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| grody | i still use USB drives to transfer large quantities of data | [02:55] |
| brycec | What about station wagons full of USB drives? | [02:56] |
| grody | fastest link i have is 200mbps.. and thats just two switches being trunked | [02:56] |
| brycec | Think of the bandwidth... | [02:56] |
| mercutio | usb 3.1 is coming out | [02:56] |
| grody | i say i dont transfer lots of data over my lan, media server and general whoringbox has sent 1.9TB and received 960GB in 30 days | [02:59] |
| mercutio | heh
time for gige :/ | [02:59] |
| grody | but then again that thing gets hit up like a bint
ya it has the card, but im such a cheap ass i cant find a decent gige switch for under £100 i mean, there are some under that price, but they suck even my archaid allied telesyn commtrend puts some of them to shame (for features) archaic* on a plus note, i found why my lappie goes nuts booting uefi aware *nix - any resolutions other than gfxmode text or 1024x768 dont work, and most are using 640x480 :/ | [02:59] |
| phlux | woohoo, done with the morning workout and getting ready routine in time to watch some Seinfeld!
Got up a 0345 to get a head start | [03:03] |
| grody | ooh that reminds me, nearly gym-o-clock | [03:03] |
| phlux | I was getting my sweat on at 0400
I love doing it first thing in the morning to get it out of the way | [03:03] |
| grody | heheh, i normally hit my gym at 2am
plus nobody aboutt | [03:04] |
| phlux | Although, I'm examining a vessel today, and my shoulders feel like jelly atm
true that Right now I'm trying Sean T's T25 program I had a lot of success with P90X a few years ago, so I want to see what T25 is all about If I don't get what I want, I'll go back to being a 4AM gym rat No time for Seinfeld if I do that, though! :( | [03:04] |
| grody | i dont really do much else than a light cardio and general weights | [03:05] |
| mercutio | i dunno why phlux woudl want to get up so early | [03:06] |
| grody | not aiming to do much other than keep a breath and minimmize the old ale belly | [03:06] |
| phlux | grody: aye, I have to stay in some sort of shape for my job. Weigh-ins and PT tests and whatnot | [03:06] |
| grody | ooh joy
mercutio, i hate daytime hours - i always try and get work that is at night why i ♥ americans so much 4am is best time of the day imo | [03:06] |
| phlux | I tried the "just focus on cardio" bit, but I got to a point where I was smoking the mile and a half, but struggling on pullups and pushups
Granted, I'm only required to do 1 pullup, but you look like a little manchild when all of the females in your group are busting out 10 and you only manage 1 haha That's grounds for endless ridicule in the .mil | [03:07] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [03:08] |
| grody | lol
there is this one chick who works out at 1am, not a lot to look at - but damn can she benchpress and run not a muscley type either, quite petite.. not someone to expect to benchpress 100kg w/o breaking a sweat i didn't know wether to cry or find another time to work out when i saw it | [03:09] |
| phlux | lol
I generally try not to compare myself to others, but I can't help it if I'm being completely showed up by a 120lb girl | [03:12] |
| mercutio | heh | [03:13] |
| phlux | mercutio: Do you ever sleep?! | [03:13] |
| mercutio | yeh i sleep
i'm in nz, so diff timezone :/ | [03:13] |
| phlux | ooooooooooh
That explains it then I thought you were American | [03:14] |
| mercutio | yeah if i was american i would be up late a lot :) | [03:14] |
| phlux | I used to be a night crawler
4 hours of sleep before work but then we had a kid I sleep whenever the hell I can in the afternoons If I could sleep past 4AM, I would but I have to keep this body for up_the_irons else he'll ban me from #arpnetworks I hope he doesn't have beep highlights | [03:15] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [03:17] |
| phlux | Because it's like 2AM his time | [03:17] |
| mercutio | heh, he might be up
but it's like 3 am now they had daylight saving shift. | [03:17] |
| phlux | hmm
I thought he was 3 hours behind me I must've been mistaken Never been out to the west coast | [03:18] |
| mercutio | they were 3 hours ahead of me | [03:18] |
| phlux | I'm a gulf guy | [03:19] |
| mercutio | but now they're four.
cos of daylight savings. i dunno if it started or stopped | [03:19] |
| phlux | which is fucking stupid btw
I hate the time change shit | [03:19] |
| mercutio | yeah it's annoying
i will change to standard time soon i think yeah i'm changing "back" to standard time 5th april | [03:19] |
| phlux | Only Americans would think that you can take one foot from the top of a blanket, attach it to the bottom, and think they have a longer blanket.
