha | [11:03] |
| jonathanbernard | byrcec: I have the user credentials, and the root credentials, but I can't get a root shell without being part of the wheel group. The arpnetworks account still is, so I just need them to add me back. | [11:04] |
| brycec | Well then, connect an openbsd ISO and boot to that. | [11:04] |
| jonathanbernard | Yep... :)
Good idea, I hate to waste time re-installing, but its the weekend, so I might as well. | [11:04] |
| brycec | You don't need to reinstall
Just mount the filesystem *Just mount the filesystem, edit the appropriate files and run pwd_mkdb | [11:05] |
| jonathanbernard | I'm not following entirely. Mount to /? | [11:06] |
| brycec | mount /dev/sd0a /mnt/
vi /mnt/etc/master.passwd pwd_mkdb -d /mnt/etc /mnt/etc/master.passwd umount /mnt reboot Just be sure the OpenBSD ISO is the same release as you have installed | [11:07] |
| jonathanbernard | Striaght-forward enough, let me give it a try. | [11:08] |
| CaZe | Or login as root over the serial console. | [11:09] |
| brycec | (Oh I didn't see that he had root creds)
s/serial/vnc | [11:09] |
| BryceBot | <CaZe> Or login as root over the vnc console. | [11:09] |
| brycec | depending on which he enabled
Good luck, jonathanbernard brycec runs into the "Real World" to do errands (thx CaZe ) | [11:09] |
| jonathanbernard | Both are enabled at the moment, I believe.
I'm in! Thanks brycec, CaZe | [11:11] |
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| mercutio | heh no-one wants to use vnc :)
jonathanbernard: is this a new vm? always good to see more openbsd users | [12:52] |
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| brycec | mercutio: Nobody should ever /need/ to use VNC, but it sure is handy to have :p | [14:03] |
| m0unds | i'm probably in the minority, but vnc is more convenient for me than serial consoles wrt VPS' | [14:05] |
| mercutio | i prefer ssh :) | [14:06] |
| plett | I never understood that. Why would I want a gui console to a headless VPS that I'm just going to log in to via text? | [14:07] |
| mercutio | heh | [14:07] |
| m0unds | i only use it if something's broken
at that point, all bets are off | [14:08] |
| mercutio | in case you need to fix something | [14:08] |
| m0unds | ^
literally the only reason i use it | [14:08] |
| mercutio | but yeah that's why i think serial working by default is important :) | [14:08] |
| plett | Just give me serial port access (and a properly set up machine that has bootloader etc on serial) | [14:08] |
| mercutio | yeh how do youu get qemu to do serial ? :) | [14:08] |
| plett | It must be possible, libvirt does it | [14:09] |
| mercutio | oh -nographic and -serial stdio should work | [14:09] |
| jonathanbernard | mercutio: Yes, it's a new VM. | [14:10] |
| plett | I use libvirt for stuff here, so "virsh console vpsname" Just Works | [14:10] |
| mercutio | sigh
i should play with this oh? | [14:10] |
| plett | Driving qemu directly sounds like an awful lot of pain | [14:10] |
| mercutio | i'm mostly familiar with xen | [14:10] |
| m0unds | yea, virsh makes life a lot easier | [14:11] |
| mercutio | not really
i've done it before. arp uses virsh though i think a lot of people do i use xl with xen | [14:11] |
| m0unds | iirc, it's included when you instal libvirt-qemu on ubuntu
by default | [14:11] |
| mercutio | err libvirt
hmm i actually have qemu installed on here | [14:11] |
| brycec | m0unds: I'm with you. Serial requires initial setup, and for me to have my key handy, and I don't believe it lets me select the boot device, so VNC ends up much more useful. | [14:12] |
| mercutio | the boot device stuff, i'm of the opinion you should set it in a control panel of kinds
preferably integrated with serial console too. with vnc and the reboot thing, you have to connect to vnc straight away an extra delay was added to make it easier. | [14:12] |
