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grody: i still use USB drives to transfer large quantities of data
brycec: What about station wagons full of USB drives?
grody: fastest link i have is 200mbps.. and thats just two switches being trunked
brycec: Think of the bandwidth...
mercutio: usb 3.1 is coming out
grody: i say i dont transfer lots of data over my lan, media server and general whoringbox has sent 1.9TB and received 960GB in 30 days
mercutio: heh
time for gige :/
grody: but then again that thing gets hit up like a bint
ya it has the card, but im such a cheap ass i cant find a decent gige switch for under £100
i mean, there are some under that price, but they suck
even my archaid allied telesyn commtrend puts some of them to shame (for features)
archaic*
on a plus note, i found why my lappie goes nuts booting uefi aware *nix - any resolutions other than gfxmode text or 1024x768 dont work, and most are using 640x480 :/
phlux: woohoo, done with the morning workout and getting ready routine in time to watch some Seinfeld!
Got up a 0345 to get a head start
grody: ooh that reminds me, nearly gym-o-clock
phlux: I was getting my sweat on at 0400
I love doing it first thing in the morning to get it out of the way
grody: heheh, i normally hit my gym at 2am
plus nobody aboutt
phlux: Although, I'm examining a vessel today, and my shoulders feel like jelly atm
true that
Right now I'm trying Sean T's T25 program
I had a lot of success with P90X a few years ago, so I want to see what T25 is all about
If I don't get what I want, I'll go back to being a 4AM gym rat
No time for Seinfeld if I do that, though! :(
grody: i dont really do much else than a light cardio and general weights
mercutio: i dunno why phlux woudl want to get up so early
grody: not aiming to do much other than keep a breath and minimmize the old ale belly
phlux: grody: aye, I have to stay in some sort of shape for my job. Weigh-ins and PT tests and whatnot
grody: ooh joy
mercutio, i hate daytime hours - i always try and get work that is at night
why i ♥ americans so much
4am is best time of the day imo
phlux: I tried the "just focus on cardio" bit, but I got to a point where I was smoking the mile and a half, but struggling on pullups and pushups
Granted, I'm only required to do 1 pullup, but you look like a little manchild when all of the females in your group are busting out 10 and you only manage 1 haha
That's grounds for endless ridicule in the .mil
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
grody: lol
there is this one chick who works out at 1am, not a lot to look at - but damn can she benchpress and run
not a muscley type either, quite petite.. not someone to expect to benchpress 100kg w/o breaking a sweat
i didn't know wether to cry or find another time to work out when i saw it
phlux: lol
I generally try not to compare myself to others, but I can't help it if I'm being completely showed up by a 120lb girl
mercutio: heh
phlux: mercutio: Do you ever sleep?!
mercutio: yeh i sleep
i'm in nz, so diff timezone :/
phlux: ooooooooooh
That explains it then
I thought you were American
mercutio: yeah if i was american i would be up late a lot :)
phlux: I used to be a night crawler
4 hours of sleep before work
but then we had a kid
I sleep whenever the hell I can in the afternoons
If I could sleep past 4AM, I would
but I have to keep this body for up_the_irons
else he'll ban me from #arpnetworks
I hope he doesn't have beep highlights
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
phlux: Because it's like 2AM his time
mercutio: heh, he might be up
but it's like 3 am now
they had daylight saving shift.
phlux: hmm
I thought he was 3 hours behind me
I must've been mistaken
Never been out to the west coast
mercutio: they were 3 hours ahead of me
phlux: I'm a gulf guy
mercutio: but now they're four.
cos of daylight savings.
i dunno if it started or stopped
phlux: which is fucking stupid btw
I hate the time change shit
mercutio: yeah it's annoying
i will change to standard time soon i think
yeah i'm changing "back" to standard time 5th april
phlux: Only Americans would think that you can take one foot from the top of a blanket, attach it to the bottom, and think they have a longer blanket.