Oh, and apparently New Zealand too | [03:20] |
| mercutio | yeah we have that annoying thing too
i start getting up earlier in winter regardless as i always start getting up later in winter so i try to counterbalance ahead of time :) | [03:21] |
| phlux | aye | [03:21] |
| mercutio | it's not so bad in this city
where i used to live it would be colder in mornings y more by | [03:22] |
| phlux | What sucks is I live about an hour from the city where I work
and I'm off of this huge lake up here | [03:23] |
| mercutio | is that on peak of off peak hour?
or | [03:23] |
| phlux | When I go outside at my house, it's 10 degrees F colder than in the city
Eh, takes me about 40 min off peak | [03:23] |
| mercutio | here higher places tend to be warmer | [03:24] |
| phlux | but I have to plan to be 10F warmer in the city | [03:24] |
| mercutio | shade makes a huge diff to temp | [03:24] |
| phlux | I think the issue here is I'm north of the lake
So all of the wind coming off of the water hits us over here | [03:25] |
| mercutio | i just always plan to be cold tbh | [03:25] |
| phlux | Whereas my base is west of the river | [03:25] |
| mercutio | it's esay to take off clothes
it's hard to put more on if you don't have the | [03:25] |
| phlux | YES | [03:25] |
| mercutio | and with jackets etc you can have them open | [03:25] |
| phlux | Thank you
My wife can not seem to grasp that concept | [03:25] |
| mercutio | heh sometimes you see a hot day here when it's been cold
and all the girls walk around hardly dressed then afternoon comes and of course it's much colder :/ | [03:26] |
| phlux | lol
we went to downtown New Orleans about a month ago, and it was around 75 when we left She asked why I was bringing a jacket Because I *knew* it was going to get cold that evening She didn't believe me and froze phlux shrugs | [03:26] |
| mercutio | heh
no foresight! | [03:27] |
| phlux | I carried around a jacket for an hour, then got to wear it. | [03:27] |
| mercutio | i used to not wear jackets when it was like 7c
so that's like 45f but iw as younger :/] | [03:27] |
| phlux | screw that
that's bone chilling to me! | [03:28] |
| mercutio | it was pretty typcial warm winter evening wehre i used to live
it's a common minimum here now i think in winter | [03:28] |
| phlux | it is generally pretty warm here
holy shit | [03:29] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [03:30] |
| phlux | I just learned something from Seinfeld
Plato invented the PLATOnic relationship mind blown I have got to go get an external drive this weekend | [03:30] |
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| mnathani_ | anyone have an nginx config for running smokeping they can share? | [04:19] |
| grody | phlux, to store terrible puns like that on? :p | [04:25] |
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| dne | mnathani_: I have, but maybe it's slightly unconventional - reverse proxy to starman that runs smokeping as a PSGI app
https://gist.github.com/dne/4d261fe4f9533a1f3701 | [05:53] |
| BryceBot | Gist: "Nginx config for SmokePing (reverse proxy to Starman)" | [05:55] |
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| m0unds | these blips on kvr03 are driving me a little nuts, sometimes long enough to trigger monitoring alerts, sometimes long enough to just disconnect any open sessions i have | [07:00] |
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| brycec | mnathani_: http://sprunge.us/BVIh mine too if you're interested. | [09:33] |
| mnathani_ | dne: thanks
brycec: thanks | [09:43] |
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| brycec: what OS is your smokeping running on? | [09:59] | |
| brycec | Debian Wheezy
(and my slaves are various others, but that's not relevant) | [10:00] |
| mnathani_ | I am attempting to get it working on centos 6 | [10:00] |
| brycec | I don't imagine much difference | [10:00] |
| mnathani_ | I don't actually have a smokeping.cgi | [10:00] |
| brycec | nginx v 1.6.2
Did you install smokeping from source or a package? | [10:01] |
| mnathani_ | from source
nginx-1.0.15-11 | [10:01] |
| mike-burns | phlux: yes, but Plato's platonic relationships were rather different from today's. | [10:01] |
| mnathani_ | I have /opt/smokeping/bin/smokeping_cgi | [10:03] |
| brycec | I installed from package. Also I may have given you the wrong spawn-cgi, one sec... | [10:04] |
| m0unds | up_the_irons: is something up w/kvr03? packet loss has been occurring pretty regularly for a few days now | [10:04] |
| brycec | (Well slightly different, but not appreciably different) | [10:06] |
| m0unds | not worth even men
ha. wrong chat window (couldn't tell because packet loss) the other part of it went in the right window, haha | [10:15] |
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| mnathani_ | brycec: did your smokeping package configure itself for use with nginx?