| plett | Serial doesn't require any initial setup if you ran the installer through serial, at least on linux | [14:13] |
| brycec | And how do you get a Linux installer using serial by default? I'm unaware of any current ISO's that do that. | [14:13] |
| mercutio | i like the idea of being able to tell it "reboot to cd"
brycec: in openbsd i've done it fine :) | [14:13] |
| plett | I've seen on FreeBSD that you still have to set up loader.conf and ttys, even if the installer already knew it was using serial itself | [14:14] |
| mercutio | i did a floppy install of openbsd over serial once. | [14:14] |
| brycec | I use EFI's bootnext for that :) | [14:14] |
| mercutio | i'm disillusioned by freebsd | [14:14] |
| plett | brycec: Generally, just pass it a kernel argument when booting the virtual machine | [14:14] |
| mercutio | and i'm still waiting for this 10.1 reboot issue to be fixed | [14:15] |
| brycec | plett: Not sure I follow - if I have no VGA, how do I pass it anything, let alone a kernel argument? | [14:15] |
| m0unds | the first reboot thing? | [14:15] |
| mercutio | https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=195458 | [14:15] |
| brycec | Unless you're talking about booting the kernel directly (no emulated bios, etc) | [14:15] |
| mercutio | it's not only first reboot | [14:15] |
| m0unds | it only happened on first reboot for me | [14:16] |
| mercutio | at least i managed to make it happen again. | [14:16] |
| plett | brycec: We were talking about virtual machines, so this isn't a problem | [14:16] |
| m0unds | i finished my ports installs and stuff after installing from 10.1 media (this machine specifically) and rebooted, it hung, i forced reboot and have rebooted several times since and haven't managed to make ith ang again | [14:16] |
| plett | You can add kernel boot arguments with -x if you're using virt-install (which you should be) | [14:16] |
| m0unds | it hang* | [14:16] |
| mercutio | m0unds: probably if youu did reboot then ports install then reboot it'd hang again | [14:17] |
| m0unds | why would that matter? | [14:17] |
| mercutio | it's disk related
it seems like something is happening out of order and it's tne syncing that's the issue rather than the rebooting | [14:17] |
| m0unds | it's not like i haven't installed anything else since the initial reboot, and subsequent reboots still haven't hung | [14:18] |
| mercutio | at lesat that's how i understand it - the bug tracker is long
hmm well i think it should be fixed soon | [14:18] |
| plett | That's only for Linux though. FreeBSD isn't nearly that flexible and I have to build myself a custom ISO to install via serial | [14:18] |
| mercutio | plett: wow | [14:19] |
| plett | Yeah, I know. BSD is supposed to be the king of being easy to install on oddball hardware | [14:20] |
| brycec | There are all sorts of virtual machines... For instance, how am I to pass arguments to my ARP VPS? :p | [14:20] |
| plett | And it really wouldn't be hard for the whole thing to be automated on both Linux and BSD - a simple "press a key now if you're using this serial console" thing in the first stage of the boot loader would be great
True, ARP don't expose that option, as far as I know But how often do you need to re-install? If you're doing it all the time, it's probably easier to do it on your own hardware | [14:21] |
| mercutio | plett: oh i thouught it did that to the video console too? | [14:24] |
| plett | How do you mean? | [14:25] |
| mercutio | the press any key | [14:25] |
| plett | If you configure GRUB to have two consoles then it will print messages like that on all of them, the first to hit a key wins
I've never done dual-console stuff on BSD though | [14:26] |
| mercutio | yeah that's lame :(
on my hp server it just shows to both | [14:26] |
| plett | IPMI or real serial?