Oh, and apparently New Zealand too
mercutio: yeah we have that annoying thing too
i start getting up earlier in winter
regardless
as i always start getting up later in winter
so i try to counterbalance ahead of time :)
phlux: aye
mercutio: it's not so bad in this city
where i used to live it would be colder in mornings y more
by
phlux: What sucks is I live about an hour from the city where I work
and I'm off of this huge lake up here
mercutio: is that on peak of off peak hour?
or
phlux: When I go outside at my house, it's 10 degrees F colder than in the city
Eh, takes me about 40 min off peak
mercutio: here higher places tend to be warmer
phlux: but I have to plan to be 10F warmer in the city
mercutio: shade makes a huge diff to temp
phlux: I think the issue here is I'm north of the lake
So all of the wind coming off of the water hits us over here
mercutio: i just always plan to be cold tbh
phlux: Whereas my base is west of the river
mercutio: it's esay to take off clothes
it's hard to put more on if you don't have the
phlux: YES
mercutio: and with jackets etc you can have them open
phlux: Thank you
My wife can not seem to grasp that concept
mercutio: heh sometimes you see a hot day here when it's been cold
and all the girls walk around hardly dressed
then afternoon comes and of course it's much colder :/
phlux: lol
we went to downtown New Orleans about a month ago, and it was around 75 when we left
She asked why I was bringing a jacket
Because I *knew* it was going to get cold that evening
She didn't believe me and froze
-: phlux shrugs
mercutio: heh
no foresight!
phlux: I carried around a jacket for an hour, then got to wear it.
mercutio: i used to not wear jackets when it was like 7c
so that's like 45f
but iw as younger :/]
phlux: screw that
that's bone chilling to me!
mercutio: it was pretty typcial warm winter evening wehre i used to live
it's a common minimum here now i think
in winter
phlux: it is generally pretty warm here
holy shit
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
phlux: I just learned something from Seinfeld
Plato invented the PLATOnic relationship
mind blown
I have got to go get an external drive this weekend
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mnathani_: anyone have an nginx config for running smokeping they can share?
grody: phlux, to store terrible puns like that on? :p
dne: mnathani_: I have, but maybe it's slightly unconventional - reverse proxy to starman that runs smokeping as a PSGI app
https://gist.github.com/dne/4d261fe4f9533a1f3701
BryceBot: Gist: "Nginx config for SmokePing (reverse proxy to Starman)"
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m0unds: these blips on kvr03 are driving me a little nuts, sometimes long enough to trigger monitoring alerts, sometimes long enough to just disconnect any open sessions i have
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brycec: mnathani_: http://sprunge.us/BVIh mine too if you're interested.
mnathani_: dne: thanks
brycec: thanks
brycec: what OS is your smokeping running on?
brycec: Debian Wheezy
(and my slaves are various others, but that's not relevant)
mnathani_: I am attempting to get it working on centos 6
brycec: I don't imagine much difference
mnathani_: I don't actually have a smokeping.cgi
brycec: nginx v 1.6.2
Did you install smokeping from source or a package?
mnathani_: from source
nginx-1.0.15-11
mike-burns: phlux: yes, but Plato's platonic relationships were rather different from today's.
mnathani_: I have /opt/smokeping/bin/smokeping_cgi
brycec: I installed from package. Also I may have given you the wrong spawn-cgi, one sec...
m0unds: up_the_irons: is something up w/kvr03? packet loss has been occurring pretty regularly for a few days now
brycec: (Well slightly different, but not appreciably different)
m0unds: not worth even men
ha. wrong chat window (couldn't tell because packet loss)
the other part of it went in the right window, haha
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mnathani_: brycec: did your smokeping package configure itself for use with nginx?