centos 6 has a package, but configures itself to use apache | [13:31] |
| brycec | Negative, I hand-configured it. but the cgi was in place | [13:32] |
| mercutio | mnathani_: centos makes smokeping harder | [13:32] |
| brycec | (and there's just the one package on Debian, it's not broken into pieces) | [13:33] |
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| mercutio | but anywy it's normal to use fastcgi ratehr than cgi
which is why it's .cgi | [13:33] |
| brycec | Running smokeping as bare CGI was sloooooooow | [13:34] |
| mercutio | because it has a really high startup overhead :/
brycec: it is right brycec: you tyhink for light use it shouldn't matter but i think it dns lookups every host or something | [13:34] |
| brycec | The poller does, yes
it adds a huge chunk of overhead | [13:35] |
| grody | grody pets munin
not as good as smokeping for latency etc. but does a relatively good job modular too, so easy adding graphs for just about anything that outputs daya | [13:42] |
| brycec | I run munin too. But it's a different tool for a different job :p | [13:43] |
| mnathani_ | munin auto restarts services that go down right? | [13:43] |
| grody | i have munin doing ICMP/TCP timing/graphing, but yea, nowhere near as featureful as smokeping | [13:43] |
| brycec | Smokeping really shines when you have multiple slaves (on different networks/connections) monitoring hosts, as you can then see what's affected
mnathani_: that's monit assuming you have monit configured to that :P | [13:43] |
| mercutio | munin is bloated too isn't it? | [13:45] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [13:45] |
| grody | i wouldn't say it was overkill, sure isn't a hog
it never even makes a dent in my resources | [13:45] |
| brycec | munin-node is pretty dang lightweight
but the graphing and alerting can be a hog (which is why smart people use the cgi graphing) | [13:46] |
| mercutio | cool
the problem with smokeping is if you have dns lookups and internet failure you get blanks because it can't complete quick enough i haven't thought of any nice solution to it yet - fping also does the dns lookups - | [13:46] |
| brycec | So don't use DNS lookups :P
Just feed it IP's | [13:47] |
| mercutio | brycec: that's what i was doing.
but for things like google it's better to use names. | [13:47] |
| brycec | Unless you're tracking something that regularly changes IP's, there's no reason | [13:47] |
| mercutio | it'd be ok having stale ip's.. | [13:48] |
| brycec | mercutio: I'd argue that you want to ping a fixed point. Using name, Google could start rerouting traffic to a different DC, over different transit, etc and it's not useful. | [13:48] |
| mercutio | brycec: but google do that for normal traffic | [13:48] |
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| grody | the joys of CDNs | [14:21] |
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| staticsafe | mercutio: https://nzrs.net.nz/content/dnssec-validation-spark-nz | [17:32] |
| mercutio | yeah i saw they were implementing that
i wonder if they're using unbound. that company used to refuse to use open source software they were using some weird commercial version of bind before i think they also took a long long time to split from combined recursive/authorative dns, and had problems taking old domains out of their dns so there were common problems with dns being wrong on them, but no-one else. | [17:33] |
| staticsafe | staticsafe nods
i run unbound at home | [17:35] |
| mercutio | did you read about that on nznog? | [17:36] |
| staticsafe | yeah | [17:36] |
| mercutio | they've been talking about a noc contact list for ages on there
it doesn't seem to be going anywhere | [17:36] |
| staticsafe | indeed | [17:36] |
| mercutio | my name is on there but not my phone number, so i don't mind
i'm paranoid about having phone numbers on the internet it's scarier than email addresses. | [17:37] |
| staticsafe | my phone number is in my ARIN POC record | [17:37] |
| mercutio | yeh you have to don't you | [17:37] |
| staticsafe | since its a single proprietorship yeah | [17:38] |
| mercutio | as long as it goes to a work number that doesn't go directly to me i'm ok with it | [17:38] |
| staticsafe | not a corp | [17:38] |
| mercutio | hmm
yeah i have work phone numbers on my domains :) | [17:38] |
| m0unds | staticsafe: http://open.spotify.com/user/iso50/playlist/4IKS1mfouaWKxHmQMOa67O
dunno if you use spotify and/or saw that already | [17:42] |
| mercutio | static: did you enable dnssec? | [17:45] |
| staticsafe | mercutio: yeah
almost all of my own domains are signed m0unds: yeah i use spotify a lot | [17:50] |
| mercutio | i'm using tinydns without even having tcp enabled :/ | [17:53] |
| staticsafe | ew | [17:53] |
| mercutio | i thinking of switching to nsd | [17:53] |
| staticsafe | good choice | [17:53] |
| mercutio | but tinydns works well and is easy | [17:53] |
| staticsafe | i use BIND | [17:53] |
| mercutio | i've been using it for like 15 years :/
actually more like 13 years | [17:53] |
| staticsafe | i use unbound for recursive needs and BIND for authoritative | [17:54] |
| mercutio | bind to nsd is meant to be easy | [17:54] |
| staticsafe | unless you are dependent on BIND's auto DNSSEC signing magic :) | [17:58] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [17:58] |
| staticsafe | no BryceBot | [17:58] |
| brycec | BryceBot: no | [18:12] |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'unless you are dependent on BIND's auto DNSSEC signing magic :)' | [18:12] |
| brycec | I highly recommend nsd
It's light, it's simple, it Just Works And it's in base | [18:13] |
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