As HP IPMI will do redirection of text mode stuff on the 'gui' console into the IPMI serial | [14:27] |
| mercutio | textcons/vsp
will both show i just ssh with key and use those damnit i have updated my arch kernel and have to reboot to mount a fs it seems? i tried to maek it the same as / or use diff host | [14:29] |
| wow the other host is silently failing | [14:45] | |
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| mnathani_ | how do I go about configuring a mikrotik router as a dhcp relay
I want it to assign ips to a subnet not directly connected to the router | [15:06] |
| mercutio | i think there's a wiki | [15:06] |
| mnathani_ | http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/DHCP_Relay | [15:06] |
| mercutio | http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/DHCP_Relay | [15:06] |
| mnathani_ | yea | [15:06] |
| mercutio | sorry for the rtfm response :) | [15:06] |
| mnathani_ | but thats for sending to another one that is relay | [15:07] |
| mercutio | so you're bridging to it? | [15:07] |
| mnathani_ | I am trying to get mine to accept the input from say ip helper-address and assign ip | [15:07] |
| mercutio | why don't you juust give yourself an ip in the subnet? | [15:07] |
| mnathani_ | directly connected network is 10.10.0.0/16
I want 172.16.0.0/16 to get an IP the subnet in question is a wireless segment I want in its own vlan | [15:07] |
| mercutio | oh
that seems a common desire recently :) i still don't think i quite understand though and i'm trying to figure out why i can't mount a loop back file system :/ after zvol mounting wasn't working but one thing you may want to consider is just assigning ip's on the wireless router and blocking dhcp coming into your network from there | [15:09] |
| mnathani_ | got it to work
used the wizard | [15:13] |
| BryceBot | YER A WIZARD mnathani_ | [15:13] |
| mercutio | sweet
haha | [15:13] |
| mnathani_ | BryceBot: lol | [15:14] |
| mercutio | i can't get my loopback mount to work
wtf http://pastebin.com/573h1CS4 there was a df on all partitions in the middle but it was huge and long how can the mount work for < 1 min | [15:14] |
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| mercutio | so it wasn't silently failing; it was working, and then stopping to work really quickly | [15:18] |
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| m0unds | haha, BryceBot passed up an opportunity to comment on "huge and long"? | [15:37] |
| mnathani_ | how can my LAN clients access wireless clients
presently they are configured with a default gateway 10.10.10.10 but wireless clients are in 172.16.0.0/16 which is behind 10.10.255.1 | [15:38] |
| mercutio | add a static route? | [15:45] |
| mnathani_ | kind of hard to do on each client | [15:45] |
| mercutio | m0unds: haha, yeah | [15:45] |
| mnathani_ | and some devices dont even have the option, like my network printer | [15:46] |
| mercutio | i got distracted trying to fix mount issue, i think i get how to use sasl with weechat now though :)
mnathani_: static route from 10.10.10.10 to 172.16.0.0/16 | [15:46] |
| mnathani_ | 10.10.10.10 can reach 172.16
its the cilents that cant | [15:46] |
| mercutio | but the clients should use a gateway of 10.10.10.10 to reach 172.16.0.0/16 ?
so if 10.10.10.10 can reach it it should just work | [15:47] |
| mnathani_ | actually never mind
it does work silly me | [15:47] |
| mercutio | i wanted to play with kvm on arch :(
but when zvols and loopback file systems don't like me it makes it hard... maybe i should just do it on another host i wanted to play with the serial stuff you know you have too many computers when you misplace a whole computer | [15:48] |
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| mercutio | hmm my first ssd failure | [17:56] |
| staticsafe | o/ | [17:56] |
| mercutio | it's m4 reconditioned drive, died within an hour of usage
i found my computer, :) did pxe install, all went well | [17:57] |
| staticsafe | reconditioned, you bought a used drive? | [17:57] |
| mercutio | yeah
it had uptime of 13 hours | [17:57] |
| staticsafe | that is always a terrible idea | [17:57] |
| mercutio | and a smart test.
http://pastebin.com/eD3UXTZJ cos i thought it could be plugged into sata2 port... | [17:57] |
| m0unds | i wouldn't do it for consumer stuff, but i've deployed hundreds of refurb disks (warranty replacements) that worked well enough | [17:58] |
| mercutio | well they were $50 for 256gb | [17:59] |
| m0unds | only one immediate failure out of probably 200
yeah, that's worth the gamble i think | [17:59] |
| mercutio | so i figured it may be good for test network
i was thinking about sticking two in and doing raid. but i've only got 3x256, and 3x128 it was going really quickly still i'm trying to figure out if there's a way to make it go again there's a uefi pxe4 boot before the bios pxe4 boot and that seems to be trying to network boot first, so i may be able to get linux up i dunno why uefi wasn't booting and bios was, i dunno how uefi pxe works, maybe need a different file? dhcp-boot=grubnetx64.efi.signed apparently that's what you do no menu but it sees my file systems, weird | [17:59] |
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| bah i think it's bios issue because it had dual gpt/bios partitions and was booting in legacy mode
why it got the crc error i have no idea though and why it locks up when it gets confused... | [18:24] | |
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| mercutio | hmm kvm has a new faster disk i/o than normal virtio | [22:03] |
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| mercutio | so compiling custom kernel improveds kvm network performnace a little
but using a bigger mtu makes way more difference | [23:42] |
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