centos 6 has a package, but configures itself to use apache
brycec: Negative, I hand-configured it. but the cgi was in place
mercutio: mnathani_: centos makes smokeping harder
brycec: (and there's just the one package on Debian, it's not broken into pieces)
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mercutio: but anywy it's normal to use fastcgi ratehr than cgi
which is why it's .cgi
brycec: Running smokeping as bare CGI was sloooooooow
mercutio: because it has a really high startup overhead :/
brycec: it is right
brycec: you tyhink for light use it shouldn't matter
but i think it dns lookups every host or something
brycec: The poller does, yes
it adds a huge chunk of overhead
-: grody pets munin
grody: not as good as smokeping for latency etc.
but does a relatively good job
modular too, so easy adding graphs for just about anything that outputs daya
brycec: I run munin too. But it's a different tool for a different job :p
mnathani_: munin auto restarts services that go down right?
grody: i have munin doing ICMP/TCP timing/graphing, but yea, nowhere near as featureful as smokeping
brycec: Smokeping really shines when you have multiple slaves (on different networks/connections) monitoring hosts, as you can then see what's affected
mnathani_: that's monit
assuming you have monit configured to that :P
mercutio: munin is bloated too isn't it?
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
grody: i wouldn't say it was overkill, sure isn't a hog
it never even makes a dent in my resources
brycec: munin-node is pretty dang lightweight
but the graphing and alerting can be a hog
(which is why smart people use the cgi graphing)
mercutio: cool
the problem with smokeping is if you have dns lookups and internet failure you get blanks because it can't complete quick enough
i haven't thought of any nice solution to it yet - fping also does the dns lookups -
brycec: So don't use DNS lookups :P
Just feed it IP's
mercutio: brycec: that's what i was doing.
but for things like google it's better to use names.
brycec: Unless you're tracking something that regularly changes IP's, there's no reason
mercutio: it'd be ok having stale ip's..
brycec: mercutio: I'd argue that you want to ping a fixed point. Using name, Google could start rerouting traffic to a different DC, over different transit, etc and it's not useful.
mercutio: brycec: but google do that for normal traffic
grody: the joys of CDNs
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staticsafe: mercutio: https://nzrs.net.nz/content/dnssec-validation-spark-nz
mercutio: yeah i saw they were implementing that
i wonder if they're using unbound.
that company used to refuse to use open source software
they were using some weird commercial version of bind before i think
they also took a long long time to split from combined recursive/authorative dns, and had problems taking old domains out of their dns
so there were common problems with dns being wrong on them, but no-one else.
-: staticsafe nods
staticsafe: i run unbound at home
mercutio: did you read about that on nznog?
staticsafe: yeah
mercutio: they've been talking about a noc contact list for ages on there
it doesn't seem to be going anywhere
staticsafe: indeed
mercutio: my name is on there but not my phone number, so i don't mind
i'm paranoid about having phone numbers on the internet
it's scarier than email addresses.
staticsafe: my phone number is in my ARIN POC record
mercutio: yeh you have to don't you
staticsafe: since its a single proprietorship yeah
mercutio: as long as it goes to a work number that doesn't go directly to me i'm ok with it
staticsafe: not a corp
mercutio: hmm
yeah i have work phone numbers on my domains :)
m0unds: staticsafe: http://open.spotify.com/user/iso50/playlist/4IKS1mfouaWKxHmQMOa67O
dunno if you use spotify and/or saw that already
mercutio: static: did you enable dnssec?
staticsafe: mercutio: yeah
almost all of my own domains are signed
m0unds: yeah i use spotify a lot
mercutio: i'm using tinydns without even having tcp enabled :/
staticsafe: ew
mercutio: i thinking of switching to nsd
staticsafe: good choice
mercutio: but tinydns works well and is easy
staticsafe: i use BIND
mercutio: i've been using it for like 15 years :/
actually more like 13 years
staticsafe: i use unbound for recursive needs and BIND for authoritative
mercutio: bind to nsd is meant to be easy
staticsafe: unless you are dependent on BIND's auto DNSSEC signing magic :)
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
staticsafe: no BryceBot
brycec: BryceBot: no
BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'unless you are dependent on BIND's auto DNSSEC signing magic :)'
brycec: I highly recommend nsd
It's light, it's simple, it Just Works
And it's in base